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#1 2022-01-16 10:49:24

kapqa
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(chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

Hello ,

i noticed that when installting packages with terminal commands,

there is a delay of some sort like

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  avahi-autoipd
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 58.2 kB of archives.
After this operation, 120 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

then i click "Enter"

0%working

appears and after 5-10 seconds it actually starts the job of downloading and installing.

Internet speed should be ok (around 130Mbit) , cable also i think.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Last edited by kapqa (2022-01-16 10:49:59)

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#2 2022-01-16 11:21:52

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

Can we see the content of /etc/nsswitch.conf & /etc/resolv.conf and also the output of

dig $(awk 'NR==1 {print $2}' /etc/apt/sources.list)

I presume you're using deb.devuan.org in your sources?


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#3 2022-01-16 16:23:20

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

dig $(awk 'NR==1 {print $2}' /etc/apt/sources.list)

; <<>> DiG 9.16.22-Debian <<>> deb
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6456
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;deb.				IN	A

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
;; WHEN: Sun Jan 16 17:22:23 CET 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 21
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free>

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#4 2022-01-16 16:25:46

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

# /etc/nsswitch.conf
#
# Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality.
# If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try:
# `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.

passwd:         files
group:          files
shadow:         files
gshadow:        files

hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
networks:       files

protocols:      db files
services:       db files
ethers:         db files
rpc:            db files

netgroup:       nis

# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
# 127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver.
# run "resolvectl status" to see details about the actual nameservers.

nameserver 192.168.1.1
search home-life.hub

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#5 2022-01-16 17:56:23

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

kapqa wrote:
dig $(awk 'NR==1 {print $2}' /etc/apt/sources.list)

; <<>> DiG 9.16.22-Debian <<>> deb

Oops, sorry. I presume there's a commented line at the top of sources.list?

Let's try again:

dig deb.devuan.org

Run the command a few times to see if the Query time value changes significantly.

Do you still experience the delay if you replace http://deb.devuan.org/merged with a specific mirror?

Do you experience a delay when opening any web pages in the browser for the first time?

kapqa wrote:
# /etc/nsswitch.conf
[...]
hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns

Does removing the mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] statement fix the delay?

Why do you need Avahi anyway?


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#6 2022-01-17 13:30:16

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

dig deb.devuan.org

; <<>> DiG 9.16.22-Debian <<>> deb.devuan.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6263
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 10, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;deb.devuan.org.			IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
deb.devuan.org.		86400	IN	CNAME	deb.rr.devuan.org.
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	131.188.12.211
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	5.9.122.185
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	195.85.215.180
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	46.4.50.2
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	185.38.15.81
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	95.216.15.86
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	54.36.142.183
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	185.203.114.135
deb.rr.devuan.org.	1800	IN	A	130.225.254.116

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
rr.devuan.org.		1800	IN	NS	ns4.devuan.dev.
rr.devuan.org.		1800	IN	NS	ns5.devuan.dev.
rr.devuan.org.		1800	IN	NS	ns6.devuan.dev.
rr.devuan.org.		1800	IN	NS	ns3.devuan.dev.
rr.devuan.org.		1800	IN	NS	ns2.devuan.dev.

;; Query time: 655 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Jan 17 14:22:15 CET 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 308

after the first

dig deb.devuan.org

,

afterwards mostly 0msec , to 7msec.

I dont know if need Avahi, took it only because as sample at hand.

opening webpages most of the times is reasonably speedy.

removing

mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return]

would not make any noticeable difference, if any, it took even longer to initiate the install of packages.

Really odd behaviour, the computer should be capable of being fast enough for simple tasks.

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#7 2022-01-17 17:32:36

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

So did you try replacing deb.devuan.org with a specific mirror? Perhaps the round-robin thingy is broken.


