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I always use direct email method to report bugs not reportbug which can do weird things.
dxrobertson wrote:I think the --installed option shows only whats actually installed-
Thanks.
I also ran this command for libpulse0 and it shows that of the apps I have installed, that simple screen recorder, mpv, mplayer, and mate-settings-daemon (among others) depend upon it. Looking at the description for libpulse0 in Synaptic it says it is PulseAudio client libraries. Why would these apps depend on libpulse0 especially since a lot of people on Linux don't use Pulseaudio? I find that disturbing, even though I don't fully know why.
It's part of a "lock-in" on the way to a one-size-fits-all OS that will be nothing like what we have known and loved. Modularity will be a thing of the past. At least they'll try to do that. Resistance is not futile. There is always a way around the mousetrap. ![]()
Anyway, i am still using FF52.9 ESR because some extensions i rely on are no more compatible with the newer versions of FF.
I was also on 52.9 ESR until a few days ago when I finally upgraded. It is a bit of a clusterf**k and several days later I'm still trying to get it back close to where it was. It's now in a somewhat acceptable state. But since I use it for very few things anymore, it's not a biggie.
You can also add VB to your sources.list:
deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/ <release name> contrib non-free @bobmon . . . you might want to drop into #devuan-arm on freenode. parazyd does not frequent this forum.
I understand you can get around that dependency with apulse. Search this forum amd DNG archives for discussion. I need sleep or would do it myself.
This response from riseup:
It wont be possible to decontaminate snapd, but we are producing a debian package, and it does work.
So if you're using Devuan, their VPN isn't going to work for you.
The lemmings will do what they will. Swim upstream. The trend is not alarming. It is predictable.
Well, it was educational. The banking system is all smoke and mirrors or house of cards . . . pick your metaphor . . . Jaromil's objection iiuc is that this crypto would be tied to individuals through their FB accounts (not anonymous) so detailed profiles of very personal preferences and habits can be assembled that could be used to further commodify personal data.
Do it now if you're going to do it. You have about a week before jessie is retired. I heard that july 6 is the projected date.
I was in a bit of a panic over this date but then found this nugget in a post on FDN:
Jessie support is now handled by the LTS team rather than Security team. You should be OK until June 30, 2020.
Evidently June 6 is not a hard cutoff date for jessie so we have a little breathing room.
This is true but OT for this thread which is about the surveillance potential of zuck bucks,. Please restrain yourself HoaS and try to keep on topic.
One Problem i noted with XFCE on Jessie is Problem with multimonitor as XFCE would not allow easily to extend the monitor onto two Monitors.
Experiment with xrandr and/or lxrandr. That should get things set up for you.
Has this issue been solved? What About switching to KDE?
KDE is available as an option - if you like bling and bloat.
Could i then from Jessie go straight to Beowulf or would i Need to upgrade to Ascii first?
Absolutely not. You need to go through ascii to get to beowulf.
Hello ,
i am currently running Debian Wheezy and am wondering if there is an upgrade path for me to switch to Devuan Jessie.
The current Desktop Environment is Gnome3 and i have Radeon Fglrx Driver installed (which i would deinstall prior due to suggested non-compatibility with Jessie).
Yes, there is! You'll find documentation here. I'm not 100% sure if you can go directly from Wheezy or need to upgrade to Debian Jessie first. Gnome is a no-go so the suggestion is to switch to Xfce before the upgrade. Devuan has the same firmware available as Debian.
Note that in sources.list, jessie-updates is no longer in use for old-stable so would throw errors.
Besides, if VPN service require custom proprietary VPN client it's a spyware.
Do you know anything about riseup.net? I suggest you learn more about them. From their homepage:
Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications.
Reopening this thread to see if it can stay on-topic and away from the irrelevancies of political ideology.
Going to close this as it is never going to be useful for anything. Political opinions never are . . .
There is also a post about this from last month on riseup.net and this was the reply:
Crossbill replied... 2019-05-08
Hello,
We are working on a debian package of riseup-vpn, its getting close to being done. I suspect that this could be installed and used without systemd.
crossbill
I have requested a notification if this package ever gets finished.
Hi penguin and welcome to devuan. I got that email from riseup.net today also. Unfortunately snapd is on devuan's banned package list. So unless someone removes that dependency and repackages there is no way to install without systemd. And that may not even be possible.
OMG! Not another thread about this . . .
I won't be venturing there either.
I'm just the messenger . . .
Thanks for taking a look. That actually surprised me so good for you!
There are some other ideas here:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 89.en.html
But the real issue is somewhere here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3
Perhaps you can find the needle in the haystack that is causing this?
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/amprolla.txt
Speculation is not useful; it's a foolish pastime. We have a lot of work to do before we can even begin to sort those issues. It's best to just put one foot in front of the other in the present moment and we'll get there eventually.
@jitterssnowpaw . . . I have moderated your meltdown posts to a hidden area to spare you the public embarrassment. sgage has given you some ideas to de-stress. You are welcome to continue when you have regained your composure.
Ah, just saw your last post. Goodby then. That is also an option. Take care . . .
List of banned Debian packages. Some may never be decontaminated of systemd.
List of Devuan packages. Not all of them are systemd-related.