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What do you think about following OpenBSD criticism?
There is none 100% safety system as the life we live is not 100% guaranteed by countless factors.
In my opinion, Linux critics are even worse than those of Windows, especially on some prestigious tech-forums that are quite weird.
Meanwhile, Linux list it is even longer, consumers still use it.
The question wasn't addressed to me, but I am also giving my 2 cents.
As a BSD newbie , i really don't care that much anymore. I do as much i can to do my duties without being paranoid at all.
There are holes everywhere, from hardware to software. One issue will be closed another one will come out.
Use what makes you feel better and don't live for the other's eye or criticism. Criticize yourself if you want to or ignore by using something else.
Awesome Ogis1975 - Dev1 simplicity that's what make it very close to a part of users.
Thanks to xexpanderx & addy-dclxvi
Oldie but a goldie
Thank you very much zephyr, i must adjust a few settings and perhaps install some others packg to make it working.
I'll start to rice one of these days
Best regards!
If you are interested will provide the bash script for the YouTube-dl or PMRP.
Cheers
zephyr
Please provide the bash script zephyr. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing the guide Ogis1975, When it comes to cli audio player mpd (Daemon) is irreplaceable.
I'll give another try those 9.9.9.9 from Quad9. Thanks for pointing out Hoas.
Cli apps have become a mainstay with replacing some gui apps with me, the ever-popular htop, atop for viewing running processes, also ncdu and nnn for file search, tmux an old favorite for a multi-pane terminal usage. The cli app nnn is in the Ceres repos and don't know if it is available in Beowulf but it is not in Ascii. Don't know if you are familiar with hakerdefo's pmrp (internet radio), pmytd (youtube-dl), and pmss (screenshot) all very nice cli apps.
I too use ncdu, top/htop, youtube-dl the latter is almost in use daily, Everything from Youtube ends here thanks to mpv player. Also ffmpeg helps me pretty much about other media stuff's. Didn't know about "pmytd" & "pmrp" The first one looks very interesting, I will immediately check it and perhaps use it right away. I don't hear much radio on PC, the snippet-app looks just fine. hakerdefo have some pretty nifty stuff on his github. Thanks for sharing.
Have been to Europe many times to the UK and Germany, was job-related and spent almost zero time doing offer than work at the airbases. I have longed to go back but Scotland and Australia would me my two destinations. Belgium, France, and Italy would be an architectural delight for me. I love old buildings and historical places. I spent many years living in Micronesia and Hawai and traveled briefly to the Philippines and Thailand. And once again not getting out into the community.
As you pointed out about those European cities, they are very beautiful in the cultural and historical prism, their ancient buildings being a great asset for themselves or entire world regarding history concerned. I'm sure you will enjoy it a lot when you make a visit on them. Australia is going through a very difficult time with fires and I hope they'll recover soon. I'm really sorry for what I see on the Internet from them, I wish when you make your going the colossal damage is minimized. Never been to extraordinary Hawaii, i'd love to get some sunshine now in January. I believe you were lucky to live in that place
Work has always been an extension of myself, loved my different positions and jobs and do miss it now. Retirement isn't all its cut out to be, its an end to a very important part of your life. Have to say however when the numbers are right with income versus working or retiring...retire and enjoy life!
To be precise, work keeps us alive and well, i also love some early jobs from my beginnings. After all the hard work in life, the reward is deserved, so that after a lifetime of work rest is necessary, Even though the rest, hands do not cease to do daily work which means we never rest as long as we breathe.Always a pleasure to chat, compare notes and share an interest, thank you!
cheers
zephyr
After all the hard work, the reward is deserved, so that after a lifetime of work breaks are necessary, Even though rest, hands do not cease to do daily work which means we never rest as long as we breathe.
My pleasure to hear from you bro, Thanks aswell for sharing your Linux stuff and stories.
Best regards!
^Where i have the data doesn't matter very much about Google, I use many Google producst like Chrome, Youtube, GMAIL etc... I stoped worrying about Google security-complex in other networks.
However do you have DNS to suggest?
I've tried 1.1.1.1 , 1.0.0.1 , 9.9.9.9 i didn't find them stable as 8.8.8.8, sometimes i see my Network unreachable with other DNS's, so i sets Google because looks always reachable to me.
I have to remove broadcast IP, I don't know how it ends there because I don't remember having to manually set it. I'm trying to remove it now thank you.
netmask 255.255.255.0 it belongs to 192.168.1.132/24 - i'm fixing this part by add /24 thanks.
Thanks so much, nothing to sorry, always pleasure to hear your suggestions & corrections.
Regards!
