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#1701 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown problem - e1000 driver bug? » 2018-12-17 23:18:25

Hello:

While waiting to see if anyone here had a clue about this, I was able to find a few leads.

It seems that the problem is related to the Intel e1000e driver, WoL and the EEE settings on the e1000e on-board NIC.

My rig's BIOS has no setting to disable WoL or the on board Gbe for that matter. (!)

I am disabling WoL at boot with a line in /etc/rc.local

#!/bin/sh -e
#
# rc.local
#
# This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.
# Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other
# value on error.
#
# In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
# bits.
#
# By default this script does nothing.
#
# Disable WoL - 20181212
/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol d
exit 0

It survives a reboot and disconnecting/connecting the interface while logged in.
But it has not been enough as the problem subsists.

Seeing that this involved the e1000e: EEE Tx LPI Timer, I searched and found this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy-Efficient_Ethernet

My guess was that if the EEE TX LPI timer was what was giving me trouble (?), turning it off would do away with the issue.

Searching around I found this on the web:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … n-ethernet

It seems that this EEE thing is also a source of grief to others.
So I tried seeing what the EEE setting was for my on-board NIC using ethtool:

[root@devuan groucho]# ethtool --show-eee eth0
Cannot get EEE settings: Operation not supported
[root@devuan groucho]#

Just to try and see, I attempted to turn EEE off:

[root@devuan groucho]# ethtool --set-eee eth0  eee off
Cannot get EEE settings: Operation not supported

From the last link it seems that the EEE settings can be modified with the Windows driver but not with the Linux driver, at least not using ethtool.

Which was really unexpected. 8 ^/

The ethtool version installed in Devuan is 4.8 (20161004)

[root@devuan groucho]# ethtool -h | grep version
ethtool version 4.8
[root@devuan groucho]#

The latest available version is 4.19 (20181102)

The installed e1000e driver version is 3.2.6-k and it has SmartPowerDown enabled, apparently by default. (?)

[root@devuan groucho]# modinfo e1000e
filename:       /lib/modules/4.9.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/e1000e.ko
version:        3.2.6-k
license:        GPL
description:    Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver
author:         Intel Corporation, <linux.nics@intel.com>
srcversion:     5EA033004005330EC3218BD
alias:          pci:v00008086d000015D6sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
---- snip ---
depends:        ptp
retpoline:      Y
intree:         Y
vermagic:       4.9.0-8-amd64 SMP mod_unload modversions 
parm:           debug:Debug level (0=none,...,16=all) (int)
parm:           copybreak:Maximum size of packet that is copied to a new buffer on receive (uint)
parm:           TxIntDelay:Transmit Interrupt Delay (array of int)
parm:           TxAbsIntDelay:Transmit Absolute Interrupt Delay (array of int)
parm:           RxIntDelay:Receive Interrupt Delay (array of int)
parm:           RxAbsIntDelay:Receive Absolute Interrupt Delay (array of int)
parm:           InterruptThrottleRate:Interrupt Throttling Rate (array of int)
parm:           IntMode:Interrupt Mode (array of int)
parm:           SmartPowerDownEnable:Enable PHY smart power down (array of int)
parm:           KumeranLockLoss:Enable Kumeran lock loss workaround (array of int)
parm:           WriteProtectNVM:Write-protect NVM [WARNING: disabling this can lead to corrupted NVM] (array of int)
parm:           CrcStripping:Enable CRC Stripping, disable if your BMC needs the CRC (array of int)
[root@devuan groucho]#

Any ideas as to how to get around this?
Turning off the EEE feature is the only thing I can think of now.

But how?
Maybe I need the latest version of ethtool and/or the latest version of the Intel driver but they are not available in the Devuan repo.

EDIT:

This is the specific on-board hardware in my Ultra24 rig:

[root@devuan groucho]# lspci | grep -i ethernet
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)
[root@devuan groucho]# 

This is the latest version of the Intel e1000e driver:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downlo … duct=34459

---
For Intel® 82566DM Gigabit Ethernet PHY
Intel® Network Adapter Driver for PCIe* Intel® Gigabit Ethernet Network Connections Under Linux*
Version: 3.4.2.1 (Latest) Date: 8/26/2018
---

Can an update to this driver be requested to the maintainers?
If not, how can the download from Intel be installed in Devuan ASCII?

