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#1726 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome flashback session failed to launch. » 2021-02-18 15:51:03

AhmadRaniri wrote:

tried to launch it via custom .xinitrc

Please share the contents of that file.

AhmadRaniri wrote:

ended up with "Oh no! Something has gone wrong"'s greeting

Check the X.Org log file to see the actual error messages.

AhmadRaniri wrote:

Tried with DM (lightDM / slim) still give same error.

Check the log files for those display managers.

#1727 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SLIM session issue when log-out and log-in » 2021-02-18 15:44:55

dice wrote:

but startx still needs needs_root_rights=yes in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config via the package xserver-xorg-legacy

No, it doesn't. That hasn't been a requirement for quite some time now.

See also https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch … uires-root

EDIT: Devuan may have needed that before it started using elogind but beowulf certainly doesn't need it (I've tested this in the live environment).

#1728 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to get a working jessie sources.list » 2021-02-17 19:26:56

If you want help then you should probably open your own thread.

But anyway Debian jessie reached EOL on June 30th last year so you probably shouldn't bother with Devuan jessie.

#1729 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SLIM session issue when log-out and log-in » 2021-02-17 19:17:46

It's better to use startx because that runs X under the normal user. LightDM runs X under the root user, which is *much* worse.

#1730 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Genuine question regarding devuan, » 2021-02-17 19:16:33

zapper wrote:

is there a way to make elogind behave when I use xfce4?

I'm pretty sure elogind works just fine with Xfce because that's what the live ISO image uses.

Please post my requested terminal output.

#1731 Re: Other Issues » apt thinks its only sources are the installation CD/DVD » 2021-02-16 18:28:47

Any other sources?

grep -v '^#\|^$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}

#1732 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Genuine question regarding devuan, » 2021-02-16 18:25:19

dice wrote:

sounds like maybe elogind is not set up correctly?

^ This.

@OP: check

loginctl session-status

#1734 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Windows 10 entry in boot menu; is Grub to blame? » 2021-02-12 23:01:28

nobodyuknow wrote:

I deleted the relevant section for Window 10 in /boot/grub/grub.cfg.

It will be re-added next time the kernel is updated if the Windows drive is connected.

You can exclude specific partitions by adding this to /etc/default/grub:

GRUB_OS_PROBER_SKIP_LIST="$uuid"

Replace $uuid with the actual UUID of the partition that holds Windows (use blkid to list the UUIDs of all connected drives). To exclude more than one partition make a list inside the quotation marks with each UUID separated by a space.

#1735 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Wicd Network Manager on MATE is unreliable » 2021-02-12 22:54:22

nobodyuknow wrote:

disabling hardware encryption seems a bit much

It will fall back to software-based encryption, which can be more reliable.

#1736 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Windows 10 entry in boot menu; is Grub to blame? » 2021-02-12 22:25:24

nobodyuknow wrote:

Does Linux automatically run Grub on every boot? Is it when Grub is updated?

Debian-based distributions will update the GRUB configuration when the kernel is updated.

EDIT: post 1337! The leet post! big_smile

EDIT2: that's it, I can't post here any more. So long and thanks for all the fish.

#1737 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-02-12 22:20:06

gmni package here: https://software.opensuse.org//download … ckage=gmni

@OP: I like your capsule but EMACS? Really? #vimftw tongue

#1738 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-02-12 17:00:33

Try

# apt install libssl-dev

EDIT: corrected advice.

#1739 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Wicd Network Manager on MATE is unreliable » 2021-02-12 16:00:55

For Ralink perhaps try disabling hardware encryption on the card:

# modprobe -r rt2800pci
# modprobe rt2800pci nohwcrypt=1

If that helps then make it permanent with

# tee /etc/modprobe.d/fix-ralink.conf <<<'options rt2800pci nohwcrypt=1'

The precise module depends on the card though so use lscpi -k and check the kernel driver in use line for the card, if that isn't rt2800pci then use the correct module name instead.

#1740 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-02-12 15:41:21

andyprough wrote:

I'd like to get a recommendation for a gemini client.

Drew DeVault has one: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/gmni

Looks pretty simple to install manually. I can make up a package for it if you want.

