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Couold also be a DM issue that has nothing to with Devuan...
Of course it is, since Devuan has nothing to do with the desktop chosen and their display manager they use to login with. They just provide the software used by them for that purpose.
The Debian wiki has all the details, no clue on a mbr drive if that is what it is.
https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall
So what is the problem with running grub from the booted system to easy and uncomplicated to do?
so I can boot on my restored devuan , but I lost the menu to boot into windows...
Well that is half the battle won, for the rest. Edit the file /etc/default/grub for this line.
root@9600k:~# grep -i prober /etc/default/grub
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=trueChange it to false so it will probe for other OSs as you want then update-grub to have it done. Do this as root user or with sudo in front of the command when it does the updating you will see the OSs it will put in the menu listed in it output.
Edit: That of course assumes you have the menu enabled and a timeout set for it to do so.
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5Finding some people online that claim it works for them though, and others like me it doesn't, looks like another puzzle to solve.
Yes, the never ending quest continues on, as always with these things... Good to see we have got it sorted for you Tweedlewise.
Two ways to do it.
zeus@9600k:~$ apt-file list heif-gdk-pixbuf
heif-gdk-pixbuf: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-heif.so
heif-gdk-pixbuf: /usr/share/doc/heif-gdk-pixbuf/changelog.Debian.amd64.gz
heif-gdk-pixbuf: /usr/share/doc/heif-gdk-pixbuf/changelog.Debian.gz
heif-gdk-pixbuf: /usr/share/doc/heif-gdk-pixbuf/copyright
zeus@9600k:~$ dpkg -L heif-gdk-pixbuf
dpkg-query: package 'heif-gdk-pixbuf' is not installed
Use dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list archive files contents.The first using apt-file the package does not need to be installed for it to work and find the contents of packages. The second the packages needs to be installed on the machine. As you can see there is not a lot to the package I doubt it is usable for conversion of anything and looking at the information about it seems to confirm it is only a library that supports the format.
zeus@9600k:~$ apt info heif-gdk-pixbuf
Package: heif-gdk-pixbuf
Version: 1.19.5-1+b1
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Source: libheif (1.19.5-1)
Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers <debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org>
Installed-Size: 43.0 kB
Depends: libheif1 (= 1.19.5-1+b1), libc6 (>= 2.4), libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0t64 (>= 2.12.0)
Homepage: http://www.libheif.org
Download-Size: 10.8 kB
APT-Sources: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
Description: HEIF and AVIF file format decoder and encoder - gdk-pixbuf loader
libheif is an ISO/IEC 23008-12:2017 HEIF and AVIF (AV1 Image File Format) file
format decoder and encoder. There is partial support for ISO/IEC 23008-12:2022
(2nd Edition) capabilities.
.
HEIF and AVIF are new image file formats employing HEVC (H.265) or AV1 image
coding, respectively, for the best compression ratios currently possible.
.
libheif supports various codecs provided by plugins for image decoding and
encoding.
.
A gdk-pixbuf loader module for applications such as "gpicview" and "pcmanfm"
is provided by this package.Give an actual conversion program like ImageMagick a go you will likely have better reult in getting something to start and have a hope of seeing it it support the conversion from that format. Though the format is not specifically listed it says over 100 supported..
Package: imagemagick
Version: 8:7.1.1.43+dfsg1-1
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Maintainer: ImageMagick Packaging Team <pkg-gmagick-im-team@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Installed-Size: 75.8 kB
Depends: imagemagick-7.q16 (>= 8:6.9.2.10+dfsg-2~)
Homepage: https://www.imagemagick.org/
Tag: implemented-in::c, interface::commandline, interface::graphical,
interface::x11, role::program, scope::utility, uitoolkit::xlib,
use::converting, use::editing, use::viewing, works-with-format::gif,
works-with-format::jpg, works-with-format::pdf, works-with-format::png,
works-with-format::postscript, works-with-format::svg,
works-with-format::tiff, works-with::image, works-with::image:raster,
works-with::text, x11::application
Download-Size: 20.0 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
Description: image manipulation programs -- binaries
ImageMagick is a software suite to create, edit, and compose bitmap images.
