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Mousepad couldn't be dragged, resized or lowered despite using the default key bindings in a cwm window manager (Alt being the Meta key on my system), being Alt+LeftClick+drag, Alt+MiddleClick+dragcorner and Alt+RightClick, respectively:
$ man cwm
[...]
The default mouse bindings are:
M-M1 Move current window.
CM-M1 Toggle group membership of current window.
M-M2 Resize current window
M-M3 Lower current window.
CMS-M3 Hide current window.
[...]
Background: My Devuan system (on a Raspberry pi 400 arm64 architecture, in case it is relevant) was recently updated with bash instructions from Chimaera to Daedalus, and the display manager was purged to replace it with the system's interactive text login using an .xinitrc file (plus .bash_profile, .profile, and a soft link from .xsession to .xinitrc). It then automatically launches a cwm window manager and ungoogled-chromium browser among other applications in Xorg. Full disclosure: There may still be some unresolved error messages (see earlier messages), and I am still unsure whether one of Daedalus' offered improvements was automatically implemented - whether Xorg now runs as a user instead, or as root. Hopefully this was not botched in my upgrade, and no security risk as it stands! The system is up-to-date and, though I uninstalled mousepad last night, the current version, according to apt search mousepad, is "mousepad/stable 0.5.10-2 arm64".
I thought it strange when I was not able to drag Mousepad quite a while ago but didn't get concerned enough until last night. Other windows responded well to all three bindings; windows included xfce4-terminal, calligrasheets, librewolf and ungoogled-chromium. I wonder whether someone remotely was able to commandeer my Mousepad to launch inside some kind of vm, with its window borders not visible, and disabling the dragging/resizing of that windows hides any vm(?)'s window borders, so as to eavesdrop. I had been setting some changes in my .cwmrc file that I figured might be interfering.
Mousepad (c.3Mb with dependencies) was therefore purged; featherpad, a "Lightweight Qt5 plain-text editor" was installed instead at c.500kb (with any dependencies), and it appears to offer roughly the same main functions.
Perhaps as a related issue, on a previous Devuan (Chimaera) installation, Mousepad wouldn't launch visibly when right-clicking on various .txt files one at a time in spacefm and when selecting the default 'Mousepad'; it would only launch from a right-click menu when selecting the 'Editor' choice, if my memory is correct.
Note that I don't bother with window grouping or tiling, so no such settings are knowingly amended in .cwmrc.
The only somewhat relevant .cwmrc custom bindings might be:-
# "Sometimes it's necessary to unbind keys first [...]", acc. to https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/fo7fou/cwm_default_terminal_cwmrc_applications/fldqiw8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
unbind-key all
# Window-maximize seems to toggle windows
# BUT THIS SETTING HAS SINCE BEEN COMMENTED OUT, AS DECIDED IT WAS UNNEEDED
bind-mouse M-3 window-maximize
# TO PREVENT POINTER FROM WARPING ON THE fbpanel LAUNCHER/SYSTEMS BAR/TASK BAR -
# THE WINDOWNAME FROM xprop FOR fbpanel IS panel SO "ignore fbpanel" DOES NOT WORK
ignore panel
If it could be of use, I could reinstall Mousepad temporarily to, say, give you its xprop description or terminal output when launched from a terminal in case the artefacts would present again or in case the reports are relevant. The only somewhat relevant .config object perhaps was a Mousepad folder, but I decided not to keep it, sorry (there was no .config/mousepad folder before purging Mousepad, if i recall correctly). I may have synced the Mousepad folder from lingering previous installation backups. I am tired of signing up to different websites so, sorry, but I am not inclined to register to file this as a bug report. If it is of interest or can be replicated, and if this sounds like something worse than a .cwmrc misconfiguration, perhaps an interested Devuan party could take this up.
