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Areulos

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Installation doesn't work

Hi

For Daedalus 5.0.1 the UEFI installation doesn't work on my PC. The problem is with package. Looks like UEFI configuration doesn't compatible with mine.

Both DVD and USB have the problem.

I tried desktop 4Gb.

The USB is configured correctly, it is visible in UEFI and loads, but there's no continuation (just black screen). DVD doesn't go at all.

Are there possibility to fix the UEFI loader? Or kind of solution?

ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Installation doesn't work

What does "and loads" mean?

Is "secure boot" is turned off?

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

"What does "and loads" mean?"

There is black screen continues and no abortion.

"Is "secure boot" is turned off?"

Yes.

Other UEFI USBs work well.

Daedalus 5.0.0 desktop DVD and Daedalus 5.0.0 live usb for UEFI works well.

Last edited by Areulos (2025-07-21 09:41:09)

ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Installation doesn't work

I'm confused; what do you do leading to a black screen? Can you please try to describe all that happens after power on... what happens on the computer and what do you do (if anything). Is it just that you power it on but it stays with a black screen? (Though that wouldn't seem to indicate that something "loads").

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Insert USB-stick (UEFI, devuan 5.0.1 desktop) -- Reboot -- POST beep -- UEFI logo -- Enter UEFI -- Configure for USB partition as boot priority -- Save and restart -- POST beep -- UEFI logo -- black screen, nothing happens next (monitor is activated, no going sleep, but it's just having black).

I think it is loading because there's no UEFI reboot as usually happens when there's nothing to boot from, so looks like there is something.

Anyway, other UEFI USB sticks loads well, Devuan 5.0.1 Desktop doesn't, no via USB nor DVD.

ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Thanks. Peculiar. Which brand of computer is it? I mean, which hardware, especially which CPU.

How did you copy the Devuan installer image to the USB stick?

rolfie

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Re: Installation doesn't work

-- Enter UEFI -- Configure for USB partition as boot priority --

This is a residue from the old legacy bioses. The procedure to place the USB stick as first boot option is no more required on UEFI bioses. There you go and use the boot override. You PC should have a key to call up the boot menu (on my ASUS MBs its F8, on many others its F12 ... read the manual), and there you select the stick with the uefi prefix.

Give it a try, maybe this is the culprit.

Last edited by rolfie (2025-07-22 10:31:24)

g4sra

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Re: Installation doesn't work

@rolfie experience has taught me that when it comes down to UEFI the wonderful thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. This varies at the BIOS version level not just the model. Even totally ridiculous ideas should not be dismissed until they have been attempted to make something boot that wont.

@r2, I had issues with Devuan 5.0.1 USB not booting on a Dell Laptop (it should have at least booted to the installer, 5.0.0 did).
I discovered that on booting USB the internal storage would be disabled. This it turns out is a Dell 'Security Feature' in my particular BIOS and the only way around it (untested) is to pre-load the USB's UEFI keys and enable 'Secure Boot'. So at that point I gave up jumping through Dell hoops, removed the NVMe and installed Devuan via a VM, booted fine when reinstalled in the laptop.

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

@ralph.ronnquist

It is AMD.

Via 'parted' I create table and partition, set it as bootable; formating it after with mkfs.fat; mount both USB and ISO and just copy folders and files from ISO with 'cp'.

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

@rolfie

I have legacy BIOS possibility with my MB firmware, so both options together with UEFI.

With F12 the result will be same.

ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Interesting. That method should indeed allow the EFI boot loader to start so you should have come to that initial bootloader menu. One reason for not getting there could be that the UEFI bios is particular about the EFI partition.

I think the easiest way for you would be that you go back and simply use 'cp' to copy the ISO onto the stick device, like so

cp iso /dev/sdc

if /dev/sdc is the stick device.
Then try with that.

The point is that your method will lead to failure later on anyhow, even if the bootloader gets started.

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Thank you.

So I mount ISO and then use general path instead of pointing on every directory of it?

cp /mnt/iso /dev/sdc

right?

Last edited by Areulos (2025-07-22 15:32:56)

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Is it possible for developers to organize UEFI on 5.0.1 just the way it on 5.0.0?

Last edited by Areulos (2025-07-22 15:34:00)

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Desktop version not load from UEFI USB for any of releases: Chimaera, Daedalus 5.0.0.

rolfie

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Re: Installation doesn't work

So I mount ISO and then use general path instead of pointing on every directory of it?

No. Do NOT mount the iso. I assume you have the iso as a file in your Download directory. You cp the file, or dd it to the USB.

You do:

# cd /home/$USER/Download
# cp iso.file.spec /dev/sdx

BTW: you could also use the netinstall. The installers on the netinstall the CD and the DVD are exactly the same. The amount of SW coming with the media are different.

Last edited by rolfie (2025-07-22 21:46:14)

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Thank you. I'll try.

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

The method brought no results.

g4sra

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Re: Installation doesn't work

rolfie cannot see what you did or their results.
You will need to post more information for rolfie to be able to help you.

What commands did you actually enter ?
What was the result of those commands ?

How did you reboot your PC ?
What boot options did you select ?
What did the PC report ?

I suggest you try again, this time making *exact* notes most of which you can cut and paste, then after rebooting post them here on the forum.

Areulos

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Re: Installation doesn't work

I've already did all of that.

g4sra

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Re: Installation doesn't work

Like this...

[g4sra@localhost:OS]$ sudo dmesg

[13934.095824] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[13934.095826] usb 1-3: Product: TransMemory
[13934.095829] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
[13934.095831] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: C6EEBF9D8207CDB11D4F171F
[13934.119872] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[13934.120010] scsi host8: usb-storage 1-3:1.0
[13934.120319] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[13934.123274] usbcore: registered new interface driver uas
[13935.159151] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  TransMemory      1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
[13935.159600] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0
[13935.159809] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] 15155200 512-byte logical blocks: (7.76 GB/7.23 GiB)
[13935.159996] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off

[g4sra@localhost:OS]$ ls -l ~/ISO/Devuan/Daedalus/devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_netinstall.iso
-rw-rw-r-- 1 g4sra g4sra 501022720 Dec 27  2024 /home/g4sra/ISO/Devuan/Daedalus/devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_netinstall.iso

[g4sra@localhost:OS]$ sudo cp /home/g4sra/ISO/Devuan/Daedalus/devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_netinstall.iso  /dev/sdd

ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Installation doesn't work

"Brought no result" is perhaps not too expressive.

Does this mean that you copied the ISO file onto the device as suggested? Could you please show the exact command you used when doing that?

Did you try booting in legacy mode as well as UEFI, and in both cases the console display stayed off?

It is quite peculiar (and unusual) that your system has such a hard time booting. You never told which CPU it is. And the machine assembly as a whole, is that a certain "brand" or is it your own assembly? What's the brand of the USB stick?