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#2201 Re: Devuan » Search engines always return debian when I search for devaun » 2020-08-12 17:08:18

Double quote the search term: "devuan".

But anyway most Debian results will also apply to Devuan and Devuan won't have as much exposure on the interweb because it's so new.

#2202 Re: Installation » Could use help installing dropbox and/or plex-media-server » 2020-08-12 16:52:29

walterbyrd wrote:

still unable to install plexmediaserver

Why not? What exactly are you trying and how exactly does it fail? Please post the full, verbatim commands and errors.

#2203 Re: Devuan » Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM » 2020-08-12 16:46:38

Altoid wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... use ps_mem to analyse per-application memory ...

Is there a *.deb package available for ASCII?

No but it's just a python script so you can fudge an "installation" with

mkdir -p ~/git && cd ~/git
git clone https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem
mkdir ~/bin
cp ps_mem/ps_mem.py ~/bin/ps-mem
chmod +x ~/bin/ps-mem

^ That assumes the git package is installed and that ~/bin is listed in $PATH (or add it to /usr/local/bin/ for system-wide access).

Once it's all set up just call the script to run it:

ps-mem

Alternatively just run the script directly from the git repository without copying it:

cd ~/git/ps_mem
./ps_mem.py

#2204 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Firefox DoH (DNS over HTTPS) » 2020-08-12 16:40:13

I really don't understand what DoH offers that cannot be bettered with

# echo 'nameserver 9.9.9.9' > /etc/resolv.conf
# chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf

^ That will work for network activity that doesn't involve a browser, unlike DoH.

And there is also https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/beowul … ack-3.html

#2205 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » dist-upgrade on ceres still wants to remove wicd » 2020-08-12 16:36:39

mknoop wrote:

it does not happen on debian sid

Are you sure about that? The wicd package is not installable in sid (or ceres) because the python-gobject2 dependency is no longer available.

And please show us actual error messages rather than vague descriptions, it's less confusing for us and less effort for you.

HeavyDevy wrote:

it needs to be converted to python3 i think due to python2 being deprecated

The python3 version is already available in Debian's experimental repositories:

https://packages.debian.org/experimental/wicd

The OP could try using that, the experimental repositories have a pin value of 1 (one) by default so it should be "safe" to add them to a Devuan system.

#2206 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » High CPU by PulseAudio » 2020-08-11 19:12:47

Copper36 wrote:

what are those things PA can do that ALSA can't?

There are a few things like per-application volume levels (but almost every application that outputs sound has it's own volume control anyway), multiplexing (but this can be replicated in ALSA with the DMix plugin), sample rate conversion & equalisation (but it's best to use a dedicated DAC for the former and not use the latter at all) and networked audio (if all the machines on the network also have PA) but the most important advantage is plain convenience — pure ALSA tends to require command line or text file configuration whereas PA has some nice GUIs to handle most tasks.

#2207 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » High CPU by PulseAudio » 2020-08-11 17:47:17

Copper36 wrote:

Skype is definitely from MS repo and I do not remember if Clementine 1.31 I have comes from Devuan repos or not. The facts are that if I do not start them, I do not see any traces of PA in a task manager, but as soon as they are active, PA re-appears

Just because they start PA does not necessarily mean that they need PA — firefox-esr will also auto-start PA but it will still produce sound if PA is not installed.

But I've never used Skype so I have no idea if it will work without PA, why don't you try it and report back?

#2208 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » High CPU by PulseAudio » 2020-08-11 17:16:42

Copper36 wrote:

even Firefox, which I must keep open all the time (due to my work Outlook mailbox) also initiates PA via AudioIPC Server: AudioCallbackDriver.

The Devuan firefox-esr package does not need PulseAudio at all. I have yet to find an application from the repositories that actually needs PA.

#2209 Re: Devuan » Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM » 2020-08-11 17:14:38

I like to use ps_mem to analyse per-application memory usage.

#2211 Re: Devuan » Fotoxx not complaining about low RAM » 2020-08-11 16:35:55

davidb wrote:

could this change in what I'm used to seeing be a result of my system no longer relying on SystemD?

Unlikely, systemd (not "SystemD" btw) is a total memory hog but it only consumes a few MiB more than sysvinit.

Have you tried Debian with something like dwm? The desktop environment will make much more difference in respect of RAM usage.

#2213 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Amd Radeon RX 5600 XT » 2020-08-09 18:53:18

Did you also upgrade the kernel? Here's the metapackage you need: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/beowul … o10+1.html

For early KMS support add this line to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules:

amdgpu

Then rebuild the initramfs again:

# update-initramfs -u -k all

#2214 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » changing locale for Cinnamon desktop » 2020-08-09 17:07:46

RJVB wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Probably better to use the supplied abstraction mechanism to modify /etc/default/locale:

# dpkg-reconfigure locales

Why?

Try it and see wink

RJVB wrote:

Or maybe the abstraction mechanism is just a fancy, obfuscated way to achieve the same thing.

