Posts by Altoid

Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

I installed xorg (w/apt from the command line) but startx fails.

[   110.795] 
X.Org X Server 1.19.2
Release Date: 2017-03-02
[   110.795] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   110.796] Build Operating System: Linux 4.9.0-8-amd64 i686 Debian
[   110.796] Current Operating System: Linux devuan 4.9.0-9-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1+deb9u2 (2019-05-13) i686
[   110.796] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-9-686-pae root=UUID=d7ba4ecc-07b2-47a8-9f73-93cd00864862 ro ipv6.disable=1 enable_mtrr_cleanup nmi_watchdog=0
[   110.797] Build Date: 03 November 2018  03:08:43AM
[   110.797] xorg-server 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u5 (https://www.debian.org/support) 
[   110.797] Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
--- snip ---
[   110.949] (EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: The name org.freedesktop.login1 was not provided by any .service files
--- snip ---
 Permission denied
[   111.953] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[   111.953] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[   111.953] (EE) 
[   111.953] (EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[   111.953] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/home/groucho/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[   111.953] (EE) 
[   111.983] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

I have not installed anything else yet as I want to go step by step to check if anything fails.
Next would be xfce with --no-install-recommends to keep it lean.

Does this happen because there is no manager or is something wrong?
Never done it like this before, shouldn't I get an x screen?

Thanks in advance.

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

ToxicExMachina wrote:

I think input subsystem doesn't start properly. Check X.org logs: Xorg.0.log from /var/log or ~/.local/share/xorg

Yes, I've been looking into that.
The xserver relies on udev for the list of input devices and the log does not list keyboard or trackpad.
So that's a lead.

But there's something else, of a more serious nature, amiss here ...
To post here, I was wanting to put the output of Xorg.0.log (a txt file) on an SD card mounted by me as root in /media/SD and as root was denied access.
I was also denied chown. (!!!)

Something (what?) when/after I uninstalled slim knocked out some essentials. ie: udev whatevers and some permission configs.

fsmithred wrote:

We removed lxde from the desktop choices in the ascii installer isos because it wasn't quite right. You'll need to find the right combination of packages to get what you want.

I did not know that and went for it as it is what Knoppix chose in their rescue CDs.
They usually know what they are doing but then each CD is a custom compound of many sources, custom tailored and not really updateable.
ie: have to reinstall (if used 'on-disk') every time and have probably ironed out whatever ails lxde.

It's a dejavu feeling having to reinstall (years of suffering MS) to fix something but at this point I think it is the best thing to do.

It's all down to Linux experience and eventually I will know how to avoid this type of crap and if not, know enough to be able to fix it.

But now I'm reinstalling. =-/

Thanks to all for your input.

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

I'll try a couple of things and check back.

Famous last words ...

I reinstalled slim and the result was a totally unresponsive keyboard and trackpad.
So I purged slim and went for lxde, with the same result.

Then I purged both lxde and xserver, reinstalled xserver and ...
... got the same result ie: was a totally unresponsive keyboard and trackpad.

So now I've purged lxde and xserver, pondering my next step.
Theoretically speaking, what I now have is a base system with a few added things (like sudo, etc.)

Cheers,

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Then run it.

My mistake, it seems it is running.

groucho@devuan:~$ pgrep -a polkit
1685 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
1828 lxpolkit
groucho@devuan:~$

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

My earlier post suggests how.

This:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... install a graphical polkit authentication agent and (auto)start it.

If you mean slim, xdm and such, that's what I was not wanting to have, which is why I unisntalled lxdm.
Maybe that's where it went south?
So much for modularity ...

With respect to /.xsessionrc, it's not in /:

groucho@devuan:/$ locate xsessionrc
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc
groucho@devuan:/$

40x11-common_xsessionrc relates to Xsession:

groucho@devuan:/$ cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc
# This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed.