It can read, convert and write images in a variety of formats (over 100)
including DPX, EXR, GIF, JPEG, JPEG-2000, PDF, PhotoCD, PNG, Postscript,I have CD's and DVD's I burned going all the way back to 2007 that work fine, just need to store properly and be careful when using. I like having a non-electronic backup for my work and important stuff. Have worked with electronics all my life, and seen too much fail to put all my faith in such.
So have I, it has been nearly fifty years since I touched my first computer, a TRS-80 at the local Radio Shack, and all I can go by is my experience with them. And that has been mine with discs since that happened a good more than dozen or so years ago I have not bothered with the junk anymore since that incident. If all of the 20 drives in those four machines go tits up at once then I loose it all. Well not really as I have single large one less than year old back drive for all of it. As it is I have lost one drive in the last who knows how many years, it was probably a decade since the oldest in them machines is from around 2014, it was newer just under three year old one that went. Less than month from the warranty going on it so did not cost a single cent to replace. I am rather shocked that more have not gone from seeing all the complaints online about it. Though like all of these problems people seem to have that never affect me, it makes me wonder just what the hell they are doing that causes the problems. That is my experience with electronics, they just work if they survive any length of time. They usually die off nice and quick if they are garbage. Oh and the local Walmart was what I was thinking about when saying good luck buying them, no where in sight there. Or anywhere else for that matter. I do not live in large city perhaps they stock them there. All my electronics are protected by good quality UPS/surge protector/line conditioner so no bad electrical signals can get to them. That could have something to do with their longevity.
And yet again we see the superiority of the optical disk, as it never fails.
Yeah but who has any of them laying around to waste on an installer. And good luck just going out and buying them anywhere, need to be ordered online here. I have some dvd blanks that have sat unused for years but no cd that I know off. I gave up on the dvd after discovering what garbage they are. Tried to get some files off an about year old disks and what a mess, it was errors everywhere. That is when I switched to hard drives for my storage needs they very rarely fail and I have so many backups. Fours sets of zfs raidz in four different machines I have accumulated as leftovers when upgraded over the years. That I never need to worry about that massive amount of data I have stored. Well I do being the paranoid about my computing freak I am, I backup my installs all the time. As a cron job that runs every two hours, before any major upgrade with a cloning to external drive then booted in my duplicate machine I have to confirm the backup worked then upgrade. And/or backup to the internal backup drive as well, I take my data safety seriously.
And what does "supposedly the same ISO except for branding/sources with the equivalent Debian on it" mean?
That means two installers built using the same method only changing the brand name and sources should have identical results when used. The Devuan installer obviously does not use the same method as Debian to build it as it fails to install with the Ventory used. The other question you ask about means exactly what I said. I will say again if you cannot understand it. Devuan is the only ISO I have ever tried to install from with Ventoy that has not worked, all of the other dozen or so tried have done it perfectly fine. It is the outlier in all of them not some common problem with it you try to portray.
The point is that Ventoy does not provide the respetive ISOs as mountable partitions which is what many installers expect and require; they require that the initrd software of the installer is able mount the media.
The only ISO I have ever found that will not work for install with Ventoy is the Devuan, supposedly the same ISO except for branding/sources with the equivalent Debian on it boots and installs perfectly..
As a preemptive strike, how do I delete my account. TIA.