^ This.

#2215 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » changing locale for Cinnamon desktop » 2020-08-09 15:50:18

RJVB wrote:

I think I finally managed through a combination of changing the settings in that file and in /etc/default/locale

Probably better to use the supplied abstraction mechanism to modify /etc/default/locale:

# dpkg-reconfigure locales
RJVB wrote:

it's not exactly the kind of (novice) users of an otherwise fancy and frankly quite nice looking desktop to have to jump through

Devuan isn't really aimed at n00bs, perhaps try one of the derivatives instead.

Or you could try installing the Mint .deb package:

http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/main/m/mintlocale/

#2216 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Amd Radeon RX 5600 XT » 2020-08-09 12:49:29

The 5600XT needs the kernel from beowulf-backports and the Navi firmware which can be obtained either from the ceres firmware-amd-graphics .deb package (don't add the repositories, they will break your system) or directly from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … .git/tree/ (place it under /lib/firmware/amdgpu/ and rebuild the initramfs).

#2218 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » changing locale for Cinnamon desktop » 2020-08-09 11:44:28

RJVB wrote:

So far I've tried to set $LANG and $LANGUAGE in the usual shell startup scripts (.bashrc, .profile, .login) but it appears something is overwriting them.

How about ~/.xsessionrc?

Disclaimer: I don't use Cinnamon.

#2219 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] disable frame buffer » 2020-08-09 11:41:46

See https://support.digium.com/s/article/Ho … g-problems & https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/fb/fbcon.html but I think a better solution would be to set a bigger console font:

# apt install console-setup
# dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

#2220 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Packages Kept Back (Ceres) » 2020-08-09 11:37:32

How are you attempting to update your system?

I would use

# apt update
# apt upgrade
# apt full-upgrade

Or perhaps

# apt update
# aptitude safe-upgrade
# aptitude full-upgrade

Note that full upgrades are sometimes needed in testing/unstable because obsolete packages have to be removed. Also note that full upgrades can break testing/unstable systems if a transition is underway.

https://release.debian.org/transitions/

#2221 Re: Other Issues » Install grub so that EFI directory is 'devuan' » 2020-08-09 11:24:41

sgage wrote:

I want to have a separate devuan and debian directory.

Why? If it's that important to you then install GRUB from an Arch live ISO (use the --boot-directory= & --efi-directory= options to avoid the need to chroot).

I can't find a reference in the changlelog but I presume $ESP/EFI/debian is being created because of https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=925309

#2222 Re: Freedom Hacks » Do not use pulseaudio » 2020-08-07 20:49:07

For those who have laptops with HDMI outputs see this guide for setting the non-HDMI output as the default:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ad … sound_card

#2223 Re: Installation » [Solved]Grub failing to boot - grub_calloc not found » 2020-08-07 20:42:55

uther wrote:

So I've mounted /boot on /mnt and tried reinstall grub, but apt install grub-pc failes on nvme on which /boot partition is located.

root@devuan:~# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/nvme0n1
Installing for i386-pc platform.
grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.

My instructions were non-UEFI specific and if you have a GPT disk then you almost certainly had a UEFI system so you should have used

# apt update
# apt install grub-efi-amd64 # or grub-efi-ia32 for 32-bit UEFI implementations
# mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
# mkdir /efi
# mount /dev/sdXZ /efi
# grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/efi --boot-directory=/mnt/boot
# umount /efi
# rmdir /efi
# reboot

Replace X with the drive letter, replace Y with the root partition number (or the /boot partition if that is separate, in which case omit /boot from the --boot-directory switch) and replace Z with the number for the EFI system partition.

uther wrote:

How to do it if all disc space is already taken?

I use sectors 34-2047 for BIOS boot partitions, that space should be free in a correctly-aligned disk.

uther wrote:

Also I have amd64 system and grub installer is i386 - is it normal?

The i386-pc bit refers to the non-UEFI bootloader rather than the system architecture.

#2224 Re: Documentation » Replace GRUB with alternate bootloader: extlinux » 2020-08-06 17:08:58

fsmithred wrote:
	append initrd=/initrd.img ro root=/dev/sda1

It's better to identify the root partition with UUIDs, the block device allocation can change from one boot to the next.

	append initrd=/initrd.img ro root=UUID=$uuid

^ Replace $uuid with the actual UUID of the root partition.

#2225 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » While a pause until rechecking. » 2020-08-06 17:02:00

torvn77 wrote:

there is no 32 bit version of the vulkan library

Yes there is, it's clearly listed in your posted output.

Your actual problem is that your Steam games don't work so please change the thread title to accurately reflect the situation rather than state your opinion of the cause.

Have you seen https://wiki.debian.org/Steam#Steam_runtime_issues?

We had a similar thread over at fdn but in that one vulkaninfo(1) couldn't find the 64-bit libraries: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=142110

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