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#1 Re: Off-topic » (privacy) surveillance state? » Yesterday 03:25:51

@dice . . . the surveillance state has been here for centuries in different forms.  It is well explained by Eben Moglen at re:publica 2012 in Berlin.  Almost 10 years later, the hole has gotten even deeper.

#3 Re: Off-topic » mozilla, we need more deplatforming... » 2021-01-10 18:12:34

"Freedom" is not external.  It is internal. We all have the freedom to choose actions that are driven by selfish motivations or hatred or deluded fantasies or to choose actions that are motivated by generosity or compassion or the reality that no one is doing anything to us.  In the end, we are doing it to ourselves with every action either verbal, physical or mental.  This requires clear attention and accepting responsibility for the consequences.  IOW, license is not freedom.  It is indulgence and bondage to behaviors that in the end cause grief to oneself and others.

#5 Re: Off-topic » Greetings from New Member » 2021-01-07 06:34:53

Welcome to the forum!  FYI . . . next time try Torvalds . . .  Murdoch shouldn't have worked.

#6 Re: Off-topic » (privacy) surveillance state? » 2021-01-06 03:44:18

sgage wrote:

Golinux FTW! That's really what it boils down to. And no amount of 'tech' is going to change it.

Actually, tech makes it worse because it magnifies and accelerates human stupidity.

#7 Re: Off-topic » (privacy) surveillance state? » 2021-01-06 00:30:48

All empires decay into excess and decadence then are replaced by something "new" which eventually ends  in a similar way.  Why?  Because humans are deeply flawed and do not learn from experience or history.  They just react and make up stories to justify those actions thinking that they are actually important in the grand scheme of things.

#9 Re: Freedom Hacks » Admin, please delete. » 2020-12-23 22:23:13

I have a custom action to launch Thunar as root in a Beowulf VB pkexec thunar %F.  Same can be done to open a specific file with a text editor.  Pluma FTW!  And in the panel I use synaptic-pkexec.  Might not work in ceres though . . .

Disclaimer . . . I have mostly used that instance of beowulf to theme for chimaera so not given it hard daily use.

#10 Re: Off-topic » Info » AppImage security and alternatives » 2020-12-23 14:52:35

These pre-packaged all-in-one apps are an aberration and insult to Linux users.  Methinks they are for handicapped Winblows refugees who don't know what they're doing.

#11 Re: Off-topic » Info » AppImage security and alternatives » 2020-12-22 21:45:13

Or better yet, just don't use "appimage" at all.  I suspect that there aren't many devuan users who would touch it.

#12 Re: Installation » [Ceres] Install mega packages » 2020-12-11 20:36:04

Since the Stone Age, we have certainly found more efficient ways to destroy the ecosphere and each other.  In fact, that goal has been the driving force of our species' history.  All the comfort and toys are a distraction from more important things which are (mostly) ignored.  All in all, humans make incredibly bad decisions most of the time.

#13 Re: Other Issues » gnome compile issue » 2020-12-09 15:41:26

dzhigit wrote:

It is getting harder and harder to like GNOME and not like systemd sad

Isn't lockin the whole point of GNOME/systemd?  I could see that coming 6 years ago and abandoned ship . . .

#14 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » E233: cannot open display » 2020-12-09 15:37:39

It all comes down to chemistry/attitude and action/reaction. These elements cannot be quantified but are an organic part of human interaction. As I said a few posts up, you get what you ask for (even though you didn't think you asked for it).  Perhaps there might be a lesson there if it can be heard . . .

#15 Re: Installation » [Ceres] Install mega packages » 2020-12-08 20:09:48

Indeed, freedom includes the right to make good and bad decisions.  To succeed or fail.  IOW it includes the right to make brilliant and/or stupid choices as well.  I suppose it can be argued whether collective knowledge from past experience of others is right or wrong or restrictive of freedom.  So yes, you have the right to stick a screwdriver into a live electrical socket. Whether that is "freedom" is debatable.

#16 Re: Installation » [Ceres] Install mega packages » 2020-12-07 17:45:49

It is not advised to get packages directly from Debian.  When you download via Debian repos there is a chance that you will get caught later by updating a package with a newer version that has been banned in Devuan.  That could have "unintended consequences".  Your choice to take that risk, of course . . .

What site is not accessible?  pkginfo or

#17 Re: Installation » [Ceres] Install mega packages » 2020-12-07 16:58:19

If Debian has it and it is not on Devuan's banned package list, Devuan repos will provide that package.  That's what "merged" does. … q=libraw19

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to make devuan boot with Secure Boot enabled the way antiX does it » 2020-12-03 22:46:54

Ulysses_ wrote:

Alright. How do you feel about this?

Instead of answering the question that you know the answer to better than anyone

Can't really answer your question without context which starts with a citation for who posted it.  Please include that when you quote in the future.

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to make devuan boot with Secure Boot enabled the way antiX does it » 2020-12-02 20:51:46

@Ulysses_ . . . no one here is interested in your political rants.  If you want to continue posting here, please leave them at the door.

#20 Re: Other Issues » Does apt switch to mirrors automatically when performing an upgrade? » 2020-12-02 16:09:57

They do know how to dance in Bulgaria!!

Some iso mirror providers also host a package mirror but not all.  And some package mirrors may not provide iso mirrors.  To lazy to diff the two lists.

#21 Re: Other Issues » Does apt switch to mirrors automatically when performing an upgrade? » 2020-12-02 14:49:27

Devuan has a round-robin of package mirrors:

iso mirrors and package repository mirrors are two different things.  wink

#22 Re: Devuan » Banned packages » 2020-11-27 17:27:14

This may be due to some backend changes in the pkginfo function which is still somewhat of a WIP.

#24 Re: Devuan » How do I get bind-utils? » 2020-11-24 18:38:06

Use the -debian operator to eliminate debian.  Or -ubuntu etc.  I do that all the time.

#25 Re: DIY » Make Devuan Ceres ISO » 2020-11-18 15:07:32

refracta tools - installer and snapshot - are in the Devuan repos

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