I started paying attention to the d-u with sid, if it appeared that it was something that might break it then postponed upgrading a few days. Normally Debian had become quite bad about not sending upgrades in sequence and would either break or get an error. Devuan (knock on wood) has been very keen not to break an unstable install. Sid was quite nice to use with Wheezy and vinit but after that with systemd it became almost impossible to keep sid working. Became a little paranoid to do a d-u, that is no fun!
^Almost same to me, I remember very well the first time where SID boy break my toy, apt-listbugs & apt-listchanges i had em as my daily tools where i got the data regarding apps-bugs, info or releases. I was very family with hold-unhold packages then on my-testing for years, but the transition from kernel 3.16 to 4 or from Wheezy non-systemd to systemd something crashed and i couldn't manage to recover from it with my efforts, that's ended my little time on the sid. Agree, Wheezy was the last clean of Debian, the one and the best Debian i ever used. With the living of Devuan Debian pre-systemd the feeling is revived.
Never used foobar2000 on windows, think remembering correctly just used default media player. DeaDBeeF has a lot to offer and like simplicity. I use foobar eq settings with the eq on DB. Will be happy when Devuan ports it over to its repos!
Use moc and cmus too, nice way to play from the music library! For one like using cli apps!
I used eq of foobar aswell, When i bought a pair of professional headphones i realized that i no longer needed those sound-configs.
Well, since i have urxvt,ranger,tmux,mpv,feh i couldn't leave myself without a cli audio-player, I am not so dedicated as i used to be. however, "apt-get" is the only 100% there ready to perform.
Thank you I did, happy you had a great time with family and friends, NY is a great time to reflect and make those resolutions for a better year. Done the same with family and neighboring friends. Retired so all I do is lounge about and have fun!
cheers
zephyr
Thank you too, I'd been around Europe for a few days and had fun. I have meet few old and new friends around Italy, France, Belgium. Well, i still have 20+ more years to retire have planty of time to give and get on my way. Important to be fine and healthy above all.
Glad to hear from you zephyr.
Best Regards!
Hi Nili, Thank you! I have been using Ceres since Jessie became stable. Ceres has not even hiccuped on my main machine and daily driver! very stable for an unstable kernel!
A bit late due to slow start of the daily routine.
Yw, I always been a testing-user for two or more years on my #! time, once one day i made it to SID didn't last more than a week I wasn't prepared enough for Sid. So i used Sid only a week, i can't denny i haven't proper guts to run sid nowdays because i'm too busy with life things and fix my concerns will eat my time right away. I use stable distro mostly since a year. However I'm slowly open to other directions as well to Alpine, Void or BSD. Once i saw i user that run sid and have over 2000 packages installed, i always say that man have guts for sure to run sids with so many pckg's.
I started using DeaDBeeF shortly after coming to Linux, with CrunchBang. Very powerful and simply a great audio player. Not all audio players are created equal, have noticed DB and alsa works better than others. Impressed with your DB, very cool!
Ditto on the New Years, wish all good fortune and happiness! More peaceful world!
cheers
zephyr
DeaDBeeF was the closest to foobar2000 on Windows, the only player that interested me in Windows early. When I switched to Linux 10 years ago I was looking for and tried many different players to compare with foobar and the most proximate was DB or Audacious.
I chosed DB because this seems more familiar to foobar, the author is very enthusiastic and stylish in the selection of details to that player.
deadbeef on a GUI fron-end, MOC or cmus cli other times.
Thanks, had a blast for New Year with fam and friends. Hope you had aswell a cheerful and rest time needed for starting a new year full of energy.
Cheers!
I had to wakup my interface eth0 static this way.
from my: "/etc/network/interfaces"
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.132
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
Just change mine data to yours and ping 8.8.8.8 once your system finish booting.
That's a nice upgrade zephyr, It give us Devuan-end-users hopes for updates soon Also glad to see another DB fellow. This is my copy. Almost maximized, i used for a while semi-gui like yours, but a week ago i did a bit maximized.
DeaDBeeF is really tight audio player.
Happy New Year to everyone!
I wish everyone a healthy life success at work, enough money in pockets or wallets and good tweaks on systems for this new decade.
I wish three elections to be considered by Devian senior management if one day a decision is made.
1) Switch to Slackware
2) BSD
3) Independent
Currently I'm already 80% BSD and 20% Linux well thanks to systemD that made me switch after 10 years on Linux mostly Debian or -based. My passing transition from Linux to BSD wasn't at all difficult than i thought.
I have always a ready system at any time for any startup Devuan will take. I am now practicing myself with new things mostly BSD.
Well done HevyDevy!
Merry Christmas Everyone!
Devuan | No Bullt@rds!
Edit: Desktop doesn't seems that good without a background regardless Fluxbox settings, I put it a image and edited this post.
Photo credit: takahiro taguchi
The last ones for this year i think. Hope everyone have a blast during the celebrations.