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#8 2022-01-17 19:46:13

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

it does sound like resolver issue.. you could try with a faster dns server instead of 192.168.1.1 (lan router), to see if that makes things go faster..
eg. pick one from https://opennic.org and add it in the top of /etc/resolv.conf and retry apt...
---
another guess, perhaps you have something like etckeeper or apt-listchanges installed?
packages like that hook into apt and could be slowing it.. (?) it's just a guess, but you could check/post what's in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d .

ls -la /etc/apt/apt.conf.d

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#9 2022-01-18 13:00:06

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

@xinomilo , thanks i tried this opennic by just inserting

ns7.de.dns.opennic.glue

ontop of /etc/resolv.conf , but apt still takes around 10 seconds to initiate. (less time if smaller packages, but no regularitiy, time varies consistently)

Tried also with aptitude, seems even slower.

ls -la /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
total 36
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 22 21:23 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Jan 16 17:24 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   82 Nov 27 16:52 00CDMountPoint
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   40 Nov 27 16:52 00trustcdrom
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  630 Jun 21  2021 01autoremove
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  122 Dec 22 21:23 01autoremove-kernels
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  307 Mar 28  2021 20listchanges
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1040 Dec 22  2020 20packagekit
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  182 Jun 10  2021 70debconf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   35 Dec 10 19:48 88libdvdcss-pkg -> /usr/lib/libdvd-pkg/88libdvdcss-pkg

@Head can i just use one of those HTTPS? or which

https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan

Thanks!

Last edited by kapqa (2022-01-18 13:02:39)

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#10 2022-01-18 14:43:40

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

I provided a link to the list in post #5.

Here it is again in non-obfuscated form:

https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt

EDIT: and yes, aptitude is hellaslow. Don't use it if you're in a hurry.

EDIT2:

kapqa wrote:

i tried this opennic by just inserting

ns7.de.dns.opennic.glue

ontop of /etc/resolv.conf

That won't work — the format for the line would be

nameserver 94.247.43.254

But I don't think it would make much difference anyway because your ISP's DNS resolution isn't terribly slow and it appears to be caching requests.

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#11 2022-01-18 18:36:08

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

@Head_on_a_Stick,

Great, thanks!

solution1 > changing to other devuan server in /etc/apt/sources.list did not achieve a betterment.
solution2> changing the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf seems to really make the process go fast, but it would ultimately fail to download the packages?

