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#26 2021-06-13 16:09:42

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Re: low memory installation

For De??an it's best to use ~/.xsession instead of ~/.xinitrc because this ensures a consistent desktop environment (see startx(1) for more on this) and also that it can then be selected from a desktop manager as the "default session".

See also https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession

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#27 2021-06-14 10:13:42

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Re: low memory installation

dice wrote:
zapper wrote:
andyprough wrote:

There are two kinds of people in this world:
1. Those who know how to use DWM
2.

Heh,  I used dwm a few times briefly, but its just too dull for my tastes.  I am not sure how to configure autostarting apps among other things.

Dwm aka is a pile of sludge. tongue

Also, its not even that much lighter in cpu usage/ram than i3-wm and jwm. 

My two cents.

wink

I can tell you are only shit stirring so ill only bite a little bit.

You can patch dwm to autostart apps, depending on your setup and whether you are using login manager. Login manager i think you can use xsessionrc in debian.

https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/autostart/ <-- wrong patch

https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/cool_autostart/ < --this one

dwm is complicated for many as they dont understand how to use it, which is probably your issue zapper.

I am shit stirring? Well...  my bad, I just don't get DWM's appeal is all, I wanted people to explain it to me.

It confuses me greatly.

But thank you for your info! Quick question though, which uses more cpu power/battery life:

JWM or DWM?

just curious.

Though I am still curious how you apply that patch to dwm.

Let me know if you are willing.

Last edited by zapper (2021-06-14 10:20:38)


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#28 2021-06-14 12:04:17

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Re: low memory installation

zapper wrote:
dice wrote:
zapper wrote:

Heh,  I used dwm a few times briefly, but its just too dull for my tastes.  I am not sure how to configure autostarting apps among other things.

Dwm aka is a pile of sludge. tongue

Also, its not even that much lighter in cpu usage/ram than i3-wm and jwm. 

My two cents.

wink

I can tell you are only shit stirring so ill only bite a little bit.

You can patch dwm to autostart apps, depending on your setup and whether you are using login manager. Login manager i think you can use xsessionrc in debian.

https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/autostart/ <-- wrong patch

https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/cool_autostart/ < --this one

dwm is complicated for many as they dont understand how to use it, which is probably your issue zapper.

I am shit stirring? Well...  my bad, I just don't get DWM's appeal is all, I wanted people to explain it to me.

It confuses me greatly.

But thank you for your info! Quick question though, which uses more cpu power/battery life:

JWM or DWM?

just curious.

Though I am still curious how you apply that patch to dwm.

Let me know if you are willing.

The appeal for me is that it is a dynamic window manager, it can tile, float and use other modes like monocle and it is keyboard driven window manager mostly, so i can do most navigation without a mouse.

Ive no idea about cpu or battery life, its possible jwm does a much better job, actually i like jwm too, i rate it about the same as dwm, even though they both do a different job of being window managers.

You can apply patches in git as mentioned in below link, sometimes i find they dont apply properly so i go in and manuallly apply the patches, but beware you may need to correct a rejected diff.

Git method:
https://dwm.suckless.org/customisation/patches_in_git/

Manual method:
while inside the dwm directory ( as i build from upstream source ) manually would look something like this:

~/suckless/dwm (git)-[master] % patch -p1 < dwm-cool_autostart.diff

Last edited by dice (2021-06-14 12:10:59)

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#29 2021-06-15 04:10:45

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Re: low memory installation

dice wrote:
zapper wrote:
dice wrote:

I can tell you are only shit stirring so ill only bite a little bit.

You can patch dwm to autostart apps, depending on your setup and whether you are using login manager. Login manager i think you can use xsessionrc in debian.

https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/autostart/ <-- wrong patch

https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/cool_autostart/ < --this one

dwm is complicated for many as they dont understand how to use it, which is probably your issue zapper.

I am shit stirring? Well...  my bad, I just don't get DWM's appeal is all, I wanted people to explain it to me.

It confuses me greatly.

But thank you for your info! Quick question though, which uses more cpu power/battery life:

JWM or DWM?

just curious.

Though I am still curious how you apply that patch to dwm.

Let me know if you are willing.

The appeal for me is that it is a dynamic window manager, it can tile, float and use other modes like monocle and it is keyboard driven window manager mostly, so i can do most navigation without a mouse.

Ive no idea about cpu or battery life, its possible jwm does a much better job, actually i like jwm too, i rate it about the same as dwm, even though they both do a different job of being window managers.

You can apply patches in git as mentioned in below link, sometimes i find they dont apply properly so i go in and manuallly apply the patches, but beware you may need to correct a rejected diff.

Git method:
https://dwm.suckless.org/customisation/patches_in_git/

Manual method:
while inside the dwm directory ( as i build from upstream source ) manually would look something like this:

~/suckless/dwm (git)-[master] % patch -p1 < dwm-cool_autostart.diff

Oh, I didn't realize it was that simple. 

Huh...

Okay, I am still  curious if they both use as much resources on the cpu and battery life.

But if you don't know the answer, that's okay.

Although, I love that jwm's taskbar can allow attaching icons to it easily. such as firetools, and other things very easily.

I would have to compare again to see which is more functional to know which is better for me.

I just like JWM is feature complete aka, has a good taskbar without using a huge amount of power such as other window managers or indeed DE's.

I am looking at you XFCE, LXDE, MATE, LXQT and anything more bloated especially.

Though even Lumina has a small amount of bloat... wink

AS Desktop Environments go I mean...

Last edited by zapper (2021-06-15 04:11:15)


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