More options here: https://gemini.circumlunar.space/clients.html

#1741 Re: Other Issues » Runit » 2021-02-11 12:43:42

Yes, of course, silly me. Thanks and sorry for the noise.

#1742 Re: Other Issues » Runit » 2021-02-11 11:10:39

Lorenzo wrote:

from the system that i'm using for live testing

If you don't mind me asking, which desktop are you using?

Thank you very much for your efforts, they are very much appreciated.

#1743 Re: Installation » When ZFS 2 is backported to Debian10 and therefore Devuan Beowulf too? » 2021-02-11 11:08:21

bimon wrote:

Is not OpenZFS v2 fork of ZFS on Linux the most up to date and only one which actually gets any recent development?

ZoL is now the only open source version that is receiving significant development but Solaris ZFS (which is now proprietary) is also developed and still has some features missing from ZoL such as sequential resilver, better deduplication, device and vdev removal. Roughly 50% of the original Solaris code has been replaced in ZoL. Only Solaris really know what they're doing with ZFS though because they created it.

And yes, OpenIndiana appear to use ZoL as well. TIL.

#1744 Re: Installation » When ZFS 2 is backported to Debian10 and therefore Devuan Beowulf too? » 2021-02-11 09:09:28

bimon wrote:

an approximated not obligatory estimate of when can we expect OpenZFS v2.x in Devuan Beowulf backports?

As soon as it is available from buster-backports :-)

The last release (v0.8.6) was backported 5 days after it transitioned to testing and the current version landed in testing 5 days ago so...

bimon wrote:

Do you have any experience with the latest OpenZFS v2.x?

No. ZoL is a hacky mess, the only true ZFS implementation is the Solaris version.

EDIT: have you tried OpenIndiana?

#1745 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » ARM Cortex-A9 » 2021-02-10 19:03:51

I think that's armhf but I'm sure tuxd3v will correct me if I'm wrong :-)

#1746 Re: Installation » appimages? » 2021-02-08 21:58:25

pootler wrote:

I might just leave this

If you are suffering with the "metapackage problem" then you could find most of your desktop removed if you don't pay close attention to package management.

Is anything slated for autoremoval?

apt --simulate autoremove

If that command gives a list of packages then read the link I supplied in my last post and open a new thread if you can't figure out how to fix things. If the command doesn't list anything then just ignore this post.

#1747 Re: Installation » appimages? » 2021-02-08 13:25:34

pootler wrote:

I tried to install gnome keyring using synaptic.

it said in order to install this it had to remove - a long list of stuff?

In fact this list was so long I didn't do it - it even included xfce4  stuff, and other appimages I have that work fine? - whats going on there!

Sounds like http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=104157

Can we see

apt install --simulate gnome-keyring

Might be best to open another thread about this though.

#1748 Re: Installation » appimages? » 2021-02-08 11:39:41

Just install the gnome-keyring package and see if that fixes things.

#1749 Re: Other Issues » Devuan runlevels » 2021-02-07 16:48:50

mweishaar wrote:

when were runlevels 2-5 made the same?

AFAIK runlevels 2-5 have always been the same in Debian but I've only been using it since wheezy so I might be wrong.

Reference: https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel

But note that in Debian under systemd runlevels 2,3 & 4 are simulated as multi-user.target (which is a console-only boot) whereas runlevel 5 is simulated as graphical.target (which is a graphical boot):

$ ls -l /lib/systemd/system/runlevel?.target 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jan 29 14:16 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel0.target -> poweroff.target
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jan 29 14:16 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel1.target -> rescue.target
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jan 29 14:16 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel2.target -> multi-user.target
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jan 29 14:16 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target -> multi-user.target
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jan 29 14:16 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel4.target -> multi-user.target
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jan 29 14:16 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel5.target -> graphical.target
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jan 29 14:16 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel6.target -> reboot.target
$

#1750 Re: Off-topic » Question about Linux kernel (as relates to systemd) » 2021-02-07 15:39:46

So in what way does the Linux kernel follow the Unix principle of "do one thing and do it well"?

Do you not agree that the kernel is even more monolithic and bloated than systemd?

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