sudo apt-get install tuxguitar
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  ca-certificates-java default-jre default-jre-headless java-common
  libactivation-java libatk-wrapper-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni
  libbcmail-java libbcpkix-java libbcprov-java libitext-java libmail-java
  libswt-cairo-gtk-4-jni libswt-gtk-4-java libswt-gtk-4-jni
  libswt-webkit-gtk-4-jni openjdk-11-jre openjdk-11-jre-headless oss-compat
  tuxguitar-alsa tuxguitar-oss
Suggested packages:
  libbcmail-java-doc libbcpkix-java-doc libbcprov-java-doc libmail-java-doc
  fonts-ipafont-gothic fonts-ipafont-mincho fonts-wqy-microhei
  | fonts-wqy-zenhei fonts-indic osspd lilypond tuxguitar-jsa timidity
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ca-certificates-java default-jre default-jre-headless java-common
  libactivation-java libatk-wrapper-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni
  libbcmail-java libbcpkix-java libbcprov-java libitext-java libmail-java
  libswt-cairo-gtk-4-jni libswt-gtk-4-java libswt-gtk-4-jni
  libswt-webkit-gtk-4-jni openjdk-11-jre openjdk-11-jre-headless oss-compat
  tuxguitar tuxguitar-alsa tuxguitar-oss
0 upgraded, 22 newly installed, 0 to remove and 16 not upgraded.
Need to get 48.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 190 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Ign:1 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 java-common all 0.72
Err:1 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 java-common all 0.72
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:2 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 openjdk-11-jre-headless amd64 11.0.13+8-1~deb11u1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:3 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 default-jre-headless amd64 2:1.11-72
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:4 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 ca-certificates-java all 20190909
Err:4 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 ca-certificates-java all 20190909
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:5 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 openjdk-11-jre amd64 11.0.13+8-1~deb11u1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:6 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 default-jre amd64 2:1.11-72
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:7 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libactivation-java all 1.2.0-2
Err:7 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libactivation-java all 1.2.0-2
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:8 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libatk-wrapper-java all 0.38.0-2+deb11u1
Err:8 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libatk-wrapper-java all 0.38.0-2+deb11u1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:9 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libatk-wrapper-java-jni amd64 0.38.0-2+deb11u1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:10 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libbcprov-java all 1.68-2
Err:10 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libbcprov-java all 1.68-2
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:11 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libbcpkix-java all 1.68-2
Err:11 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libbcpkix-java all 1.68-2
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:12 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libmail-java all 1.6.5-1
Err:12 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libmail-java all 1.6.5-1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:13 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libbcmail-java all 1.68-2
Err:13 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libbcmail-java all 1.68-2
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:14 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libitext-java all 2.1.7-12
Err:14 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libitext-java all 2.1.7-12
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:15 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libswt-gtk-4-jni amd64 4.17.0-1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:16 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libswt-cairo-gtk-4-jni amd64 4.17.0-1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:17 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libswt-gtk-4-java amd64 4.17.0-1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:18 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 libswt-webkit-gtk-4-jni amd64 4.17.0-1
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:19 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 oss-compat amd64 7
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Ign:20 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 tuxguitar all 1.2-25
Err:20 http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 tuxguitar all 1.2-25
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:21 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 tuxguitar-alsa amd64 1.2-25
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
Err:22 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera/main amd64 tuxguitar-oss amd64 1.2-25
  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/j/java-common/java-common_0.72_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/o/openjdk-11/openjdk-11-jre-headless_11.0.13%2b8-1%7edeb11u1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/j/java-common/default-jre-headless_1.11-72_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/c/ca-certificates-java/ca-certificates-java_20190909_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/o/openjdk-11/openjdk-11-jre_11.0.13%2b8-1%7edeb11u1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/j/java-common/default-jre_1.11-72_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/j/javabeans-activation-framework/libactivation-java_1.2.0-2_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/j/java-atk-wrapper/libatk-wrapper-java_0.38.0-2%2bdeb11u1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/j/java-atk-wrapper/libatk-wrapper-java-jni_0.38.0-2%2bdeb11u1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/b/bouncycastle/libbcprov-java_1.68-2_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/b/bouncycastle/libbcpkix-java_1.68-2_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/j/javamail/libmail-java_1.6.5-1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/b/bouncycastle/libbcmail-java_1.68-2_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libi/libitext-java/libitext-java_2.1.7-12_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/swt4-gtk/libswt-gtk-4-jni_4.17.0-1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/swt4-gtk/libswt-cairo-gtk-4-jni_4.17.0-1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/swt4-gtk/libswt-gtk-4-java_4.17.0-1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/swt4-gtk/libswt-webkit-gtk-4-jni_4.17.0-1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/o/oss-compat/oss-compat_7_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch http://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/t/tuxguitar/tuxguitar_1.2-25_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/t/tuxguitar/tuxguitar-alsa_1.2-25_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/t/tuxguitar/tuxguitar-oss_1.2-25_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 141.24.220.40 443]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
sudo apt-get update
Hit:4 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease                  
Hit:1 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera InRelease   
Hit:2 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera-security InRelease
Hit:3 https://dist-mirror.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/devuan/merged chimaera-updates InRelease
Reading package lists... Done

Last edited by kapqa (2022-01-18 18:37:09)

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#12 2022-01-18 19:50:52

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

this looks like an error with particular mirror repository. reproducible error here.
so, pick another mirror from the list, `apt update` and retry... works fine here using a different mirror.

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#13 2022-01-19 20:05:55

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

@xinomilo, wow, big thanks ! using another mirrored fixed.

don§t know what changed, but with this "openNic" the download-things was superfast!

was thinking there is something wrong with my computer or cable , as i noticed also on ubuntu 18.04 LTS a big lag .

I moved the Computer into another room, and the cable is maybe 10 - meter long, and a little bit "twisted" here and there, but everything seems ok , otherwise, just those terminal commands taking way too long for my experience.
for now this seems a great "fix", but still am a bit baffled because of those delays in normal mode.