Thanks in advance.

A.

#1702 Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown problem - e1000 driver bug? » 2018-12-05 20:05:34

Altoid
Replies: 3

Hello:

My Sun Microsystems Ultra24 rig has a problem which up to now I’ve chalked up to a crap BIOS.
It happened with the previous original version it came with and with this one, which is the latest one available.

I'm on Devuan latest:

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$ 
[root@devuan groucho]# apt-get update
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii InRelease
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates InRelease [25.6 kB]
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease
Fetched 25.6 kB in 5s (4944 B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
[root@devuan groucho]#
[root@devuan groucho]# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[root@devuan groucho]# 
[root@devuan groucho]# 
[root@devuan groucho]# apt-get check
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
[root@devuan groucho]# 

Description:

On shutdown, the rig will do one of three things:

1. shut down properly
2. shut down properly and after about 5s. reboot start reboot and freeze
3. freeze during the shutdown at this point ...

e1000e: EEE Tx LPI Timer
Preparing to enter sleep state S5
Reboot: Power Down 

… with the fans blowing at full speed.
 
This happens ocasionally and I have not been able to reliably reproduce the behaviour, no idea what causes it.
It happened when I only had wireless access ie: before I had a wired connection and it also happens now.

Unfortunately, there’s no way of disabling the on board e1000e controller (you see, as this Sun MoBo has IME, that would be a no-no).

Could it be that (at least part of the issue) is caused by this bug:

https://sourceforge.net/p/e1000/mailman … e/34986431

Apparently it was solved from kernel 3.16.49 on, but the behaviour is very similar.

See:
https://www.systutorials.com/linux-kern … ux-3-16-49

My power settings (Xfce Power Manager) are:

General
When power button is pressed: Shutdown
When sleep button is pressed:  Do nothing
When hibernate button is pressed: Do nothing

System
System sleep mode: Suspend
Put sytem to sleep when inactive for: Never

This also happened with other distros I have tried before settling here with Devuan.
Previous owner of the rig used a a Gates OS but I don’t think he would have mentioned this anyway.

I have not found a way to log what is happening so as to be able to get a better idea of what is happening.
I’d appreciate any suggestions you may have as this is a real PITA.

Thanks in advance.

A.

#1703 Re: Other Issues » ACPI error at start-up » 2018-11-17 19:25:00

Hello:

Sevilla.Larry wrote:

I'm new to Devuan.

Welcome.

Sevilla.Larry wrote:

[  1.160064] ACPI Error: [DSSP] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psargs-359)
[  1.160228] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PCIO.SAT0.SPT0._GTF] (Node ffff9ebb96dc8b40), AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psparse-543)

I've been getting this forever, with any distro I've tried.
And on an older, very different rig: a Sun Ultra24 WS on Intel Q9550 w/8Gb:

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i error
[    0.145089] ACPI Error: [SUPP] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psargs-359)
[    0.145099] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB._OSC] (Node ffff9897731b8000), AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psparse-543)
groucho@devuan:~$ 

By now, it seems to be a standard issue warning about a kernel whatever that will not ever be fixed because it's (apparently) harmless.
See they have the same (20160831/psargs-359) and (20160831/psparse-543) tags.

Linux has quite a few of those and ACPI/crap BIOS combos are probably one of the main culprits.

Cheers,

A.

#1704 Installation » CUPS error_log inconsistency » 2018-10-31 22:15:56

Altoid
Replies: 0

Hello:

As I solved a problem I had with my CUPS configuration, I went to check if it had indeed been solved.

