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#1951 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie » 2019-07-02 15:16:30
Do it now if you're going to do it. You have about a week before jessie is retired. I heard that july 6 is the projected date.
I was in a bit of a panic over this date but then found this nugget in a post on FDN:
Jessie support is now handled by the LTS team rather than Security team. You should be OK until June 30, 2020.
Evidently June 6 is not a hard cutoff date for jessie so we have a little breathing room.
#1952 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-07-01 21:07:42
This is true but OT for this thread which is about the surveillance potential of zuck bucks,. Please restrain yourself HoaS and try to keep on topic.
#1953 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie » 2019-07-01 15:57:57
One Problem i noted with XFCE on Jessie is Problem with multimonitor as XFCE would not allow easily to extend the monitor onto two Monitors.
Experiment with xrandr and/or lxrandr. That should get things set up for you.
Has this issue been solved? What About switching to KDE?
KDE is available as an option - if you like bling and bloat.
Could i then from Jessie go straight to Beowulf or would i Need to upgrade to Ascii first?
Absolutely not. You need to go through ascii to get to beowulf.
#1954 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie » 2019-06-30 18:48:05
Hello ,
i am currently running Debian Wheezy and am wondering if there is an upgrade path for me to switch to Devuan Jessie.
The current Desktop Environment is Gnome3 and i have Radeon Fglrx Driver installed (which i would deinstall prior due to suggested non-compatibility with Jessie).
Yes, there is! You'll find documentation here. I'm not 100% sure if you can go directly from Wheezy or need to upgrade to Debian Jessie first. Gnome is a no-go so the suggestion is to switch to Xfce before the upgrade. Devuan has the same firmware available as Debian.
Note that in sources.list, jessie-updates is no longer in use for old-stable so would throw errors.
#1955 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-30 14:49:42
Besides, if VPN service require custom proprietary VPN client it's a spyware.
Do you know anything about riseup.net? I suggest you learn more about them. From their homepage:
Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications.
#1956 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-06-28 19:04:24
Reopening this thread to see if it can stay on-topic and away from the irrelevancies of political ideology.
#1957 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-06-27 18:42:56
Going to close this as it is never going to be useful for anything. Political opinions never are . . .
#1958 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-27 02:51:46
There is also a post about this from last month on riseup.net and this was the reply:
Crossbill replied... 2019-05-08
Hello,
We are working on a debian package of riseup-vpn, its getting close to being done. I suspect that this could be installed and used without systemd.
crossbill
I have requested a notification if this package ever gets finished.
#1959 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-27 01:00:58
Hi penguin and welcome to devuan. I got that email from riseup.net today also. Unfortunately snapd is on devuan's banned package list. So unless someone removes that dependency and repackages there is no way to install without systemd. And that may not even be possible.
#1960 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] firefox-esr update » 2019-06-20 23:24:18
OMG! Not another thread about this . . .
#1961 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-06-20 19:36:47
I won't be venturing there either. 
I'm just the messenger . . .
#1962 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-06-20 02:19:59
Thanks for taking a look. That actually surprised me so good for you!
There are some other ideas here:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 89.en.html
But the real issue is somewhere here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3
#1963 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-06-19 22:35:12
Perhaps you can find the needle in the haystack that is causing this?
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/amprolla.txt
#1964 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-18 03:06:37
Speculation is not useful; it's a foolish pastime. We have a lot of work to do before we can even begin to sort those issues. It's best to just put one foot in front of the other in the present moment and we'll get there eventually.
#1965 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-16 23:19:50
@jitterssnowpaw . . . I have moderated your meltdown posts to a hidden area to spare you the public embarrassment. sgage has given you some ideas to de-stress. You are welcome to continue when you have regained your composure.
Ah, just saw your last post. Goodby then. That is also an option. Take care . . .
#1966 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-16 22:54:07
List of banned Debian packages. Some may never be decontaminated of systemd.
List of Devuan packages. Not all of them are systemd-related.
#1967 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-16 19:36:26
So, I'm curious and genuinely asking: what's exactly the point of Devuan?
Perhaps to make Debian great again. Just imagine what Debian would look like if Devuan did not exist. Shudder . . .
#1968 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-16 16:34:19
You might also want to look at these guides:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … -here.html
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … evuan.html
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … stall.html
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … e-gui.html
Those links are on the Download page of the devuan.org website.
(S)He who does not seek will not find.
#1970 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-14 21:44:13
So two maintainers have left then?
More than 2 Debian devs hang out with Devuan. And no . . . I'm not going to list names. 
#1971 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] DSA-4462-1 dbus -- security update » 2019-06-14 21:33:32
I'm glad if Dbus will be devuanized. I don't like to have libsystemd0 installed.
libsystemd0 is no longer present in beowulf thanks to changes in libelogind.
#1972 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-14 21:30:28
Or Debian will come to its senses by allowing init freedom at installation and requiring packages to support all init options.
#1973 Re: Other Issues » Beowulf missing /usr/sbin commands (update-rc.d & openvpn) [Solved] » 2019-06-12 07:35:25
This should help to explain things:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2858
#1974 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Display manager issue » 2019-06-12 06:07:19
Have you read the Release Notes? Plenty of tips in there that might help you sort this. Those notes are for ascii. I guessed because you didn't specify which release you were on.
#1975 Re: Devuan » Clarification of the relationship between Dyne and Devuan » 2019-06-09 16:51:31
stanz wrote:My next donation will not go thru dyne! We'll chat about that one day.
Is there another way?
There is not afaik.
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