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#14 2022-01-19 22:21:13

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

resolver delay is usually caused by ISP nameservers (resolvers).
some routers support editing nameservers so maybe you have luck changing default(ISP) nameservers to other public resolvers, and have your whole lan/devices, resolving(+loading) web quicker..

within your/any OS you can change nameservers and use  eg. opennic (as you did on /etc/resolv.conf) or by editing settings in network managers connection.( usually ip settings -> nameservers -> enter your own manually...
another way is to install a local resolver (like unbound), which can also cache domain queries and make them faster...(search around guides on how to set local resolvers like unbound, plenty available online. can also help if needed).

kind-of-a-disclaimer : you would probably get same results when using any other public resolver eg. google, cloudflare, etc. opennic is a volunteer project not tied to internet mafias (ICANN or MAFIA). so, privacy friendly for sure... but anyway, that was my personal suggestion, you can use whatever resolver you like instead.

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#15 2022-01-22 09:21:56

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

checked again, ubuntu seems fine, but it has different entry in /etc/resolv.conf

nameserver 127.0.0.53
options edns0
search home-life.hub

whereas Devuan shows (on the same Computer)

nameserver 192.168.1.1
search home-life.hub

EDIT: it seems that after reboot, the OpenNIC setting is deleted; but today, the downloads seem fine, in terminal it takes only around/under 1 second, to initate the download/installing process. It is still noticeably faster on Ubuntu, though.

Last edited by kapqa (2022-01-22 09:27:42)

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#16 2022-01-22 12:08:24

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

kapqa wrote:

checked again, ubuntu seems fine, but it has different entry in /etc/resolv.conf

nameserver 127.0.0.53
options edns0
search home-life.hub

So Ubuntu is using systemd-resolved then.

kapqa wrote:

it seems that after reboot, the OpenNIC setting is deleted

If you read (or share) the entire file it probably explains that the content is managed by another program — usually either NetworkManager or resolvconf — and that any edits will be over-ridden. You should either make your edits to the configuration of the controlling program or stop that program from managing resolv.conf.

kapqa wrote:

It is still noticeably faster on Ubuntu, though.

Try adding the options edns0 line as well. The round robin might be able to take advantage of the DNS extensions mandated by RFC 2671.


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#17 2022-01-24 13:45:42

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
kapqa wrote:

it seems that after reboot, the OpenNIC setting is deleted

/etc/resolv.conf states

# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
# 127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver.
# run "resolvectl status" to see details about the actual nameservers.

however,

 resolvectl status
-bash: resolvectl: command not found

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#18 2022-01-24 17:40:13

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Re: (chimaera) 5 - 10 seconds delay when installing packages terminal

Yeah, resolvectl(1) is part of the systemd conglomerate so it would be worrying if it was found.

You can stop resolvconf(8) from managing /etc/resolv.conf by adding this line /etc/resolvconf.conf:

resolvconf=NO

See https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf for more on this.

EDIT: in case you're wondering what you're missing:

$ resolvectl
Global
           Protocols: -LLMNR -mDNS +DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=yes/supported
    resolv.conf mode: stub
  Current DNS Server: 9.9.9.10#dns.quad9.net
Fallback DNS Servers: 1.1.1.1#cloudflare-dns.com 9.9.9.10#dns.quad9.net 8.8.8.8#dns.google
                      2606:4700:4700::1111#cloudflare-dns.com 2620:fe::10#dns.quad9.net
                      2001:4860:4860::8888#dns.google

Link 2 (enp2s0f0)
Current Scopes: none
     Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS +DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=yes/supported

Link 3 (enp5s0)
Current Scopes: none
     Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS +DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=yes/supported

Link 4 (wlan0)
Current Scopes: none
     Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS +DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=yes/supported
$

As you can see it's a really nice tool: a caching resolver with full support for DNSSEC, LLMNR, mDNS and DNS over TLS.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-01-24 19:29:20)


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