So:

[root@devuan groucho]# tail /var/log/cups/error_log
W [31/Oct/2018:17:57:35 -0300] Max clients reached, holding new connections...
W [31/Oct/2018:17:57:35 -0300] Max clients reached, holding new connections...
W [31/Oct/2018:17:57:35 -0300] Max clients reached, holding new connections...
W [31/Oct/2018:17:57:35 -0300] CreateProfile failed: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id \'Samsung_M2020_Series-Gray..\' already exists
E [31/Oct/2018:17:57:35 -0300] Unable to open listen socket for address [v1.::1]:631 - Address family not supported by protocol.
W [31/Oct/2018:18:03:30 -0300] CreateProfile failed: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id \'Samsung_M2020_Series-Gray..\' already exists
E [31/Oct/2018:18:05:30 -0300] Unable to communicate with avahi-daemon: Daemon not running
W [31/Oct/2018:18:15:31 -0300] CreateProfile failed: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id \'Samsung_M2020_Series-Gray..\' already exists
E [31/Oct/2018:18:15:31 -0300] Unable to open listen socket for address [v1.::1]:631 - Address family not supported by protocol.
W [31/Oct/2018:18:17:42 -0300] CreateProfile failed: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id \'Samsung_M2020_Series-Gray..\' already exists

But when I went to check again, this time with Leafpad through the File Manager, I got this:

[root@devuan groucho]# leafpad /var/log/cups/error_log
leafpad wrote:

E [18/Jun/2018:14:44:57 -0300] [Client 7] Request from "localhost" using invalid Host: field "[v1.::1]:631".
W [18/Jun/2018:14:44:59 -0300] Notifier for subscription 6 (dbus://) went away, retrying!
E [18/Jun/2018:14:49:28 -0300] [Client 7] Request from "localhost" using invalid Host: field "[v1.::1]:631".
E [18/Jun/2018:17:17:36 -0300] [Client 10] Request from "localhost" using invalid Host: field "[v1.::1]:631".
W [18/Jun/2018:17:17:37 -0300] Notifier for subscription 2 (dbus://) went away, retrying!
W [18/Jun/2018:17:17:37 -0300] Notifier for subscription 4 (dbus://) went away, retrying!
W [18/Jun/2018:17:17:37 -0300] Notifier for subscription 6 (dbus://) went away, retrying!

Now, I am looking (?) at the same file ...

/var/log/cups/error_log

... and there's only one:

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo updatedb
groucho@devuan:~$ locate error_log
/var/log/cups/error_log
groucho@devuan:~$ 

Any idea just what is going on here?

Thanks in advance.

A.

#1705 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-31 19:52:48

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

Like I explained previously, I've been able to reproduce the conditions for this to happen.
ie: on the first site I open (first tab, no matter which site) on a freshly loaded Firefox.

Well ...
It all seemed to be so previsible.
But no.

Just a while I got back home and on booting up, I launched Pegasus Mail (which I run off Wine).
I was expecting the usual lag in starting up it developed some time ago (have not found the real cause) and lo/behold: no lag.

No idea how/why.

Then I launched Firefox.
I was also expecting to have to open my first page on a parallel tab so as to avoid the right-click problem this thread is about.
But no. It behaved correctly.

I exited Firefox and launched it again to check and sure enough, there is was again.

Coincidences may (as some people believe) very well exist but I do not think this is so in the realm of IT.

I'll have to boot/reboot a few times to check out if I can now reproduce this same sequence and verify a link between these two separate events.
If I can (?) maybe this odd mouse behaviour has a deeper, system based origin but at first sight I fail to see how that could be.

---
Edit:
The issue with PMail, related to a CUPS mis-configuration and the program looking for a printer when launched, has been solved.
So it was a coincidence.

There's no link between that and the odd mouse behaviour this thread is about.
---

Still, any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

A.

#1706 Re: Installation » Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99 » 2018-10-29 23:29:31

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:
apt-get -t ascii-backports install sylpheed

That did it.
Thanks a lot.

But (for some unknown reason) still no 'selective download' feature in this version.
It's been in the FAQ for the longest time, at least 2005 and a very useful feature.

---
1.30 C30 How does selective download work?