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I have now noticed, days later, that Calligrasheets also cannot be dragged, resized or lowered despite using the default key bindings either. It was also launched from .xinitrc with a file as an argument while firejailed e.g.:
/usr/bin/firejail --net=none /usr/bin/calligrasheets '/home/someusername/Documents/Somefile.ods' &
Note that mousepad had also been launched from .xinitrc, but with a check for the latest version of three files, each having slightly different suffixes before the .txt extension:
/usr/bin/mousepad -- "$(ls -t /home/$USER/Documents/SomeFolder/SomeFileVersion*.txt | head -n 1)" "$(ls -t /home/$USER/Downloads/SomeFolder/SomeOtherFileVersion*.txt | head -n 1)" "$(ls -t /home/$USER/Downloads//SomeFolder/SomeOtherFileVersion*.txt | head -n 1)" &
calligra* packages have been now been purged accordingly for now, to be on the safe side, although it is a great suite. I do not see a way to update the thread title to include this suite.
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Maybe my system got infected, perhaps exploiting, again presumably, a vulnerability elsewhere: fbpanel was preserved from my original Chimaera installation, persisting through the dist upgrade to Daedalus despite it no longer being offered by Daedalus nor its Debian equivalent, Bookworm, I noticed today. Maybe the following points to its imminent removal from the repository: https://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/ … 00131.html
See the reason given in a link there: "Python2 becomes end-of-live upstream, and Debian aims to remove Python2 from the distribution [...]".
It is not maintained upstream: https://github.com/aanatoly/fbpanel .
I suspected fbpanel to be compromised more recently, as its menu icons stopped displaying, even after restarting it or firejailing it, etc. Fbpanel has now been purged and replaced with tint2. Mousepad and the Calligra suite may be again retried at a later date: perhaps they might not be culprits, although mousepad and calligrasheets were not launched from fbpanel when their artefacts manifested: they were launched from .xinitrc.
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The artefacts recently were found to be due to these applications apparently starting in full screen mode; the solution was to strike the F11 to toggle full screen off, as that thankfully appears to be a relevant key-binding in common for all these applications, although calligrasheets had to be toyed with a bit: the calligra suite had been later reinstalled, and I think F11 would only respond by closing the calligra worksheet and applying F11 with the calligra startup application that appeared.
Note that Featherpad also had developed similar artefacts, turned off also with F11: Featherpad could not be dragged or resized with the default mouse bindings; the default 'lower window' binding had since been modified by choice to 'maximize window', and that wouldn't respond either.
These artefacts had persisted even when blackbox, a different window manager, was installed, including (a) with Mousepad when it was reinstalled; and (b) more recently, with xfce4-terminal.
That 'full screen' suspicion and F11 solution were proposed in 2013 for a similar situation with some LXDE application(s). One argument brought up for applications possibly starting in full screen mode was that it might be related somehow to some new theme(s) being applied. In my case, some themes from Devuan's official repos had indeed been installed earlier and, for what it's worth, later applied with an excellent LXDE theme manager: lxappearance.
Therefore, I could not identify any vulnerability, and this thread has been closed although, in case it could be 'remotely' relevant, a 'dlm' error was also noted on logout, but I can't find it in any current /var/log file. Why would there be need for a 'distributed lock manager' on my standalone pc? How could a lone dlm package - libdlm3, a 'Distributed Lock Manager library' - have appeared on my system? After a bit of research, I decided to remove it without any noticeable knock-on effect, except the error occasionally was noted to persist on logout.
Last edited by ExposeGlobalistsMadness (2023-09-22 23:00:57)
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Did you honestly expect anyone to read that wall of barely-coherent rant, or were you just thinking aloud to yourself?
This board some days
Ed. No, wait, it's most days. Guess that's why I don't bother trying to be helpful here, far too much crazy for my taste.
Last edited by steve_v (2023-09-23 01:02:50)
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. Four times is Official GNOME Policy.
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One amendment: To toggle full screen mode for Calligrasheets, it is Ctr+F11. I thought that there was some challenge with Calligra's full screen! Lol Have a good evening!
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