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#1 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 23:50:08


Okay, I see python3-pyqt4 in Synaptic. But I don't see pyqt4-dbus (or python3-pyqt4-dbus). So I did a search of "dbus" and I see that I have the following installed:


#2 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 22:52:03


So I tried to install pyqt4-dbus and pyqt4, and got this message:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package pyqt4

In the interest of completeness, I did not first uninstall hplip 16. Now I'm glad I didn't.

#3 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 20:41:42


It was downloaded from the hplip site. The file is Here are the pertinent parts. At some point, I get this:

Following dependencies are not installed. HPLIP will not work if all REQUIRED dependencies are not installed and some of the HPLIP features will not work if OPTIONAL dependencies are not installed.
Package-Name         Component            Required/Optional   
pyqt5-dbus           gui_qt5              OPTIONAL            
pyqt5                gui_qt5              REQUIRED  


I type "y" and press enter. Then a bit later I get this...

Running 'su -c "apt-get install --force-yes -ygtk2-engines-pixbuf" '
Please wait, this may take several minutes. . .
Running 'su -c "apt-get install --force-yes -y python-pyqt5" '
Please wait, this may take several minutes. . .
Running 'su -c "apt-get install --force-yes -y python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5" '
Please wait, this may take several minutes. . .
error: A required dependency 'pyqt4-dbus (PyQt 4 DBus - DBus Support for PyQt4)' is still missing.
error: A required dependency 'pyqt4 (PyQt 4- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))' is still missing.

Then a few seconds later, the terminal crashes and I'm still on hplip 3.16.11.

At this point, I'm just afraid to go on thinking that I might lose the printing function with all this fiddling around.

#4 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 19:45:45


Would I run apt install -f before or after trying to install HPLIP 3.19.5?

#5 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 19:29:54


Okay, I'm taking a shot in the dark, it possible to use Debian's backports?

I found this:

#6 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 17:57:17

golinux wrote:

Have you looked in ascii backports?  Might not need to upgrade to beowulf.

It is your spellchecker that is objecting to Devuan. Just add that word and the red squiggle will go away.

Looked in the backports (here; is this the right place?), and it only goes up to hplip version 3.18.12. According to the hplip site I need version 3.19.5. So am I SOL with using my scanner? Is there any other possible way to get it working??

Offtopic: Added "Devuan" to spellchecker. Thanks golinux.

#7 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 16:33:12


I guess the bottom line is that the version of hplip that comes with ascii, 3.16.11, is not compatible with HP 8025. I need to upgrade to version 3.19.5 according to the hplip website; but when I try, I get dependency errors. I thought that since I got the printing problem fixed by using CUPS only, the scanner would work that way also, but I guess I was wrong? The only thing I can think of is to move to Devuan Beowulf. How can I find out what version of hplip comes with Beowulf?

Offtopic: I just noticed that when typing "Devuan" when making a post, it gets a red squiggly underline as if it's misspelled. That's ironic considering that this is Devuan's forums.


Okay, so based on this, it looks like hplip 3.18.12 is the version on Debian 10. But according to this, the version on Debian 10.3 is hplip 3.20.5. So how do I know what version is available on Devuan Beowulf?

#8 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 13:56:01


Yes, I have hplip toolbox installed, but I can't get past the frist window because it isn't detecting my printer/scanner. I don't see, on any of the toolbox windows, anything that says "fax-printer."

When I open the toolbox, I first get this.

Then I click Setup Device... and I then get this.

I then click Next and get this.

There is no option on any of these windows for "fax-printer."

#9 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 12:26:47


In hplip I keep getting the message "No Installed HP Devices Found," just like I did when I couldn't get it to print. However, at the bottom of this window it says:

Note: Only devices installed with the hp: or hpfax: CUPS backend will appear in the HP Device Manager.

Does that have anything to do with the URI of the printer I mentioned above not starting with "hp:" but with "usb"?


Since posting the above, I tried installing and using Simple Scan. I got the same message, no scanner detected. Then, on another forum where I posted this problem, somebody mentioned I might try purging ippusbxd and replacing it with ipp-usb. So I looked them up, and ipp-usb isn't available in the repo, but ippusbxd is, and I noticed it was not installed. So I installed it and rebooted the computer and tried both Simple Scan again and Xsane and still no joy.

#10 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 01:23:30


In looking over the troubleshooting page that was linked to by Altoid, I don't understand this part:


For network scanning, the "hp:/net/..." URI must be configured in the CUPS queue for auto-discovery by OpenOffice and xsane. You can manually specify the URI with xsane using the following format:

xsane <"hpaio" device uri>

For example:

xsane hpaio:/net/PSC_750?ip=

(Where the CUPS installed device URI is: hp:/net/PSC_750?ip=, and the hp: was replaced with hpaio:)

I looked up the URI of the printer and it doesn't begin with hp:/net/, it begins with usb://HP. The whole thing is:


I replace some numbers with asterisks because it seemed like that was the serial number

#11 Re: Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-17 01:03:38


I successfully added myself to the scanner group, but Xsane still does not recognize the scanner. I wonder if trying Simple Scan would work; but being that both Simple Scan and Xsane are just GUIs for Sane, I'm thinking it won't make a difference.

#12 Other Issues » Xsane Image doesn't detect my scanner » 2020-10-16 19:09:02

Replies: 26

A few months ago I had to replace my HP 6660 printer with a new one. I got an HP Office Jet Pro 8025. For some reason, it wouldn't work with hplip, so I installed cups (system-config-printer) and it prints okay using that (here). Now just the other day, I noticed that Xsane Image scanner won't recognize it. Is this related to the fact that hplip didn't work with 8025? Does anyone know of a way I can get the scanner working in conjuction with my computer? Thanks.