#Source user defined xsessionrc (locales and other environment variables)
if [ -r "$USERXSESSIONRC" ]; then
  . "$USERXSESSIONRC"
fi
groucho@devuan:/$

Which in turn I can find elsewhere and gets complicated:

groucho@devuan:/$ locate Xsession
/etc/X11/Xsession
/etc/X11/Xsession.d
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/20vdpau-va-gl
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/20x11-common_process-args
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/35x11-common_xhost-local
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/52gtk3-nooverlayscrollbar-nocsd
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/60xdg-user-dirs-update
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/90consolekit
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/90qt-a11y
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/90qt5-opengl
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/95dbus_update-activation-env
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start
/etc/X11/Xsession.options
/usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz
/usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.options.5.gz
groucho@devuan:/$

FWIW, my workstation which runs slim and XFCE4 has the same 40x11-common_xsessionrc and no /.xsessionrc.

If polkit and lxpolkit are running maybe it is some DBus issue?

I'll try a couple of things and check back.

Thanks a lot for your input.

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

chris2be8 wrote:

The ? means that polkitd isn't attached to a terminal. ps aux gives more ...

OK, here's ps aux:

groucho@devuan:~$ ps aux | grep polkit
root      1709  0.3  0.3  37032  6428 ?        Sl   13:49   0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
groucho   1852  0.2  0.8  45036 17144 tty1     Sl   13:50   0:00 lxpolkit
groucho   2052  0.0  0.0   4728   840 pts/0    S+   13:51   0:00 grep polkit
groucho@devuan:~$

chris@rigel:~/bin$ ps aux | head -3
USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.0  0.0  15812  1628 ?        Ss    2018   2:25 init [2]
root         2  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S     2018   0:05 [kthreadd]
The second command is just to show the column headings.
The first column shows polkit runs as root which is why you need ps ax to show it.

I see ...
(have to read up on this)

Thanks for your input.

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

ps ax | grep polkit
to see if it's running.

Ahh ...

groucho@devuan:~$ ps ax | grep polkit
 1677 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
 1820 tty1     Sl     0:00 lxpolkit
 1961 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep polkit
groucho@devuan:~$

It seems it's ?

I also had a look at /var/log/auth.log.

groucho@devuan:~$ cat /var/log/auth.log | grep -i failed
--- snip ...
May 13 17:02:40 devuan dbus[1518]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit': timed out
May 13 17:13:51 devuan polkitd(authority=local): Operator of unix-process:2448:231281 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic for unix-process:2448:231281 [/bin/sh /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec] (owned by unix-user:groucho)
May 13 17:17:28 devuan polkitd(authority=local): Operator of unix-process:2524:253913 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic for unix-process:2524:253913 [/bin/sh /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec] (owned by unix-user:groucho)
May 13 22:02:12 devuan dbus[1516]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit': timed out
May 13 22:48:28 devuan dbus[1513]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit': timed out
May 13 23:54:04 devuan dbus[1499]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit': timed out

I saw this on this info as relevant (?) in bugs.debian and thought it may help if you had it:
Not that I have a clue ... =-/

groucho@devuan:~$ ls -al /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
-rwsr-xr-- 1 root messagebus 42892 Mar 16 03:22 /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
groucho@devuan:~$

groucho@devuan:~$ LANG=C apt-cache policy $(dpkg -S /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper | cut -d":" -f1)
dbus:
  Installed: 1.10.22-1+devuan2
  Candidate: 1.10.22-1+devuan2
  Version table:
 *** 1.10.22-1+devuan2 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main i386 Packages
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates/main i386 Packages
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
groucho@devuan:~$ dbus

Thanks for your input.

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... install a graphical polkit authentication agent ...

See the list of installed packages.
It is installed but not (?) running.

Thanks for your input.

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

It probably has to do with policykit backends.

A permissions things, to be sure.

fsmithred wrote:

...removed lxde from the desktop choices in the ascii installer isos because it wasn't quite right.

I see ...

fsmithred wrote:

... need to find the right combination of packages ...

OK.

fsmithred wrote:

...find out what's installed.
dpkg -l | egrep "consolekit|elogind|libpam|policykit|polkit"

Here it is ...