@moulder61
I find the easiest way to do it is go into your browsers password and login store delete the site there, logout of site then remove any bookmark you may have set. Do the password and login delete in any password manager you may use as well. This works perfectly fine to never use it again, though some do have a delete the account in their user settings as well. I just used the first procedure just early this week, when I was told to censor my posts for calling systemd the piece of garbage it is or the mods would/could do it for me. I told them to stick the account and their forum where the sun does not shine and did the procedure, they did not have delete option.
i have an ssd 128 gb that can be inserted instead of dwd
but is there a method to configure it as a buffer
and is it possible and useful
Depends on how it is setup by the replacement device used. If it is a direct connection to the internal Hard Drive controller allowing it to boot the machine then it can be damn useful. That type of arrangement can be the same as replacing the internal hard drive. You need to determine the way it connects to the machine, the speed of the connection it gets when in it. But generally it is good to try and use it as your install to boot from to see if it will speed up your machine. If Camtaf is correct with the specifications he posts for your machine and it has four slots with maximum capacity of 16GB for the machine then the ram you show is incorrect for your machine as the most it will take are 4GB higher speed modules and you link to are 8GB. Before buying anything make certain of the return policies in the event what you get does not work with your machine.
Now I have looked for them this place suggests 32GB or 4 X 8GB modules are supported.
https://memory.net/product-category/len … 30-series/
As does the Kingston web site.
https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/sear … 530-series
And this German site says the same thing as well.
https://www.compuram.biz/memory/lenovo/ … quad-core/
The one thing they all have in common is the 1600mhz for the ram speed, if replacing your ram in the end then this is the speed you need to get to run it at its full potential. And as I have already said make certain any place you buy from has no questions asked no hassle returns policy. There is no sense wasting your money if you find what you have bought does not work properly and they will not let you return it.
no 'V - not buffer - not ECC',
No clue on the V - not buffer, there is buffered and unbuffered memory, but the not ECC is what you want for it. The error correcting (ECC) memory is used for servers not consumer machines like a laptop. Perhaps you could post link to the memory so people can see the exact model you are thinking of buying.
THE most sensible set of rules for any forum I have ever seen just about perfection.
Are you using unstable too, green ? No problemo ?
I use the testing/unstable combination with apt pinning to get the packages from testing first then if needed from the unstable if they have not got there yet. It works well without problems.
that solved 2/3 of the problem, still python3-apt didn't update, but I will wait for devs
That depends on a package in the unstable/ceres that does not exist.
root@9600k:~# apt install -s -t unstable python3-apt
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
Unsatisfied dependencies:
python3-apt : Depends: libapt-pkg7.0 (>= 2.9.27+exp1) but it is not installable
Error: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@9600k:~# apt-cache policy libapt-pkg7.0
libapt-pkg7.0:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:Good luck with it, I went through that entire list checking every one and as you have found most are useless for the purpose intended, being a mirror of Devuan.
For this purpose you can use Gnome auto-starting mechanism.
Indeed and use something like this to ensure you do not get conflicting instances of it started as well.
zeus@9600k:~$ cat bin/pipewire_start.sh
#!/bin/bash
# Added to start pipewire on login to desktop
# https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867
# was the ~/.xsessionrc -rw-rw-r-- permissions
# now ~/bin/pipewire_start.sh executable permissions
# as bash script loaded from KDE autostart in System Settings
# kill any existing pipewire instance to restore sound
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/wireplumber 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire 1>/dev/null 2>&1
exec /usr/bin/pipewire &
# wait for pipewire to start before attempting to start related daemons
while [ "$(pgrep -f /usr/bin/pipewire)" = "" ] ; do
sleep 1
done
# start wireplumber
exec /usr/bin/wireplumber &
# start pipewire-pulse
exec /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse &I just gave examples, no guaranteed solutions.
Indeed and I gave the practical in use examples of them to save him some time and further frustration.
Last but not least you might use this example: http://ftp.fau.de/merged using the mirror ftp.fau.de from Germany. Adapt to your needs.
Well if your needs include excalibur or unstable it will not work.
Ign:5 http://ftp.fau.de/merged excalibur InRelease
Ign:6 http://ftp.fau.de/merged unstable InRelease
Err:7 http://ftp.fau.de/merged excalibur Release
404 Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Err:8 http://ftp.fau.de/merged unstable Release
404 Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Error: The repository 'http://ftp.fau.de/merged excalibur Release' does not have a Release file.
Notice: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
Notice: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
Error: The repository 'http://ftp.fau.de/merged unstable Release' does not have a Release file.