A. There are two ways using it.
1. Manually: Open "Tools/Selective download" and choose "Fetch" to
retrieve the mail headers. Afterwards, select the mails to delete and pres
the remove button.

2. Automatic: Create a -global- filtering rule to delete mails on
server. If you then choose "Selective download", all mails that
conform to this rule are marked for deletion.

Note: By default, selective download only retrieves new (unread)
messages. If you want to process the read mails also, you need to set
"retrieve all messages".
---

I've sent Yamamoto an e-mail asking about this.
Maybe it's an option when compiling?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Cheers,

A.

#1707 Re: Installation » Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99 » 2018-10-29 23:21:26

Hello:

golinux wrote:

... surprised that http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ is still functional...

It is.  =-)

golinux wrote:

... now we have our own in-house version.
amprolla3 has a way of redirecting to Debian that might have stumped both those searches.

OK. Note taken.

golinux wrote:

Links to https://pkginfo.devuan.org are all over ...

Must have slipped me.
And I was so happy with the package browser.  8^D!

Thanks.

A.

#1708 Re: Installation » Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99 » 2018-10-29 22:24:47

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Our pkginfo.devuan.org comes in handy.

Thanks for the info.

But I was using the package browser page: http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ and could not find it.
Then I used SPM with the http://deb.devuan.org/merged/  ascii-backports  main contrib non-free repository checked and it did not show up either.

What am I missing?

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1709 Re: Installation » Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99 » 2018-10-29 21:16:58

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

Ascii backports has 3.7.0-3~bpo9+1.

Can't find it in http://deb.devuan.org/merged/  ascii-backports  main contrib non-free.

Is that the right repo?

fsmithred wrote:

...  unless I needed some feature in the backports version.

Yes.
The version in the repo does not seem to have the 'selective download' feature.

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1710 Re: Installation » Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99 » 2018-10-29 14:28:40

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

Where is 3.6.99 coming from?

No idea ...
I just get the pop-up saying there's a new version available.

fsmithred wrote:

Ascii backports has 3.7.0-3~bpo9+1.

Didn't know that.
Thanks.

fsmithred wrote:

... don't know if sylpheed is like firefox and thunderbird that can just be downloaded ...

Basically, that's why I asked.

fsmithred wrote:

I'd go for the backports version ...

OK.
Makes sense to use the available repo.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1711 Re: Off-topic » IBM is acquiring Red Hat! » 2018-10-29 14:08:27

Hello:

Ron wrote:

Should we consider this as good news or bad news? Or neutral news?

Really?
Need to ask?

Man, this is a bummer.
Bad, bad, bad news...

Indeed, we are living in interesting times.

Cheers,

A.

#1712 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-29 14:04:33

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

... but it has happened in firefox.
... the problem is caused by movement of the mouse when right-clicking.

Hmm ...
No, I thought so the first two or three times.
But no, it isn't.
Besides, I had already taken my morning pill.  8^D!

fsmithred wrote:

Normally, if you right-click and release, the context menu stays open.

Yes.
But that's exactly what is not happening.

Like I explained previously, I've been able to reproduce the conditions for this to happen.
ie: on the first site I open (first tab, no matter which site) on a freshly loaded Firefox.

fsmithred wrote:

... right click and drag the mouse to highlight an item in the menu and then release ...

That's how I have been coping with the problem.
Now I just reopen the same page on another tab and the problem is gone.
And if I do not exit Firefox, the probem will not return.

fsmithred wrote:

... pretty sure I was not careful with the mouse ...

I've slammed mine on the desktop more than once.
But it has not tried to bite me (yet).

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1713 Installation » Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99 » 2018-10-29 11:54:48

Altoid
Replies: 9

Hello:

I am (sort of) considering moving from 20+ years use of my much loved Pegasus Mail (which I use under Wine) to Sylpheed.
But I want to test it thoroughly before I consider it seriously, lest I make a move I will regret.

I guess I am (like most people) a creature of habit: I have learned to work with Pmail and it has done very well by me.
Unfortunately, PMail is not open source / FOSS and it seems will not ever be ported to Linux.
And I feel I have to move on.

