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#1 2021-04-21 18:19:52

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[SOLVED] noob-ish question

After being stuck with the distribution that I liked having systemd for the last couple years,  I finally decided to go ahead and switch over to Devuan.

My question I believe is very simple, in systemd to set the date and time you use timedatectl

What is the equivalent to do so without systemd on devuan

My breif research suggests installing ntp, is that all there is to it ?

Or would there be a config or command to run?

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#2 2021-04-21 19:15:51

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Rpisp wrote:

is that all there is to it ?

Yes. But it might be worth resetting the hardware clock & /etc/adjtime after the system clock has been updated:

# hwclock --systohc

If you need to change the time zone use this first:

# dpkg-reconfigure tzdata

antifa ftw!

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#3 2021-04-21 20:10:42

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Thank you

That was exactly what I needed

Also I just checked the link by your name and saw the sharp bang

It's very interesting to me because I use a minimal desktop with openbox and tint2

I've created a start menu however or root menu using xdotool and an autogen script

(Just the openbox menu being called by xdotool on a button click)

Also several zenity scripts of my own making to make it all more user friendly.

I may use that d/l to save on some installation time for my minimal desktop

Thanks

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#4 2021-04-21 20:19:14

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Actually I would love to hear your thoughts on connman vs nm.

I am currently using connman myself.

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#5 2021-04-22 05:43:08

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Rpisp wrote:

I may use that d/l to save on some installation time for my minimal desktop

Note that ♯! is based on Debian and so uses systemd. For a systemd-free openbox-based distribution try CROWZ, MIYO, Star or ThomOS.

Rpisp wrote:

connman vs nm

They're both bloat. Use /etc/network/interfaces instead:

https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#W … d_WPA2-PSK


antifa ftw!

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#6 2021-04-22 15:29:02

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Rpisp wrote:

I may use that d/l to save on some installation time for my minimal desktop

Note that ♯! is based on Debian and so uses systemd. For a systemd-free openbox-based distribution try CROWZ, MIYO, Star or ThomOS.

Rpisp wrote:

connman vs nm

They're both bloat. Use /etc/network/interfaces instead:

https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#W … d_WPA2-PSK

Does that method require dbus? You could use eiwd, which is iwd without dbus: https://github.com/dylanaraps/eiwd
Then I believe you could use iwctl to make connections. This is all theoretical, I haven't tried it yet. Might be worth trying though. Last time I removed dbus from antiX, I had everything basically working except networking.


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#7 2021-04-22 15:59:30

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

andyprough wrote:

Does that method require dbus?

Connecting via /etc/network/interfaces & ifupdown does not require dbus.

andyprough wrote:

Then I believe you could use iwctl to make connections

/etc/network/interfaces uses wpa_supplicant rather than iwd. The iwd version in beowulf is pre-release and so probably should not be used.


antifa ftw!

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#8 2021-04-22 16:04:00

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
andyprough wrote:

Does that method require dbus?

Connecting via /etc/network/interfaces & ifupdown does not require dbus.

Nice! I need to start hacking the guts out of antiX again and give it another shot. I gave up too easily when connman wasn't responding.

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#9 2021-04-22 19:00:47

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Rpisp wrote:

I may use that d/l to save on some installation time for my minimal desktop

Note that ♯! is based on Debian and so uses systemd. For a systemd-free openbox-based distribution try CROWZ, MIYO, Star or ThomOS.

Rpisp wrote:

connman vs nm

They're both bloat. Use /etc/network/interfaces instead:

https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#W … d_WPA2-PSK

Will check CROWZ and ThomOS out.

That is very cool. (Wifi)

Is there a frontend for that or should I start scripting?

Thanks for the info

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#10 2021-04-22 19:35:34

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Rpisp wrote:

Is there a frontend for that

The wpagui package works with /etc/network/interfaces if this line is used instead of the wpa-ssid & wpa-psk lines:

   wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

Then create the configuration file with these options listed to allow it to be altered by wpagui:

ctrl_interface=/run/wpa_supplicant
update_config=1

antifa ftw!

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#11 2021-04-22 20:39:05

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

I have a zenity script I wrote for my Raspberry Pi that uses wpa_supplicant.
It asks you to select interface, then scans for networks.
It then asks if you want to select a network and connects.

Lot of awk work in that one but some parts are raspberry pi os specific I think.

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#12 2021-04-24 02:46:08

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Interesting my raspberry pi wifi script works flawlessly on debian

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#13 2021-04-24 05:21:40

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Are you the Head_on_a_stick from obmenu-generator?

I use that and love it.

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#14 2021-04-24 07:57:49

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

@trizen is the author, I just supply the Debian & *buntu packages.


antifa ftw!

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#15 2021-04-24 19:33:24

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Question.

I have my openbox tint2 udevil spacefm desktop looking and working great.

Except it seems like it doesn't want to write to my usb thumb drives.

Copy paste no errors, can even leave the folder and return and files are listed

But remove the drive and reinsert and the file were never written

Am I missing something?

Thanks

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#16 2021-04-24 19:38:25

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Re: [SOLVED] noob-ish question

Please open a new thread for your new query. Try to stick to one question per thread and please choose a title that succinctly describes the actual problem at hand so as to aid SEO. Thanks.


antifa ftw!

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