groucho@devuan:~$ dpkg -l | egrep "consolekit|elogind|libpam|policykit|polkit"
ii  consolekit  0.4.6-6  i386  framework for defining and tracking users, sessions and seats
ii  elogind  234.4-2  i386  user, seat and session management daemon
ii  libelogind0:i386  234.4-2  i386  user, seat and session management library
ii  libpam-cap:i386  1:2.25-1  i386  POSIX 1003.1e capabilities (PAM module)
ii  libpam-elogind:i386  234.4-2  i386  elogind PAM module
ii  libpam-gnome-keyring:i386  3.20.0-3  i386  PAM module to unlock the GNOME keyring upon login
ii  libpam-modules:i386  1.1.8-3.6  i386  Pluggable Authentication Modules for PAM
ii  libpam-modules-bin  1.1.8-3.6  i386  Pluggable Authentication Modules for PAM - helper binaries
ii  libpam-runtime  1.1.8-3.6  all  Runtime support for the PAM library
ii  libpam0g:i386  1.1.8-3.6  i386  Pluggable Authentication Modules library
ii  libpolkit-agent-1-0:i386  0.105-25+devuan0~bpo2+1  i386  PolicyKit Authentication Agent API
ii  libpolkit-backend-1-0  0.105-25+devuan0~bpo2+1  all  PolicyKit Authorization API
ii  libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0:i386  0.105-25+devuan0~bpo2+1  i386  PolicyKit backend API
ii  libpolkit-gobject-1-0  0.105-25+devuan0~bpo2+1  all  PolicyKit Authorization API
ii  libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0:i386  0.105-25+devuan0~bpo2+1  i386  PolicyKit Authorization API
ii  libpolkit-qt5-1-1:i386  0.112.0-5  i386  PolicyKit-qt5-1 library
ii  lxpolkit  0.5.3-2  i386  LXDE PolicyKit authentication agent
ii  lxqt-policykit  0.11.1-1  i386  LXQt authentication agent for PolicyKit
ii  lxqt-policykit-l10n  0.11.2-1  all  Language package for lxqt-policykit
ii  policykit-1  0.105-25+devuan0~bpo2+1  i386  framework for managing administrative policies and privileges
ii  policykit-1-gnome  0.105-6  i386  authentication agent for PolicyKit
groucho@devuan:~$

... but none in the list seem to be running:

groucho@devuan:~$ ps x | grep "consolekit|elogind|libpam|policykit|polkit"
5050 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep consolekit|elogind|libpam|policykit|polkit
groucho@devuan:~$

Thanks in advance,

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

While testing light desktops for my 1000HE, I installed a minimal Devuan ASCII, then X11 and LXDE.
Uninstalled LXDM and start X as user after the login.

All installations made as root after login (without the desktop) have worked perfectly.

But I'm having a problem for which I have not been able to find a solution and am at my wits end.

1. Once the desktop is up (takes a good 30/40s) , there's a pop-up with a notice:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.GeneralError: Unable to lookup session information for process '1824'

This only happens if from a cold start, after a reboot.
Logging out and then logging in again, from the desktop or the system will not have this behaviour. ie: desktop comes up quickly and no pop-up.

But if I reboot it is there again.

2.
I can only start synaptic via gksu in a terminal, if I try to do it from the menu, anything I try to click with the mouse or even ctrl+alt+del is unresponsive.
ie: synaptic-pkexec (.desktop file command) is not working.
Hard shutdown required.

3. Attempting to shutdown or reboot from the menu shows an error at the bottom of the window:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Interactive authentication required.
Only logout is possible.

4. Maybe unrelated ...
Cannot get the new settings for the LXTerminal to stick.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

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Altoid · Installation

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Sometimes the long way is the short way.

Quite so ...

Next time I'll do a more thorough search before posting. =^ |
The upside is that the solution (if needed by anyone else) now has a reference here at Dev1.

EDIT:

Because of what happened here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16075#p16075 I had to reinstall ASCII again.

What called my attention was that, with the SATA configuration in BIOS now set at AHCI (instead of IDE), the ASCII 2.0.0_i386_netinst.iso did not do what I expected it would.

ie:
Automatically detect AHCI in the BIOS (or ask/offer), setting the proper parameters by adding ahci and libahci to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and writing list instead of most into /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf.

Granted, I was using expert install without being one, but is Is this by design?

Maybe this could be fixed by the option most including ahci and libahci?
AHCI is needed for SSDs and these days many notebooks come with one as standard issue.

Just an idea, don't know if there's something that prevents it.

When I was not able to boot into the new installation, I tried to make the necessary changes from within (opening a terminal in the root filesystem) but was ultimately stumped by not being able to do update-initramfs -u so I had to reinstall again.

