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#1 Re: Installation » [bluetooth]# scan on No default controller available, not hci0, why ?? » Today 03:41:22

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#2 Re: Other Issues » Backported Liquorix kernels » Yesterday 21:03:49

scutterflux wrote:

Thanks for pointing that out.

That's fine, my instruction won't cause a problem if all he wants is kernels, and pins low priority.

Also MXLinux uses sysv init not systemd, and keeping systemd-sysv pinned at -1 should help, also if you keep MX repositories at 100 they rarely will pull anything in unless specified, dependencies will come from Devuan repositories as a priority, and you can pin lower if you want, but I've not had anything odd pulled even at 250.

I don't know, I'm not that stubborn I guess as long as openrc or sysv init keeps working I'll continue to be happy...  But I can understand wanting to avoiding systemd creep.

Yes, it's the creep that is the real issue with systemd.  If it was just an init, there would have been no need for Devuan.

Is using elogind from devuan repositories a faux paux?

It is quite intentional.

Oh also you could add this line to /etc/apt/preferences.d/avoid-systemd

Package: systemd-sysv
Pin: origin ""
Pin-Priority: -1

Just FYI, packages coming from Debian via amprolla3 are banned but packages coming directly from Debian are not filtered.  That's why we advise against using Debian repos directly.

#3 Re: Devuan » A devuan manual, why not? » Yesterday 19:35:08

@ Basati,

Thank you for putting thought into something that would be very useful for Devuan.  Yes, documentation is needed and has been discussed extensively at times.  msi (also msiism) has been leading the official documentation.  A wiki is already in process here - but currently there has not been much progress.  There is also #devuan-wiki on freenode.   Feel free to add your voice and energy to help push this forward.

#4 Re: Other Issues » Backported Liquorix kernels » Yesterday 18:26:45

@scutterflux . . . I hope you are aware that MXLinux is not free of systemd.  Their packages may contain systemd 'hooks' that could be incompatible with Devuan and even try to pull in systemd components (which should be banned here).

#5 Re: Other Issues » apt-cache search: returns null while populated using Debian sources » 2018-07-16 17:44:08

That bug was supposedly fixed in amprolla 3 some time ago.  From earlier today:

<golinux> parazyd: KatolaZ: A report of inconsistency between debian and devuan presentation of apt-cache and apt-search here:
<KatolaZ> golinux: this is known
<golinux> I thought we fixed that.
<KatolaZ> I thought we did, indeed

Maybe hash this out on #devuan at freenode where those more familiar with amprolla hang out.

Ah, I see you just posted a bug.  Excellent.

#6 Re: Installation » kiosk system for online banking with devuan ascii » 2018-07-15 21:16:40

nogeek wrote:

Hi. =-)
Finally I am a member yay!!1! ;-)

Indeed you are!  Nice to see you here.  Wish I could help with your question but alas, no.

#7 Re: Other Issues » apt-cache search: returns null while populated using Debian sources » 2018-07-15 20:31:44

Ottavio wrote:
golinux wrote:

Riiiight . . . pulled in by amprolla and available via a redirect to the devuan repos . . .  smile

OK! What does it mean?   Debian packages pulled in to devuan this way should be identical.   However some data may be truncated to limit bandwidth.  That's way beyond my skillset.

The reason for my post is: Is there anything broken in Devuan's package (and cache) management?

There's always room for improvement.  Just a few weeks ago we discovered that amprolla was wrongfully banning a package for systemd dependencies.  If you think you have found a bug, please report it to

#8 Re: Other Issues » apt-cache search: returns null while populated using Debian sources » 2018-07-15 19:31:27

Riiiight . . . pulled in by amprolla and available via a redirect to the devuan repos . . .  smile

#11 Re: Off-topic » Does anybody run (or has thought of running) NetBSD pkgsrc on Devuan? » 2018-07-12 01:20:03

How minimal also depends on your choice of iso.   The minimal-live would be very basic.