Upon starting Sylpheed for the first time, at some time during the configuration process, I get a pop-up with the notice of a nnewer available version, 3.6.99.

Seeing that the version available in the repo is 3.5.1+2+b1, should I stay with this one or go ahead and update it before setting it up for testing?
Is there any reason (besides available maintainer testing/packaging time needed) I should not update to the latest version available?

Please advise.

Best,

A.

#1714 Re: Installation » [Solved] Leafpad 0.8.18.1 and conversion to 'ANSI_X3.4-1968' » 2018-10-27 21:26:32

Hello:

spartrekus wrote:

Leafpad has several bugs ...

I have found Leafpad to be, although usupported, really very good and lightweight.
Deserves a better fate ...

I found the solution here:

https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=36196#p47860

In my case, I just opened the launcher: Applications -> Accesories -> right-click on Leafpad to edit.

Changed the command line from leafpad %f to leafpad --codeset UTF-8 %f and saved.

Now, everytime I open a text file, it will save the document with the UTF-8 codeset by default.
It just happens that the hard coded default is ANSI_X3.4-1968, no bug to splat! there.    =^D 

Cheers,

A.

#1715 Installation » [Solved] LibreOffice - non-English language locales and tilde » 2018-10-27 20:44:59

Altoid
Replies: 0

Hello:

I'm posting this for those who use non-English language locales in their Devuan installation. 

I had been trying for the longest while to find a solution to a keyboard/locale related problem that was affecting my LibreOffice installation.
I had checked that both the locale and keyboard layout were properly set but could find no other setting that could be changed to solve the issue.

As I write in both Spanish, English and once every so often in French, this was beginning to annoy me.
The idea is that I should be able to type at least all these characters during the normal use of my kb:

á é í ó ú - à è ì ò ù - â ê î ô û - ä ë ï ö ü - ç ñ 

Á É Í Ó Ú - À È Ì Ò Ù - Â Ê Î Ô Û - Ä Ë Ï Ö Ü - Ç Ñ

The problem was that (in LO and only in LO) even though I was able to type the letter ñ / Ñ which is unique to the Spanish alphabet, I was unable to add a tilde to any of the letters that carried one, whereas in every other application, from Leafpad to Master PDF Editor, even in the Firefox address bar, the problem did not occur.

I searched all over to no avail, coming across solutions that proposed adding the accents through the spell check (!) or with a macro.

Then I decided to do the search in Spanish instead of English (a duh! moment) and came across this page in the Archlinux Wiki:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Li … _(Español)

Obviously it's in Spanish but I'm sure there's an English version of it in the Wiki.

For whatever reason, it seems that the locale settings es_AR.ISO-8559-1 and es_AR.UTF-8 or es_ES.ISO-8859-1 and es_ES.UTF-8 are not enough for LO to be able to type characters with a tilde. (AR/ES = Argentina/Spain country codes)

You also have to set the en_US.ISO-8859-1 and en_US.UTF-8 locales to be able to do it even though these are not used in the English language.
It's a mystery to me.

I've only had time to test this with the SP and AR locales, but my guess is that it is probably (?)  the same thing with any other non-English language locales using ISO-8559-1 and UTF-8 latin-1 character sets.

Cheers,

A.

#1716 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-26 23:38:31

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Have you checked the usually useless .xsession-errors?

No, had not thought of looking there.

To check, I opened the .xsession-errors file, took note of the last entry line number and closed it.
Then I opened FF, generated the error and reopened .xsession-errors.

These are the new lines generated:

Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
1540594962814 addons.webextension.{5657c026-efc3-4860-b43b-16e4eaa8a9aa} WARN Please specify whether you want browser_style or not in your browser_action options.
1540594962832 addons.webextension.jid1-MnnxcxisBPnSXQ@jetpack WARN Please specify whether you want browser_style or not in your browser_action options.
Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".