Cheers,

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Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

I guess I could reinstall ASCII and be done with it but I'd like to know if it is something (relatively) simple to fix so I can learn something new from this.
But it will not boot into recovery mode, just drops to a shell I've never used:

It was much easier than I would have thought.
Certainly easier to fix than the hassle I went throug to install the AHCI drivers in XP.

See:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/976071/ … de-to-ahci

This is what worked for me.
modify: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
add the modules (each per new line):
ahci libahci
modify then this file: /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
and change < most > into < list>
run: update-initramfs -u
Reboot to BIOS, switch to AHCI and boot Xubuntu.

Cheers,

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Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Continuing with my Devuan ASCII Asus 1000HE installation.

One of the things that were not done a few years ago (7 or 8?) when I last updated the XP installation that (still) resides on the drive was to update the drivers for AHCI.

At the time XP was rolled out, AHCI was still under developement and drivers were rolled out by Intel a few years on but MS did not see it fit to include them in SP3.

I've done it now and the 1000HE seems to be a bit snappier in XP and was hoping that the same would happen with Devuan ASCII, but now it will not boot.

At a certain point at the start of the boot process, the screen reads:

Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done

This for about 10/12 lines, then waits for the root file system and finally quits: Gave up waiting for the file system device.

Seems Devuan now cannot find the HDD.

Common problems:
- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline
- Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) 
- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules: ls/dev)
ALERT! UUID=[number] does not exist. Dropping to a shell!

Not susrprising as the drive is now running in AHCI mode but back then, when Devuan was installed, the drive was running in IDE mode
I've moved the goal posts/unilaterally changed condiitons, so to speak.

My bets are on a missing AHCI module but I would not know where to start to fix that.

I guess I could reinstall ASCII and be done with it but I'd like to know if it is something (relatively) simple to fix so I can learn something new from this.
But it will not boot into recovery mode, just drops to a shell I've never used:

BusyBox v1.22.1 (Debian 1:1.22.0-19+b3) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in comands.
(initramfs) _

Thanks in advance.

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Altoid · Hardware & System Configuration

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Sorry, I should have said that.

No problem ...
Things I should have said but never did. 8^D!

In any case, it doesn't work.
Boot freezes at ~34.000s on, right after eth0 gets up.
And there it stays, waiting for crtl+alt+del.

Fortunately I've been brushing up on my command line and fixed it in a jiffy.

It seems that the newer drivers are not so backwards compatible with the older chipsets.

Thanks for your input.

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Altoid · Hardware & System Configuration

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The UXA acceleration method is ancient ...

Yes, that's what (in a way) the post I referred to implies.
But the problem I (and others had) with Pale Moon had to do not with Pale Moon but with the (newer) default acceleration method setting ie: sna used on the older Intel chipsets, like the ones my Asus 1000HE has. Going back to uxa apparently solved the issue.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... have you tried Xorg's built-in modesetting DDX driver?

Actually, I had no idea about all this.
I came across this setting because of the issue I had with Pale Moon.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-modesetting.conf:
Section "Device"
        Identifier "Device0"
        Driver "modesetting"
EndSection

I guess I can try it and see what happens.

And what do I do with /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf?
I guess there cannot be two acceleration settings.
Or are they unrelated?

Thanks for your input.

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Altoid · Hardware & System Configuration

Hello:

I've successfully installed 32bit Devuan ASCII to run on my Asus 1000HE (Atom N280@166/2Gb RAM).

I then rid myself of Mozilla Firefox and installed Pale Mooon 28.5.0, I think it's probably a keeper.

Then, looking to solve an issue which I thought was related to Pale Mooon, I posted at the Pale Moon forum and was directed to a thread with this post:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph … 41#p160541

The issue I was looking to solve turned out to be totally unrelated to Pale Moon and directly related to the Intel chipset in my 1000HE and the new drivers/kernels.

groucho@devuan:~$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel Resolution: 1024x600@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6
groucho@devuan:~$

The fellow who posted the fix actually found it while looking for something else, unrelated to Pale Moon.
So when he came across the Pale Moon thread, decided to share it with the forum.

