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#1 2023-01-09 01:07:07

webman
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Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

Hello!
In the beginning, I was a fan of systemd, even I haven't know to use it, because
I never understood systemv (init-system).
Now, on debian (for several years), I am facing on this and that problems, which seem
to be systemd related.
I have a KVM guest with several accounts.
Astoundingly, each of this have processes running after boot and
independent, if they are logged in or not.
This is problematic, because for some users, I use a homedir which
resides on cifs/smb. On the host, these are zfs filesystems which I want
to snapshot and I wish, that all processes are terminated. For the moment,
I kill them und force unmount by root.

The question is, how this behaves on Devuan.

Thanks so far,
Manfred

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#2 2023-01-09 15:29:49

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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

I think that user process behaviour is dependent on the KillUserProcesses option in logind.conf so it can be disabled under both systemd (/etc/systemd/logind.conf) or sysvinit/elogind (/etc/elongind/logind.conf) by setting that to yes.

So I think the behaviour would be the same under both init systems. Perhaps try it and report back? I might be wrong.


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#3 2023-01-09 15:49:34

webman
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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

Hi,

thank you.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I think that user process behaviour is dependent on the KillUserProcesses option in logind.conf so it can be disabled under both systemd (/etc/systemd/logind.conf) or sysvinit/elogind (/etc/elongind/logind.conf) by setting that to yes.

So I think the behaviour would be the same under both init systems. Perhaps try it and report back? I might be wrong.

I've already read and tried this (using the "exclude root" option) - but with different success, so the question
came up for me. The remaining processes are something like gfvs.*

You implicitely said, under systemV/etc this is not the case?

I have a lot of computers, am a linux-noob (nearly), countless VMs (kvm+lxc)
and would not be able to migrate that all fast, but were probably unable to work
with different systems.

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#4 2023-01-09 15:58:46

Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

webman wrote:

You implicitely said, under systemV/etc this is not the case?

No.


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#5 2023-01-10 01:43:42

andyprough
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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

Wouldn't you just find the service associated with the process and un-check that service's annoying run-levels with 'sudo sysv-rc-conf'?

Maybe I'm being dense and this has nothing to do with services. But this is usually one of the first places I look to get misbehaving autostart processes under control.

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#6 2023-01-10 06:47:49

Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

Or just purge that GVFS shite.


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#7 2023-01-10 08:12:45

webman
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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

Hallo!

Thanks, but there is nothing like this on my debian!
I just beginning from scratch using devuan and even there, there is nothing like this.
On devuan, gvfs is installed, but not active running.

Manfred

andyprough wrote:

Wouldn't you just find the service associated with the process and un-check that service's annoying run-levels with 'sudo sysv-rc-conf'?

Maybe I'm being dense and this has nothing to do with services. But this is usually one of the first places I look to get misbehaving autostart processes under control.

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#8 2023-01-10 08:15:09

webman
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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

Hi!

Comes to my mind, but must learn about it first.
Probably I need it on that debian-vm.

Manfred

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Or just purge that GVFS shite.

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#9 2023-01-18 18:37:42

mweishaar
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Re: Question on mount/unmout on non-systemd systems like Devuan

webman wrote:

Hallo!

Thanks, but there is nothing like this on my debian!
I just beginning from scratch using devuan and even there, there is nothing like this.
On devuan, gvfs is installed, but not active running.

Manfred

andyprough wrote:

Wouldn't you just find the service associated with the process and un-check that service's annoying run-levels with 'sudo sysv-rc-conf'?

Maybe I'm being dense and this has nothing to do with services. But this is usually one of the first places I look to get misbehaving autostart processes under control.

sudo apt install sysv-rc-conf maybe?

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