The Xlib: lines are all over the place, I'd say over 75% of the file content is that specific line.
RANDR is disabled by the Nvidia proprietary drivers so it has a well known cause.     

groucho@devuan:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i RANDR
[    34.234] (WW) NVIDIA: Xinerama is enabled, so RandR has likely been disabled by the
[    37.011] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not registering RandR
[    37.011] (==) RandR enabled
[    37.100] (WW) NVIDIA(1): Not registering RandR
[    37.100] (==) RandR enabled
[    37.315] (WW) NVIDIA(2): Not registering RandR
[    37.315] (==) RandR enabled
groucho@devuan:~$ 

The other new lines are of evident browser/add-on origin

addons.webextension.{5657c026-efc3-4860-b43b-16e4eaa8a9aa} WARN Please specify whether you want browser_style or not in your browser_action options.
addons.webextension.jid1-MnnxcxisBPnSXQ@jetpackn WARN Please specify whether you want browser_style or not in your browser_action options.

I have a few addons in FF:

Calomel SSL Validation
No Coin
Privacy Badger
Squared Australis Tabs
UBlock Origin
YouTube ALL HTML5
YouTube Flash Player

When I searched the web for the 5657c026-efc3-4860-b43b-16e4eaa8a9aa, I came up with a apge with this mention:

---
Name: No Coin - Block miners on the web!
Version: 0.4.14
Enabled: true
ID: {5657c026-efc3-4860-b43b-16e4eaa8a9aa}
---

So I tried disabling No Coin to see if the problem went away but no, that did not keep the problem from happening.

A search for the jid1-MnnxcxisBPnSXQ@jetpackn string did not come up with an exact match, but I found partial matches and they are all linked to the Privacy Badger add-on.

Then I tried disabling Privacy Badger to see if the problem went away but no, that did not keep the problem from happening either. 

I then, tired of all this, disabled all the addons I have installed in FF, but still no cigar.  =^/

Will have to keep looking.
But where?

Thanks a lot for your input.

Best,

A.

#1717 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-26 21:53:49

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

... new setting makes things better and wait for the rest of the affected parties ...

No, the new setting does not alter the previous results.
But I seem to have been successful in reproducing the problem, at least in Firefox 55.0.3 64-bit.

This morning I booted up, opened up Firefox and went to read the IT news at https://www.theregister.co.uk/.
Sure enough, right-click to open a link brought about the dreaded right-click problem.

Just to test, I closed down FF and loaded it again and opened then same page, same thing.

Then I opened another site and that went well, so I asked myself if it could be a 'per web site' issue.
On a whim I opened up another tab with the same previously affected page and what happened?
The problem was gone but when I went back to the original affected page, the problem was still there.
ie: not being able to right-click to open a link or copy a selection. 

So, to see if I could recreate the problem I opened up two 'parallel' pages of other sites right after restarting FF.
I was able to: the first page has the problem, the second does not.

To describe the problem as accurately as possible:

The problem manifests itself (at least in FF 55.0.3 64-bit) on the first web page opened after a fresh load of the Firefox browser.
It does not do so in the same page opened in another tab.

If I open a previously affected page on yet another tab, it is also unaffected.

If I close all tabs, both affected and unaffected pages, and reopen them, the problem does not show up again until I close and reopen FF.

It does not matter it it a fresh boot or not, just a freshly loaded FF.

I'd appreciate some feedback from other Firefox users to see if it is just a Firefox 55.0.3 64-bit issue or if it affects later versions also.
Ever since these DHs at Mozilla came up with those ridiculous rounded tabs (quite a long time ago) I have installed the Squared Australis tabs add-on on every update.

They have taken their time to finally get rid of the rounded tabs absolutely everybody hated but on the way there royally screwed up the way the drop down menus open.
ie: in this and previous versions, the drop down menu would open down and to the right or left, according to how much room was available on screen to show the links.

In versions after 55.0.3, it opens down and only to the right, ignoring that there's no room left on the screen where FF is open and moving part of the menu to the screen at the right.
Bug reports were actually answered suggesting that the links be shortened so that they would not go on to the next screen. (!!!)