The references to the fix he found are these:

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/hardware/intel-video-driver
and
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/In … SNA_issues

Apparently the default acceleration method, called sna, can cause issues when using older intel chipsets. An alternative is to use the older acceleration method, uxa.
To do this, I followed the instructions in the links I posted above:
Created a file (as root) called /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf with the following contents:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "intel"
Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
EndSection

I followed the instructions to the letter and the supposed Pale Moon issue ceased to exist. =-)

I had also been having some pointer lag problems on the desktop, not as severe as the ones with Pale Moon (a nuisance nevertheless) which at first I adscribed to the unit's touchpad or the Bluetooth mouse but now I see that they were related to the Intel chipset/driver configuration.

I'm posting it all this here as a heads-up and a future reference to anyone wanting to revive their Asus EeePCs.

But the merit belongs 100% to the original poster at the Pale Moon forum.

Cheers,

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

Ron wrote:

... using Pale Moon for years and love it.
... post here (in off topic I suppose). I usually visit this forum ...

Will do.
Thank you.

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

golinux wrote:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=141900
and
http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenod … 5.log.html

Thanks a lot.

Installed Pale Moon and uBlock Origin + a No Coin file that works with it.
It all works, for the time being.

Big bonus is that the interface is not screwed up.

If this setup really works as I need, I am seriously thinking of not going back to Mozilla Firefox.

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Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That's interesting, you have two entries for the same device, no idea why

The display appears to be working fine, so that would be something to look at later on.
Maybe it has to do with the 1000HE's vga port?

In any case, the issue in this post was mainly related to eeepc_wmi.

I have searched the web and traced the problem to a bug in linux-source-4.9 kernel due to a regression apparently caused by this patch:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … ?h=v4.9.51

It seems that it is the same as this, but [sort of] explained:

https://git.amelchem.com/amel/linux/com … 573777c6ac

If legacy device (SB.ATKD - ASUS010) used by eeepc-laptop
is enabled, don't allow eeepc-wmi to load because:
- eeepc-laptop may be loaded, and can conflict with
eeepc-wmi (they both try to register eeepc::touchpad
led for example).
- the WMI interface is inteded to be used when the OS is
not detected as Win 7. And when this is the case, the
ASUS010 device is disabled.

Edit

Apparently the ASUS010 device is the EEEPC Hotkey set.

See

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/ … c-laptop.c

#define EEEPC_LAPTOP_VERSION "0.1"
#define EEEPC_LAPTOP_NAME "Eee PC Hotkey Driver"
#define EEEPC_LAPTOP_FILE "eeepc"
#define EEEPC_ACPI_CLASS "hotkey"
#define EEEPC_ACPI_DEVICE_NAME "Hotkey"
#define EEEPC_ACPI_HID "ASUS010"

/Edit

Here's the original bug report from 20170920:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=876303

Here's what apparently needs to be done, no idea though.

"So I removed the 'use acpi_dev_found' patch from my kernel source, and without
this patch eeepc_wmi is loaded successfully, and all fn+ buttons working with
this netbook without acpi_os=Linux extra boot parameter"

And this is the last post in the bug report darted 20180301:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =876303#28

I've written to the author of the last post and apparently the bug is still there.

I have to get some live 32bit distro with a 5.0 kernel to see if it has been fixed but I am not holding my breath.

Looks like a bug originated in what was probably (?) a hastily applied patch.
It would be nice if the same haste would be applied to rolling it back. No?

Any ideas welcome (blacklisting something, etc.).

Cheers,

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Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

I use Mozilla Firefox 55, an outdated version.
I do it for a very good reason.

Beside the newer interfaces being utter crap, the specific reason is that with this version I can still use three add-ons that I find very important to have while on-line.

1. No Coin
2. Privacy Badger
3. UBlock Origin

I have managed perfectly well up to now with no issues whatsoever but this afternoon I find that they have been disabled.

When I go to Tools > Add-ons I see that each of the extensions has a legend saying "... could not be verified for muse in Firefox and has been disabled."

Does anyone know what the holy fuck is going on here?

I do not allow automatic upgrades or addons from anyone unless specifically done by me.
So how has this happened?

And most important, how can this crap be overridden?

Thanks in advance.

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Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

What does the plain lspci -knn report about your graphics card?

