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#1 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » Yesterday 19:47:50

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:
golinux wrote:

This from https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages :
Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc, should NOT be used directly.

You are correct to bring attention to the point of never, ever adding sources from other distributions which may replace official Devuan packages. This is usually unnecessary and harmful. This point can not be overstated.

Exactly.  It needs to be stated over and over.

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

Hope that clears it up.

Mostly this discussion is about semantics which in documentation is more important than you might think.  wink

#2 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » Yesterday 15:06:22

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

I think golinux said somewhere on this forum that devuan is 98% pure debian. That means using packages built against a corresponding debian release is 98% likely to work, on average. Unless you get packages which are heavily systemd related.

Not exactly . . .

This from https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages :
Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc, should NOT be used directly.

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

If it doesn't work, you can always blame golinux for lulling you into a false sense of security with the 98/2 statistics. (jk) :-)

Your interpretation of what constitutes a Debian repository could lead to a Frankendevuan!  FWIW, debmultimedia has always been a risky adventure.  If you decide to go there check the package carefully and remember that you added a non-native package when the devuan version arrives.

#3 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-06 20:06:41

I think that may be a buster=stable beowulf=testing glitch and that things will normalize when we are also "stable" release.

#4 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-04-06 18:22:27

HoaS is an easy wind-up.  big_smile

Actually I suspect that this is the tip of the iceberg.

Used to be that the "wontfix" issues were listed on their stats page.  That went away a year or more ago.  No telling what's buried in there that will come to bite us.

#5 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-06 16:38:22

Yes,  That is correct.  Was the package you were looking for there?

This is a useful page for sources.list information.

#6 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-06 01:36:06

@Roger . . . Thanks for doing that.  One question . . . did you install the incompatible driver from the Devuan repos, Debian repos directly of from nVidia?  That might be a factor is why the old driver was not found.  I'm not quite sure where/what his script checks.  Or perhaps there was an instruction somewhere to remove the current driver before proceeding.  I really can't remember the process.  It was so long ago.

#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-05 18:50:59

"nvidea-driver"?  I don't think so:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … elease=any
0 results for "nvidea-driver" in any (in 14.763921ms)

Try "nvidia-driver" instead:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … elease=any
17 results for "nvidia-driver" in any (in 15.098441ms)

#8 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-04 22:10:10

kapqa wrote:

please don't forget to include pvr-iptvsimple for kodi *missing*

It appears to be in ascii and ceres.  Looks like that omission comes directly from debian as we have not forked that package.  Have you checked backports?

#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-03 01:36:58

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

golinux wrote:

... that package comes directly from Debian ...

Indeed ...
But Debian also means (in some way, methinks) systemd related.

LOL!  98% of Devuan is pure Debian.  These are the Debian packages banned in Devuan.

Altoid wrote:

As I always try to avoid installing anything from outside the Devuan repositories, I went to synaptic expecting to find it there, just like inxi.
I did not find it so I went looking for it at https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ and it had not been / was not there either.

This called my attention, which is why I asked.

I'll install it from HH's site but maybe (?) it could be added to the stable/backport repositories in the future?

If Debian had it, we would have it.  We only touch files with systemd issues.  If and when Debian offers it, then we will too.

Altoid wrote:

Thanks for your input.

A.

YVW

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-03 00:40:50

@Altoid . . . thanks for tracking that down.  I have always had great respect for HH and thank him for his contributions and  making that script compatible with Devuan.  You probably noticed that package comes directly from Debian - Origin: Debian.

#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-02 19:37:31

sgfxi at https://smxi.org/ will automate everything.  DISCLAIMER:  I've been using onboad graphics and nouveau for years but the sgfxi script used to work wonders.

#12 Re: Installation » [BUG] beowulf beta netinst. ISO does not configure locales or timezone » 2020-04-02 13:34:50

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Apologies if this is the wrong section — I couldn't find a "Bugs" sub-forum and reportbug wants a package name, which doesn't seem appropriate for problems with the ISO image.

Oh, but it is!

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-in … aster/docs

#13 Re: Installation » Issue with deb.devuan.org? » 2020-04-02 13:30:33

Marjorie wrote:

Onefang, thanks for the excellent clarification.

Sometime I just get a bit paranoid and maybe I should switch to a https mirror.

I used to use the more specific, if still http, gb.deb.devuan.org until that was deprecated and we were recommended to use deb.devuan.org.

Maybe a disclaimer in the documentation about its load-sharing round-robin nature would help.

Documentation covering all those points is (and has been) on the website, in the installer and now also stickied here:

Index
    » Documentation
    » Devuan package mirrors, deb.devuan.org, HTTPS, and mirror monitoring

#14 Re: Off-topic » Folding@home - You can help find a cure to COVID-19! » 2020-04-01 15:57:42

Considering the monied interests that "own" scientific research (perhaps the Gates Foundation is among them?), the "cure" is going to make a lot of people even richer because the "cure" will undoubtedly be patented.  I'd rather let nature do its thing than participate.  Note that I have never had a flu shot either.

#16 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-31 00:08:42

dev1fanboy aka chillfan is meticulous in his documentation so I'm sure there is a reason.  You could open an issue at https://git.devuan.org/devuan-doc/docum … dev1fanboy to ask him or send him an email via this forum.  He hasn't been here since early March.  Of course, someone else may know the answer.  Just not me.  tongue

#18 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-30 15:57:52

aus9 wrote:

Hi
I finally spotted but needed prompting this post
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925

as my removal of systemd stuff is on the beta iso I thought I would share the little I know here
And I am glad that link is a sticky too.

Happy to hear everything worked out for you.  smile

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Python3.8 / Testing? » 2020-03-28 22:41:48

Check devuan backports.  Do not install directly from Debian repos.

#20 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » gnome video app? » 2020-03-27 15:51:49

"Gnome Videos" is not a proper filename in Ubuntu or Debian.  What might it be?  If it is available in Debian we should have it in Devuan unless it is on the banned package list http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt   Have you checked https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ to see if it is there?

#21 Re: Off-topic » youtube parody of Downfall movie .....Devuan is born » 2020-03-25 23:05:24

It seems outdated 6 years after the fact.  Time to move on, perhaps by actually contributing something useful?

#22 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-25 18:22:59

Dutch_Master wrote:

Just for my understanding: if one already has Ascii installed, Beowulf is now ready/stable enough to be upgraded to?

Yes. https://beta.devuan.org/os/install#upgr … to-beowulf

#23 Re: Installation » How is IBM support? » 2020-03-23 20:15:17

We are happy to have made you happy.

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