#13 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox outdated » 2020-10-02 14:45:37


I am confused as to what browser is being used (and rejected). Is it Basilisk? Is it Firefox ESR 68.0? Please clue us in. If you're using Basilisk and getting this error, use a UA override. If you're using an old Firefox ESR, update to the current one, 78.3.1.

Mind telling us what bank this is?

#14 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-21 09:46:59


One reason against unlimited time for editing is that such editing, after following posts have been made, could possibly throw off the "flow" of the thread. What I mean is that such editing can make following posts appear nonsensical, etc. There's another forum I frequent where, once a following post is posted, one cannot go back and edit his/her post (the previous one). I think that's a good standard to follow.

#15 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-08-22 23:03:15

rayburn wrote:

I am used to using 'update-grub' and 'grub-install' commands on other distros, but that is not working in Miyo!

Shouldn't it be sudo update-grub?

#16 Re: Forum Feedback » Cannot search for "s6" » 2020-08-16 23:00:23


What you can do is s6 in your search engine of choice. Here's the results from DDG: … %2F&ia=web

#17 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Just bought HP 8025, not detected » 2020-07-19 02:18:17

Debuser2018 wrote:

Glad that it worked. It may be possible to use the proper 8020 *.ppd driver which may be part of hplip. I'm not sure how to do that.

I'll just stick to what's working. smile But I'm wondering now, can hplip be removed from my computer without affecting the printer?

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Just bought HP 8025, not detected » 2020-07-17 23:31:58

Debuser2018 wrote:

Another option is using CUPS. There is a gui tool system-config-printer. Try installing system-config-printer, system-config-printer-udev packages.

Much thanks, installing system-config-printer seems to have done the trick. I owe you one cold beer. smile
I will wait a day or two before marking this as solved.

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Just bought HP 8025, not detected » 2020-07-17 22:40:18

Debuser2018 wrote:

HPLIP db shows HP 8020 Officejet series printers are supported. May be you should run hp-setup with the printer connected to the Linux PC. It will work.

Unfortunately it doesn't. Any other suggestions?

[Is 8025 considered part of the 8020 series? I can't understand why it's not being detected.]

#20 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Just bought HP 8025, not detected » 2020-07-17 21:23:54

Replies: 7

I'm at a loss, this is the first time I had trouble with an hp printer. It's an Officejet Pro 8025 and hplip isn't detecting it. I am at a loss as to what to do next. Any suggestions?

Devuan 2.1
hplip 3.16.11
cups 2.2.1-8

#21 Other Issues » Mate (Caja) icon problem » 2020-07-05 21:43:24

Replies: 0

I have some old Real Player files, and the icons looked like the first screenshot. The top one is a .rm file, and Caja gave it the movie icon, even though it is only an audio file. The rest of the files are .ram, and Caja gave them the text file icon. So I thought that if maybe I assigned these types of files to be opened by SMPlayer (they weren't assigned to any app) that Caja would figure out to give them the same icon as other audio files (second screenshot), but it didn't. So I manually changed the four files to the eighth notes icon. My question is this: is there a way to tell Caja to assign the eighth notes icon to .rm and .ram files automatically? If I copy these files to any other location, they end up with the icons in the first screenshot. Thanks.



#22 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-06-26 12:43:42

golinux wrote:

Ron . . . have you read the Release Notes?

Thanks for the link.

#23 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-06-26 01:25:16

fsmithred wrote:

Ron, it sounds like you ran into the eudev bug.
Unplug and replug mouse and/or keyboard, then they'll work.

You might still have some problems after that, like no sound or no wireless, both due to kernel modules not getting loaded. All the problems go away if you stop and start eudev. (stop it and start it. restart won't fix it.)

Unplugging and replugging in the mouse and keyboard does fix that problem. But I couldn't get the sound to work. Maybe I didn't follow the instructions correctly? In any event, everything works just fine when loading the OS to RAM. So, as you wrote, I'm assuming I won't have these problems when I install the new Miyo.

#24 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-06-23 22:08:24


Hi Miyo. Sorry took long to reply. I have a question due to issues I had trying to run the new Miyo from the DVD. I'm wondering if my computer is too old for Devuan 3 or anything based on it. Here's why. First, for some reason I just couldn't get the computer to boot to the DVD. I never had a problem like this with earlier versions, or with other Linux OS's. I had to go into the bios and tell the computer to manually boot from the DVD (I never had to do that before). Okay, second, when I chose Live Session, it would boot up, but my keyboard and mouse wouldn't work. I tried 3 times at least, and waited long enough, but they just wouldn't work. Finally I booted to RAM (or whatever it's called) and then everything worked just fine. I guess since that worked, installing the OS shouldn't cause a problem on my computer, but of course after all this I'm a bit hesitant. What do you guys think?

Here's my computer's specs:

System:    Host: ron Kernel: 4.9.0-12-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.3.0) Desktop: MATE 1.16.2 (Gtk 3.22.11-1)
           Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux ascii
Machine:   Device: desktop System: ASUS product: All Series
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: H81M-C v: Rev X.0x BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3602 date: 03/26/2018
CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium G3220 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 11972
           clock speeds: max: 3000 MHz 1: 813 MHz 2: 800 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Desktop GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.0-12-amd64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 416.1GB (21.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sdb model: ST3160815AS size: 160.0GB
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: Crucial_CT256MX1 size: 256.1GB
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: ASUS DRW-24F1ST   b rev: 1.00 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
           Features: speed: 48x multisession: yes
           audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Partition: ID-1: / size: 234G used: 6.7G (3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info:      Processes: 144 Uptime: 1:00 Memory: 439.3/3826.3MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 6.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121) inxi: 2.3.5

#25 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-06-07 20:45:10


Just wondering, will you be uploading any new versions soon since 3.0 has become the stable release?

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