Much more.
And about the other hardware too.
Here you go ...

groucho@devuan:~$ lspci -knn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Memory Controller Hub [8086:27ac] (rev 03)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GSE Express Memory Controller Hub [1043:8340]

--->
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27ae] (rev 03)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:8340]
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915
00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27a6] (rev 03)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:8340]
<---

00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [1043:834a]
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
	Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 02)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 2 [8086:27d2] (rev 02)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 4 [8086:27d6] (rev 02)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.3 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:27cb] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
	Kernel modules: ehci_pci
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:27b9] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
	Kernel modules: intel_rng, lpc_ich, leds_ss4200
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller [8086:27df] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
	Kernel modules: ata_piix, ata_generic
00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [IDE mode] [8086:27c4] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [IDE mode] [1043:830f]
	Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
	Kernel modules: ata_piix, ata_generic
01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe [1814:0781]
	Subsystem: AzureWave RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe [1a3b:1059]
	Kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
	Kernel modules: rt2800pci
03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet [1969:1026] (rev b0)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet [1043:8324]
	Kernel driver in use: ATL1E
	Kernel modules: atl1e
groucho@devuan:~$

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Oh, and leave that poor cat(1) alone:
grep -i _OS dsdt.dsl

There's more than one way to skin a cat. =-)
I still have to polish my command line.
Thanks for the tip.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

You could try clearing the string by using
acpi_osi=

This is what I get using acpi_osi= in the kernel line.

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep eeepc
[    6.284913] eeepc_laptop: Eee PC Hotkey Driver
[    6.285177] eeepc_laptop: Hotkey init flags 0x41
[    6.286378] eeepc_laptop: TYPE (2000000) not reported by BIOS, enabling anyway
[    6.292166] eeepc_laptop: PANELPOWER (4000000) not reported by BIOS, enabling anyway
[    6.292281] eeepc_laptop: Get control methods supported: 0x6101713
[    6.293219] input: Asus EeePC extra buttons as /devices/platform/eeepc/input/input7

--- from here down were already there ---  

[    7.878347] eeepc_wmi: Found legacy ATKD device (ASUS010)
[    7.884493] eeepc_wmi: WMI device present, but legacy ATKD device is also present and enabled
[    7.890126] eeepc_wmi: You probably booted with acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009"
[    7.895852] eeepc_wmi: Can't load eeepc-wmi, use default acpi_osi (preferred) or eeepc-laptop
[    7.901709] eeepc-wmi: probe of eeepc-wmi failed with error -16
[    8.559056] eeepc_laptop: Unable to find port
groucho@devuan:~$

Just FYI, the options I got from disassembling dsdt.dat are these:

groucho@devuan:~/dsdt$ cat dsdt.dsl | grep -i _OS
        If (CondRefOf (_OSI, Local1))
            If (_OSI ("Windows 2000"))
            If (_OSI ("Windows 2001"))
            If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP1"))
            If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP2"))
            If (_OSI ("Windows 2001.1"))
            If (_OSI ("Windows 2001.1 SP1"))
            If (_OSI ("Windows 2006"))

        ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft Windows NT"))
            If (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft WindowsME: Millennium Edition"))
            If (MCTH (_OS, "Linux"))
                            If (CondRefOf (_OSI, Local0))
                                If (_OSI ("Windows 2001"))
                                If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP1"))
                                If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP2"))
                                If (_OSI ("Windows 2006"))
                                If (_OSI ("Windows 2009"))   
                                If (_OSI ("Linux"))
                            ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft Windows"))
                            ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft WindowsME: Millennium Edition"))
                            ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft Windows NT"))

groucho@devuan:~/dsdt$

The kernel is evidently seeing something somewhere that is indicating acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009".
That said, the default acpi_osi (preferred) or eeepc-laptop entires are not in the dsdt file.

I'll have to run some tests and see what happens.

Can you post

lspci -knn | grep -iA2 'vga\|3d\|display'

It returns nothing.

I seem to recall having seen something about ASUS010 somewhere once ...
I'll have a look and see what I can find.

Thanks for your input.

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

I have recently installed Devuan 32 bit ASCII on my (old but trusty) Asus 1000HE, in preparation for (eventually) ridding myself of the present XP installation which I still use for some things like tax returns and coffee roasting software.

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.9.0-9-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12) i686 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$

For the moment Devuan boots from an SD Card holding grub while the rest of the installaton is on the HD.
This allows me to boot into XD when I need to and at the same time not have to mess with the drive's mbr.