#12 Re: DIY » Compiling the latest version of wine » 2018-07-06 21:44:44

Jessie = Jessie
ASCII = Stretch
Beowulf = Buster
Ceres = Sid

#13 Re: Off-topic » Survey: Impact of Microsoft acquirement of GitHub » 2018-07-02 15:08:56

Not here.   Try it on the Ubuntu groupies.  LOL!

#14 Re: Other Issues » update problem » 2018-06-30 15:09:38

dxrobertson wrote:

Here is my sources.list:
And very important as @devuser stated; edit the file in linux , not windows nor mac.

You also should use a TEXT editor, not a word processor that leaves undesirable cruft.

#16 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » basic_config » 2018-06-29 20:54:48

No.  That repo contains Devuan specific or tweaked Debian packages that are being tested.   Those packages will eventually move to merged.

#17 Re: Installation » Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it? » 2018-06-29 00:45:18

I think you might be the first.  Would be curious to see what happens.  Ubuntu pkgs may break Devuan even if clean of systemd.  If some are dependent on systemd . . . well, you can imagine . . .  Heed ivanovnegro's advice for backup.

#18 Re: Installation » raid+encryption+lvm » 2018-06-28 17:56:44

bash64 wrote:

i am trying the minimal live installer.
how do i start the installer from the terminal?

Try … taller.txt

#19 Re: Installation » A problem with the sound in kde on beowufl, i'm migrate to beowulf » 2018-06-28 17:52:30

basati wrote:


I have to apologize for my behavior.

No need to apologize.  smile  Some have upgraded without issues.  YMMV.

I believe that until now I had not interfered, that the rhythm of devuan is different from what I was used to.

What is clear is that in devuan the LAST thing that matters is the rhythm.

We are hoping that we will be able to catch up to the Debian release cycle by the time that Buster is stable.

I have to say that I feel like a hacktivist again, thanks to devuan. I have been and I stopped being, you all know why, I think.


I have to admit that my anxiety comes from managing 5 email accounts and kmail 5.12 has introduced the components. A real wonder.

I'm seeing this with a package search: [beowulf] kmail-17.12.3-1 not kmail 5.12

big thanks

You're very welcome!

#20 Re: Other Issues » Firestarter » 2018-06-28 14:28:48

I joined the firestarter mail list back is 2007.  Used it on Squeeze.  It worked well but has been dead for a very, very long time.

#21 Re: Installation » A problem with the sound in kde on beowufl, i'm migrate to beowulf » 2018-06-28 14:25:59

Beowulf is not ready for primetime yet.  Especially on the Desktop.

#23 Re: Installation » chromebook solved: » 2018-06-27 22:11:11

@1init . . . Welcome to the forum now that you were finally able to register.    That is a very useful first post!  Persistence always wins the day with Linux, doesn't it.  LOL!

I only have one suggestion.  Above the input box, there is a list of tags available to help format posts.  Your presentation would benefit from the use of code tags like this:

sudo xzcat devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_chromeacer.img.xz | sudo dd of=REPLACEME bs=2M

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Problem with package mate-power-manager » 2018-06-27 22:02:53

sgage wrote:

I was delighted to see that mate-power-manager was finally available for ascii. Installed it to find that there is no option for 'suspend' for power button or suspend button action. pm-suspend works fine - why doesn't mate-power-manager off it as an option? Every night I have to type 'sudo pm-suspend' at the command line to put my computer to sleep...

Bash history is good for executing repetitive commands (up arrow).  You might also create an alias for that.  Best would be to fix the bug though . . .

#25 Re: Devuan Derivatives » STAR: 2.0 Kirk, is on the way! » 2018-06-27 05:06:21

Ozi wrote:

hey golinux  yes Spock then possibly Uhura!

Keep it going ozi!
(golinux gets all nostalgic)
We're working on a Dev1Voyager blog atm.  An homage to the first Star Trek movie and NASA . . .

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