Well, before completely jumping the Linux ship....there is Slackware (or SalixOS)which has remained true to *nix standards while everyone else forked off.
Thanks for the suggestion ChuangTzu, I've thought about it for a while, I've checked a bit on my early distro-hops and i regret that I didn't devoted enough time to the oldest (i think one of the true Linux distro around) i should have used more. I will consider it to check it soon, Any independent distro will have always a place in my mind as soon the opportunity knocking.
I'm not going to abandon Linux completely, but to I've lost a lot of trust in Debian since systemd, Debian once was my dearest OS.
Thanks to Devuan I still experience the feeling i once had. If things getting worse on the road, every other chances are open to me.
Regarding SalixOS, i know only by name, i'll make a visit to this distro aswell.
At the moment i'm having fun playing with BSD, I see that it have some limits compared to Linux. However, already i feel comfortable being on the BSD boats that i think is clean, honest and trustworthy regardless a few limits in some things.
Thanks mate, I'll consider your two suggestions that you put on the table.
BR!
Nili
I do not care anymore. IMO, It's not too late to think of any other non-Linux system. I'm already practicing my hands with BSD. I'm looking at Haiku aswell. Instead of learning another Linux OS I find it more reasonable to use a non Linux OS.
Curiously, I installed Debian 10 a couple of days ago and didn't hold it for more than a few hours. Still no to"C:\SystemD" for me.
Thanks guys
@anticapitalista I haven't made any specific interventions or modifications on Xorg/xorg.conf itself, but I think the fact that Desktop is outdated and probably auto-optimization by Linux / Xorg have significant role.
What others i have done?
I installed very minimal Xorg with fev tools
Commandline: apt-get install xinit xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel rxvt-unicode fluxbox leafpad alsa-utils curl wget scrot feh gtk2-engines-pixbuf ntfs-3g xfe psmisc rcconf x11-xserver-utils ranger file caca-utils libdbus-glib-1-2 gtk2-engines fonts-droid ttf-unifont ca-certificates hicolor-icon-theme jmtpfs mediainfo lm-sensors ncdu rdesktop xdg-utils xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-common --no-install-recommends
I had to clean startup services with rcconf to very few services i only needed, i fixed everything "(WW) warning, (EE) error" founds on Xorg.log.
I made sure i hadn't major issues showing to: "kern.log", "faillog", "syslog" "messages", etc... then i turned off rsyslog temporary for testing purpose.
During the installation (in the traditional Expert method) I only installed the ones i needed. Also i always check ReduceDebian to made many changes.
In the end, i had a complete system + apps to 1GB with only "410" pckgs installed.
None: systemd, dbus, pulse, consolekit, gvfs, and many many unneeded tools.
Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 ext4 143G 1021M 135G 1% /
udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev
tmpfs tmpfs 200M 304K 200M 1% /run
tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs tmpfs 1.2G 0 1.2G 0% /run/shm
I turned OFF few tty from "/etc/inittab", i got some memory plus reduced to only one tty(1).
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty -a nili tty1
#1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
#2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
#3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
#4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
#5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
#6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
I made auto login (user) + auto startup (startX) Window manager (Fluxbox) from ".profile".
ps_mem shows me different datas than "TOP", for example:
PS_MEM: 10MB to 15MB
TOP: Xorg 12MB to 30MB
To tell the truth i don't know which is correct conky aslo showing different, also bash scripts differents aswell.
I've read that it's a long struggle for accuracy about memory usages on Linux.
I believe the old system, plays a major role to have auto-optimized, i have another coherent system when Xorg spends almost 50MB on Idle.
Something else, on this old hardware Devuan i686 i used to have Xorg to 8MB. I'm really surprised that x64 boots to 30MB lol, i think i can get it even more down by replacing Fluxbox with dwm, rxvt-unicode with st and bash with ksh, but i accepted choosing Fluxbox, bash+urxvt.
So, sorry i don't have a precise answer to why is low my Xorg, except for some individual interventions i believe have helped reducing the usage of Xorg/system may i call a bit of an answer.
Not a proper desktop images, simply fluxbox background settings.
! BACKGROUND OPTIONS
background: mod
background.modX 3
background.modY: 3
background.color: #111121
background.colorTo: #000000
...but showing the above wasn't my goal, this is the first time i have come down to this level tweaking "x86_64" so low in ram.
The desktop is so old, but thankfully with x64 support. Still doing fine even with 2GB MEM.
I wouldn't reach it if wasn't for Devuan 2.1
Thanks zephyr, Me too like watching scrots of users. It's the part i usually visit the most. We get inspired to do something similar or individually.
That Akiba panorama on my desktop is old now from 2010, but the place is left almost the same.
That's good to hear, hope yo've been satisfied. I believe so
Thanks zephyr, Devuan > Fluxbox powered. Well done on your projects