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#1 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » Today 00:10:03

franko wrote:

What to do in the meantime? How to keep it going while the systemd "virus" spreads?

Well, talking and wishing and philosophizing won't get the job done.   That takes committed volunteers willing to do the work.  Unfortunately, end users and outsiders have lots of ideas/demands but rarely lift a finger to make them a reality.

#2 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » Yesterday 17:12:30

@cynwulf . . . You are and have always been welcome here but the drama is a bit of a buzzkill.

* edit: Just noticed my 1500th post which of course is dedicated to cynwulf  smile *

#3 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2019-02-20 17:16:03

@Panopticon . . . you have undertaken a Sisyphean task.  This thread could continue with 100 posts of repetitive arguments, nothing will change and I guarantee you will never get the last word.  As tempting as the bait is, the only off button is silence.

#4 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » gray font antialiasing in xfce » 2019-02-20 16:13:27

I'm out of ideas.  Maybe take your question to the Xfce forum. They are friendly and knowledgeable and have solved issues for me more than once.

#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » gray font antialiasing in xfce » 2019-02-20 01:02:39

Did you try reducing the saturation on your screen a bit?

#6 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » gray font antialiasing in xfce » 2019-02-19 23:33:29

CTAKAH wrote:

Do you have grayscale or rgb antialiasing when none order selected?

All the options are rgb.  But setting it to "none" avoids hints of color here.

#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » gray font antialiasing in xfce » 2019-02-19 22:06:39

I have never seen that on my screen but I do see some bleeding on screenshots with strong contrasting colors.  In Settings > Appearance > Fonts, I have Enable anti-aliasing checked, Hinting: slight and Sub-pixel order none.  Default font is set to Open Sans Semibold.  But then I have a really nice Dell IPS monitor.  Maybe reducing the saturation on your screen would help and reduce brightness a bit - I work at 70%.

#8 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2019-02-19 15:55:02

cynwulf wrote:

You should get some more sleep and spend less time on forums like this one.

If you actually used Devuan or contributed anything substantial my ears might perk up because then you'd have a point of reference from which to critique. I think you just come here when you're bored or having a bad day .

Footnote: cynwulf and I have a long and mostly amicable history so I know who I am chiding.  wink

#10 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-18 02:25:20

MiyoLinux wrote:

The bad news: still no Consolekit.

These packages may or may not be relevant but . . .  I leave it to you to sort . . .

#11 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2019-02-17 18:09:16

Have you tried adjusting the acceleration/sensitivity of your mouse in Mouse and Touchpad from the main Applications menu?

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Raspberry Pi 3B+ network not working at boot with Ascii » 2019-02-16 22:24:29

Have you seen this thread?  There is a solution. Can't remember whether it's in that thread or elsewhere on this forum.  Sorry . . . not willing to go treasure hunting atm.  wink

#13 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-16 21:01:49

MiyoLinux wrote:'s simply a basic YAD script...that I'm going to have to change since consolekit apparently will no longer be available beginning in beowulf. neutral  tongue

Isn't there consolekit2.  There has been recent discussion. and also there are consolekit related packages in beowulf:

You should probably be on the ML.

#14 Re: Devuan » As an extensive user, GIMP 2.10.x is unusable. 2.8.x is great though! » 2019-02-16 20:45:00

@Miyo . . . maybe you can put together a gimp team to keep the older version compatible with newer Devuan releases.  I do not use gimp often - still do a lot of work on PS7 LOLOL!!!!  But I do use it for specific tasks on occasion - like converting png to xpm - and would not be happy to see those functions disappear.

#15 Re: Devuan » As an extensive user, GIMP 2.10.x is unusable. 2.8.x is great though! » 2019-02-16 20:32:55

This is not good news.  It might be easy enough to just keep an older version in the repos if the dependencies are compatible.  If not, the task of  sorting things out would fall to impacted users because the Devuan devs have their hands full and just don't have time to fix applications in user-space that take a wrong turn.  Would you be willing to maintain and package Gimp 2.8.x for beowulf and future Devuan releases?

#16 Re: News & Announcements » Reporting bugs in devuan » 2019-02-13 23:04:01

Did you not see this in KatolaZ post above yours?

Also, the only way to submit bug reports to is via email, so you need a working email account.

Try this method.

#17 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 18:00:20

yeti wrote:

Maybe the last unavoidable systemd packages can be renamed to fake-$originalname_*.deb to make clear that they are harmless? Via provides $originalname dependices could be satisfied.

Would that possibly reduce the iterating questions about systemd pieces still present in Devuan?

Sadly, there are just not enough hands on deck to do the repackaging and long term maintainence.  Any volunteers out there?

(golinux hears the sound of silence)

#18 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 05:24:25

robert-e wrote:

Yes, I did first thing.  That is why I deleted the (other) systemd folders and files; they should not have mattered to the os.  However when the systemd folder in /run got recreated on reboot, I got kind of concerned.  Moreso, when I could not chattr +i that empty folder to immutable.  I know I can just reinstall and pay more attention, but there is little learning in that. wink

I wish we had a workshop of magic elves to remove those unnecessary systemd files but alas . . .

Thanks for all your trouble for me.

Best regards,

No problem.  No trouble.  smile  Really nice to see you back!

#19 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 04:01:39

Happy to see you made it here!  You might want to take a look at this post.

#20 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-02-12 22:12:17

There are a lot of LOLOLs going on here.  We're a happy bunch . . .  big_smile

#21 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-02-12 19:40:08

Here's an update . . . I FINALLY found a darker color that worked to hilight selected items.  It's only taken about 4 months.  LOLOL!  I revisited that option after the lighter version morphed a bit and I was unable to find an icon color that worked in the file manager as well as the desktop.  That's because color is fickle and can be perceived quite differently depending what is nearby.   It can drive one to madness . . . no kidding.  big_smile


#22 Re: News & Announcements » Jaromil presentation FOSDEM 2019 » 2019-02-12 19:24:22

jaromil is one of the VUA who decided to fork Devuan in 2014 and CEO of the non-profit that sponsors Devuan.  He is a well-known public figure in the EU in many capacities.

This fairly recent video summarizes a few of the projects that dyne is working on.

#23 Re: Other Issues » Wireguard (VPN) Kernel Modul » 2019-02-11 15:41:18

The best place for this question would be #devuan-arm on freenode.  parazyd doesn't read this forum.

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Installation of XFCE + i3wm with ALSA » 2019-02-10 15:32:27

fr0st wrote:

U don't use the Debian installer on the LiveISO I assume?

Right.  The live disks use the refractainstaller.  There is also a cli version.  Launch refractainstaller as root.

#25 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Miyo-i3 Releases » 2019-02-09 22:34:30

Wonderful!  You always make me smile.  big_smile

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