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#1826 Re: Installation » Beowulf and MySQL » 2019-12-31 16:27:56

It might be available in the beowulf backports which aren't available yet but will be soon.

#1827 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » USB Multiboot » 2019-12-28 18:07:01

@fsmithred . . . I suggested he look at that to confirm that multiboot can be done.  I thought if he poked at it a bit he might be able to figure out how to put one together.

#1828 Re: Off-topic » Festive Season » 2019-12-27 16:08:38

May the GR vote gift us a sane result!!

#1829 Re: News & Announcements » Merry Christmas » 2019-12-24 23:10:40

I contribute one vote for the Solstice!  That's something that everyone on this planet shares in common.  big_smile

Longer days now coming . . .

#1830 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-21 02:09:22

The guy who does venenux used to hang around here.  His most recent post was 2019-11-26.

#1831 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » USB Multiboot » 2019-12-20 16:53:58

Please look at the multi-boot iso that fsmithred made for the Devuan conference in April.  That may give you some hints.

#1832 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-18 16:48:21

freemedia2018 wrote:

thanks if someone let the post through, its posted.

I didn't touch it.  By the time I read your post, it was already there.  Perhaps you are too impatient . . .

#1833 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Apt-get show one package per line? » 2019-12-17 01:19:41

Sorry, I don't have an answer for you but I feel your pain.  I have always been overwhelmed by the blob of text too.  That's one reason I use synaptic which produces a nice neat list that can be manipulated in several ways.

#1834 Re: Documentation » usr merge in Devuan Ascii » 2019-12-15 07:14:16

Just an fyi that the default in beowulf will be NOT to merge but there will be an option in the installer if you want to do the merge.

#1835 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-15 00:34:48

He, I and a few others raised hell on debian-users and FDN prior to the first GR.  He's a regular on skarnet's supervision list.

https://www.mail-archive.com/supervisio … arnet.org/
http://www.troubleshooters.com/ 
https://www.freelists.org/archive/modular-debian/

#1837 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2019-12-13 07:43:11

freemedia2018 wrote:

fsmithred used to care about 32 bit (he likely still does, i havent asked) and roy from techrights still uses it as well.

Yes he cares: https://get.refracta.org/   I also use 32 bit OS.  It does everything that I need. 

also the idea of using a browser from github is a bit creepy, i consider everything on github controlled by microsoft. that problem is going to get worse before it gets better.

You can vet the code of course.  smile  Sure it's creepy that ms is in charge of github but that's not really fair to judge devs who suffer from inertia and stay put there.

#1838 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-13 05:29:33

yeti wrote:

Have a look at how FreedomBox handles this: https://discuss.freedombox.org/c/contributor-invites

Maybe publishing a list with open problems that itself is a bit less verbose already would be good enough for Devuan?

Lists of what needs doing has never worked very well.  What works is someone seeing/experiencing a problem, figuring out how to fix it and sharing.

#1839 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-13 05:25:08

aut0exec wrote:

I'm in as always. Just not sure where I can help or how to get started really. Would love to help work fixes into SysV just don't possess the coding background at current to be of much use there, ha.

Reality check.  I didn't own a computer (which I didn't really want - it was a gift) till I was near 60.  I had zero technical background.  Then I wanted to "do things" so I taught myself . . . html and css from scratch in a text editor, graphics, audio and video editing, desktop theming etc .  If I didn't like something, I figured out how to fix it, even hacking the registry in my windoze days because I wanted things MY way.  My appetite for learning new things and experimenting may not be as voracious as it was all those years ago and tbh, I couldn't pull a bash script out of my head without DDG but I still manage to contribute to Devuan.  I bet you could find a niche that suits you if you looked hard enough.

#1840 Re: Off-topic » ill just use the mailing list » 2019-12-12 21:05:14

freemedia2018 wrote:

at any rate, it take hours or more for my emails to end up "lurker" and im not sure theyre all going through at all. i sent one reply that seems to be missing, while other replies to the same thread have shown up

That is a moderated list.  I just let you in.

#1841 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-12 01:34:23

sgage wrote:
aut0exec wrote:

If Debian goes full systemd, what will this mean for Devuan?

Surely that is the question...

We'll need less yammering and more hands on deck to do actual work.

#1843 Re: Off-topic » ill just use the mailing list » 2019-12-11 00:54:03

sgage wrote:

Simmer down, man! It's not all about you, y'know. I think you are overreacting just a tad. I agree with most of what you've been saying, but you seem to be seeing enemies where they're not.

Well said.  Impatience, impulsiveness and drama will derail the best-intentioned efforts.

#1844 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-11 00:32:14

Whoa!!! That comment was more of a general statement rather than specifically directed at you.   I have beat that drum many times on devuan channels.  Mostly it falls on deaf ears and that is frustrating yet I keep trying.   Perhaps it is true of all software (or other) projects that there are always too few people who will roll up their sleeves and commit.  It is also true that we each have our unique talents.

I have held back because I'm not clear on exactly how you would implement the ideas/protections that we have discussed in some detail.  If we agree that the 5 "Pillars" of GNU-Linux are the only way to protect truly free software what is the plan to ensure that it becomes the defacto standard?

No need to pick up your marbles and go home.  Really.  You won't find a more receptive audience than you will here.  smile

#1845 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-10 22:07:32

freemedia2018 wrote:

if you find a piece of something you can fix, great. but if nobody knows it exists, that sadly wont help much.

Have at it.  Plenty of bugs to choose from.  We know they exist but it's easier to talk.

Note that some of these reports may not actually be "bugs" but we don't know because no one is checking.

#1846 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-10 06:47:44

Soon you will not be able to choose not to run systemd.  Systemd is "capturing" the GNU-Linux "commons" that we have shared for decades through a web of hard dependencies. The only choice will be not to use GNU-Linux.

#1847 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-12-10 06:41:37

Blah, blah, blah . . . all this talk is not going to save GNU-Linux.   Only DOING can accomplish that.

#1849 Re: ARM Builds » Is any work planned for devuan on the raspberry pi 4? » 2019-12-09 04:21:42

From the ASCII 2.1 point release announcement

What about ARM and virtual images?

Going forward, ARM and also virtual images will be provided by the greater Devuan community rather than as part of official releases. Users are being encouraged to build and contribute ARM images for their particular hardware. This will increase the variety of images available and allow the release schedule of the installer ISOs to move forward more quickly.

Images can be built using using arm-sdk and vm-sdk: https://devuan.org/os/distro-kit

Arm-related discussion happens at #devuan-arm (Freenode) and https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=24

Images will eventually be available via p2p torrent(s).

https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/ascii … nce-112119

#1850 Re: Off-topic » free software force and the free software definition » 2019-12-07 20:19:55

That is pretty much where I got all twisted around trying to make my point.

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