Absolute rubbish, so for the time being I will stick to this version which is the last one affected by this new drop down menu ''feature'.

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1718 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-26 21:25:24

Hello:

James1138 wrote:

What about installing "mdetect" ...

Thanks for the tip, I did not know about that app.

But that's not the problem as both Devuan ASCII and X Server probe and detect the mouse properly:

groucho@devuan:~$ lsusb
Bus 010 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 005: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
Bus 007 Device 004: ID 046d:c077 Logitech, Inc. M105 Optical Mouse
--- snip ---
groucho@devuan:~$ 
groucho@devuan:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i mouse
[    38.133] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB Optical Mouse (/dev/input/event4)
[    38.133] (**) Logitech USB Optical Mouse: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[    38.133] (**) Logitech USB Optical Mouse: Applying InputClass "libinput pointer catchall"
[    38.133] (II) Using input driver 'libinput' for 'Logitech USB Optical Mouse'
[    38.133] (**) Logitech USB Optical Mouse: always reports core events
[    38.192] (II) input device 'Logitech USB Optical Mouse', /dev/input/event4 is tagged by udev as: Mouse
[    38.192] (II) input device 'Logitech USB Optical Mouse', /dev/input/event4 is a pointer caps
[    38.224] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech USB Optical Mouse" (type: MOUSE, id 10)
[    38.224] (**) Logitech USB Optical Mouse: (accel) selected scheme none/0
[    38.224] (**) Logitech USB Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[    38.224] (**) Logitech USB Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[    38.284] (II) input device 'Logitech USB Optical Mouse', /dev/input/event4 is tagged by udev as: Mouse
[    38.284] (II) input device 'Logitech USB Optical Mouse', /dev/input/event4 is a pointer caps
[    38.284] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB Optical Mouse (/dev/input/mouse1)
groucho@devuan:~$ 

Thanks for your input.

A.

#1719 Re: News & Announcements » Heads up: X Server exploit CVE-2018-14665 » 2018-10-26 16:09:46

Hello:

Ogis1975 wrote:

Security updates for this  vulnerability already in the mirrors.

Indeed ...
Saw it not 15' after I posted.
Fast as lightning.  =-)

A big Thank You! to the maintainers.

Cheers,

A.

#1720 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-26 11:48:10

Hello:

yeti wrote:

I hope there will be more cooperation between Debian and Devuan.

I seriously doubt that it's something the Debian crowd wants, just the opposite.
And as long as that Pottering fellow is at the helm, it will stay that way.

willbprogz227 wrote:

Man, this stinks.

Indeed it does.

As I have made clear in other posts, I'm not a developer.
I just have 20+ years of IT work, both at home and in my profession, with a hands on approach to software and hardware save programming anything but simple batch routines.

Systemd in Linux brings back memories of my transition from W3.11 to W95, with the end of *.ini files I understood to the undocumented workings of *the registry*, which took me years to get a minimal hold of as it was constantly changing and going deeper and deeper into the OS with every iteration and as a result, the end of any chance of knowing/controlling what was going on.

The registry in Windows OSs is a virus and I see systemd as nothing more than a registry class virus infecting Linux_land.

There are people both inside and outside IT that actually want this and are quite willing to pay shitloads of money for it to happen.

Call me paranoid but I don't see this MS cozying up to Linux in various ways lately as a coincidence: these things do not happen just because or on a senior manager's whim.
What I do see (YMMV) is systemd being a sort of convergence of Linux with Windows, which will not be good for Linux and may well be its undoing.

But I also think that the options virtue of the Linux world (which has been spread far too thinly, IMO) will one day be its undoing.

Like I wrote once, elsewhere:

OP wrote:

But until the Linux community 'as a whole' realises that a truly focused and effective joint effort is needed to take Linux into the desktop for 'everyone' (as opposed to the 'look Ma, I rolled a new distro today! attitude that has plagued it for as long as I can remember), this will continue to happen.

But it is something that seems to be, if not impossible to achieve, very far away and I fear that time may have already run out.