Notice: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
Notice: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.3.) Use http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged as example for Germany.
That however does.
Get:5 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur InRelease [40.7 kB]
Get:6 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged unstable InRelease [47.6 kB]
Get:7 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages [9,624 kB]
Get:8 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main Translation-en [7,207 kB]
Get:9 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Contents (deb) [10.1 MB]
Get:10 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free amd64 Packages [96.4 kB]
Get:11 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free Translation-en [69.0 kB]
Get:12 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free amd64 Contents (deb) [65.1 kB]
Get:13 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/contrib amd64 Packages [51.9 kB]
Get:14 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/contrib Translation-en [49.1 kB]
Get:15 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/contrib amd64 Contents (deb) [158 kB]
Get:16 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free-firmware amd64 Packages [6,936 B]
Get:17 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free-firmware Translation-en [4,641 B]
Get:18 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free-firmware amd64 Contents (deb) [1,020 B]
Get:19 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged unstable/main amd64 Packages [10.3 MB]RedGreen925, and how to see the mirror of the country?
Seen posting by someone mentioning the us. for the code when a person was having problem and figured I would try mine, it worked as well as the us. did when I tried it. I went through every mirror in the listing of them they have when I first installed to find good one and quite frankly it is not impressive errors all over the place with them. Ranging from timeouts/404 errors to not having release files or the gpg signing of them.
Upgrading the system trying to migrate....
# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
That is not the command to upgrade a system from one version to the next, if it is old enough the apt dist-upgrade is to be used or the apt full-upgrade is the new option. An apt upgrade with the old repository enabled should be done just before changing the sources.list to the new version to be used when changing repositories again to do it. For the mirrors problem you are having try ca.deb.devuan.org it seems to work well enough for me the deb.devuan.org arrangement was not the best at all. See if putting your country code in front of it will find a mirror that actually works for you or use mine. Now I check it again you are at the correct first step before the migration the apt upgrade of the old system.
There have been suggestions that it is a kernel bug, also a plot between Microsoft and the BIOS makers. My money is on the kernel bug, or some oversight in the installation scripting.
Well if it is then upgrade your kernel you are four versions behind, the -31 kernel just came out yesterday. For the sleep problem no clue I never use it.
Are you possibly doing this for running pipewire in Wayland? I couldn't make it work on wayland so.
Not that I use it as it kills off my mouse button mapping I use but it does work in an autostart script I made the .xsessionrc into on my KDE desktop.
zeus@9600k:~$ cat bin/pipewire_start.sh
#!/bin/bash
# Added to start pipewire on login to desktop
# https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867
# was the ~/.xsessionrc -rw-rw-r-- permissions
# now ~/bin/pipewire_start.sh executable permissions
# as bash script loaded from KDE autostart in System Settings
# kill any existing pipewire instance to restore sound
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/wireplumber 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire 1>/dev/null 2>&1
exec /usr/bin/pipewire &
# wait for pipewire to start before attempting to start related daemons
while [ "$(pgrep -f /usr/bin/pipewire)" = "" ] ; do
sleep 1
done
# start wireplumber
exec /usr/bin/wireplumber &
# start pipewire-pulse
exec /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse &Edit: I think others desktops have a similar feature to do the same.
Debian stable never updates packages like that, any OS based on it, which daedalus is, has the same limitations. If you want newer version then you need to upgrade to excalibur which has the version 32. This is always the main complaint about the Debian stable versions the software is frozen at the time of release not getting updated versions until the next stable release in about two years time they aim for these days.
root@9600k:~# apt policy lxqt
lxqt:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 32+b1
Version table:
32+b1 950
950 http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
600 http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged unstable/main amd64 PackagesUsers shouldn't need to figure out how to fix it, then fix it, on their own - that's what we have distro developers and maintainers for after all...
In a perfect world this is true, that is not the one we live in. The time has come to use the report bug link included in that file to report the problem and hopefully have it solved by them. Until then you get to do the work around to get done what you need done.