The rig works (quite) well and the hardware is holding up almost as well as my Palm IIIxe's. (!)
Unfortunately, one of the USB ports has a broken tab so there's some surgery ahead.

---
I am really very thankful for having a 32bit systemd free installation such as Devuan available, hopefully 32bit support will continue for a few years.
---

I've been going though the logs to see what needs tuning/unloading/fixing as this Atom N280@166/2Gb RAM system needs not be unduly taxed.
eg: there are no serial, parallel or PS/2 ports, among other things which are loading modules.

There are also some things that I use every so often but are not working properly, eg: Asus hot keys.

One thing I have found in dmesg is this:

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i eee
[    8.043608] eeepc_wmi: Found legacy ATKD device (ASUS010)
[    8.043690] eeepc_wmi: WMI device present, but legacy ATKD device is also present and enabled
[    8.043784] eeepc_wmi: You probably booted with acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009"      <---- ???
[    8.043877] eeepc_wmi: Can't load eeepc-wmi, use default acpi_osi (preferred) or eeepc-laptop
[    8.043977] eeepc-wmi: probe of eeepc-wmi failed with error -16
groucho@devuan:~$

The thing is that my kernel command line does not have acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009".

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg
--- snip ---
[    0.000000] Kernel command line:  BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-9-686-pae root=UUID=24b98eaa-bf67-4746-a866-473cac307016 ro ipv6.disable=1 enable_mtrr_cleanup
--- /snip ---

So ...
What is to be done with this?

I have not been able to find out just what a legacy ATKD device is.

Combing through lshw I did find an unclaimed device:

        *-display:1 UNCLAIMED
             description: Display controller
             product: Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
             version: 03
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: memory:f7f80000-f7ffffff

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Try ...

Neat ... =-D!

Thanks for the tip.

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

PedroReina wrote:

... the mantainer of the package xfce4 dont agree ...

We may be drifting off topic here ...

But jo make my position clear: I'm not nocking Linux or Devuan, quite the contrary.

It is just that (IMO) what XFCE does by forcing the installation of (unneeded) Orage and on top of that, making it impossible to uninstall without also uninstalling XFCE altogether is contrary to the basic philosophy behind Linux:

------------------- > Do one thing and do it well.

There are other programs/maintainers that do this same sort of thing.
Must have all learnt how to do it at the Redmond Academy. 8-D!!!

PedroReina wrote:

Different opinions, not big deal ...

Well ...
It's the same type of different opinion than generated the need for Devuan.
systemd is also a different opinion on how to do things and also contrary to the basic philosophy behind Linux.

PedroReina wrote:

... is very simple: not install the package xfce4 ...

Just what I am doing: openbox and tint2 work quite well for the time being.

PedroReina wrote:

... point Altoid talk about is very important for me.

It is of the utmost importance, not only to both of us but for how Linux will continue to develop.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Best,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... can't really install such a configuration without already having a configuration ...

Indeed !!! LoL
Only after a good while did I realise how dumb my question was.
ie:
You have to know where the source is to know where the source is.
A chicken or egg? thing. 8-/

So when I got home I cp'd the sources.list file from my other desktop setup to /etc/apt and that was it.

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... assuming your can trust it ...

Hmmm ...
For all my Devuan things I trust only Devuan sources.
Or ones that have been adequately verified by other derived distributions/groups.

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... of highest importance security-wise that the machine administrator knows exactly what the "apt sub system" configuration is.
There is no escape from putting enough cognitive effort into learning it.

Quite so ...
For all my Linux experiences, I have (almost) always used synaptic, but with this installation on my trusty 1000HE, I have been rather enjoying the command line once again.
Reminds me of my long gone DOS days and hopefully I'll be able to pick up the pace soon enough.

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... includes the "pinning" aspect, which is configured in the /etc/apt/preferences.d/* files, and the "general apt parameters" of /etc/apt/apt.conf and the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* files.

Right. Duly noted, thanks for the heads up.
Hopefully I'll one day be able to do anything on the command line in Linux. =-)

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... devised at a time when the nuances of "trust" were less developed ...
... totally off parity with its importance.

Maybe that will change one day, if we all put enough behind that notion.
There's too much bad influence out there, convenience seems to have become the word.

Thanks for your input.

A.

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