In very few years, all your digital activities will be owned and monitored by governments and corporations and there will be absolutely nothing to be done about it, as not having a digital activity will not really be an option because everything you do or want to do will depend on your having one.

Sorry for the rant.

Cheers,

A.

#1721 News & Announcements » Heads up: X Server exploit CVE-2018-14665 » 2018-10-26 01:36:23

Altoid
Replies: 2

Hello:

I have not seen this posted in the Dev1 forum yet but if it this is the wrong place, please move it as necessary.

A two year old X Server vulnerability has seen the light, reported by Narendra Shinde and Red Hat a couple of days ago, it's CVE-2018-14665.

cve site wrote:

A flaw was found in xorg-x11-server before 1.20.3. An incorrect permission check for -modulepath and -logfile options when starting Xorg. X server allows unprivileged users with the ability to log in to the system via physical console to escalate their privileges and run arbitrary code under root privileges.

Here's an article about it from The Register:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/2 … erability/

Here's the cve entry:

https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.c … 2018-14665

Here's a link to a gitlab post:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xse … 7c86fe330e

Apparently, it does not affect those of us using a display manager to start an X session, so I guess most of us are covered (?).

In any case, I guess a patch/update should be forthcoming soon.

Cheers,

A.

#1722 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-25 21:53:54

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Have you tried single click instead of double?

If you mean the Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> Navigation -> Single click to activate items in Thunar, no ...
I had not thougth of that one.

I use it quite a lot, one of the first things I used to set up everytime I installed an OS, that and the type repeat settings in BIOS.

I recall (waaay back when) when it was the new thing through some special add-on software that only came with the (expensive) MS-Intellimouse.
I was delighted with that as well as with being able to go off one edge of the screen to appear at the other edge.   
So young ...

But it is only supposed to affect left button behaviour.

Now, if you mean what I do when I right-click on a link, I just do a single click, not a double click.

Let's see if the new setting makes things better and wait for the rest of the affected parties to report.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1723 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-25 21:11:33

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Delighted to hear that it worked for you.

Spoke too soon ...  8^ º !

Just now (I've rebooted a couple of times since I posted) I've noticed the right-click button syndrome is back.

But just like before, it's not constant.
It just happens repeatedly and after a while on the same page/same link, it's not happening.

Seems to be a sneaky bastard ...
So back to the drawing board it is.

I'll change the Double Click Time setting to 450 ms and see what happens.
But there's just so much you can stretch that setting without hampering mouse functionality.

I don't think the Double Click Distance setting is involved so I'll leave it there.

Sorry for the bad news.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

A.

#1724 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-25 17:23:22

Hello:

golinux wrote:

... old PS2 mouse. Nothing fancy.

Some of my best mice are PS2.   8^D

golinux wrote:

Double Click Time = 400-500 ms
Double Click Distance = 5 px

Yes!
That apparently did the trick.   =-)

I set them at:
-> Double Click Time = 425 ms
-> Double Click Distance = 5 px

It seems that if the Double Click Time is too short, it behaves like a single click, not only at the Left Button but at the Right Button also
Shouldn't work that way.

Isn't Double Click an action assigned only to the left button?
Then why would Double Click Time affect how the right button responds to input?

I think that may be where the source of the problem is.

In any case, the problem (at least for me) seems to have gone away.
As long as I don't need a shorter Double Click Time, it will be in check.

I'd appreciate it if other forum members with the same problem tried the settings I have used and see if it goes away for them too.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Best,

A.

#1725 Re: Installation » Odd mouse behaviour » 2018-10-25 14:35:02

Hello:

golinux wrote:

... muscle memory has adapted ...

I have not had this problem for too long.
And don't think I can adapt, it being so annoying for me.

golinux wrote:

... helps that I have set rather slow/lazy mouse reaction times.

I'll look at those settings.

I assume that you are referring to Applications -> Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad -> Behaviour?

Could you post the values you have yours are set to so I can try and see if that has an effect for me?

ie:
Double Click Time = XXX ms
Double Click Distance = XXX px

Thanks in advance,

A.

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