Late feedback: Beowulf works fine on X570/Ryzen 7 3700X/RS5500XT/backports kernel 5.5 when you know how to get the Navi14 firmware to work:

This link give the requried input: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =952710#10

rolfie

Some general thoughts to optical drives and media: my feeling is that todays drives are crap. You can buy BR drives that claim to support CD & DVD. My experience is that when i.e. I start a gparted life cd in such a BR drive as I have installed on the X570 MB  I'm getting lots of IO errors. Sometimes gparted works, sometimes it doesn't. Same with other media, i.e. Beowulf desktop iso. Booting same media in older drives works fine. 

On the modern HW I only use USB as boot media, never had issue like with these BR drives.

@fsmithred: does it make sense to try the desktop RC install iso on DVD (not the live version)? Does feedback on that help you?

rolfie

My dear take_a_number, please take a number and wait until you are the first in line to be served (which never may happen). Who are you to SHOUT AT US and to DEMAND answers? We are a bunch of volunteers interested in Devuan and how it is working, and we reserve the right which aspect of a post and what we like to answer and to ignore what we don't want to reply to. So please control your language.

For your benefit: The core of Devuan probably is 3% of Debian making it free of systemd, the rest is Linux and Debian and Desktop Environments etc. Your problems to find a file is a typical Linux/DE problem and nothing Devuan specific. Please use the $Search-machine$ of your preference/trust to find the answer. Maybe the file simply does not exist?

Take care, rolfie

Glad to be on Devuan!

Try to install linux-image-4.9-amd64 4.9+80+deb9u10~deb8u1, this package is available in Jessie-Security.

It should pull the latest 4.9 kernel.

rolfie

Use the beta3 netinstall for an encrypted LVM offline installation to command line. Polished the sources.list, made the network available and installed my preferred DE. Perfect install, all previous issues I had are resolved.

A very big "Well Done" to the Devuan team.

rolfie

Beginner or troll? Can't remember ever having had a not signed message. You are talking in general terms and not telling us the exact command and message and boundary conditions. Please show us your sources.list and the result from apt update. This way we can help. I might also help to understand your intentions. Why do you want to access SW from DVD instead of downloading the up to date stuff from the internet?

Anyhow: which DVD did you use? Complete name or download source.

sources.list readings:
https://devuan.org/os/
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3276

Can you ping 8.8.8.8 from your box?

rolfie

Back earlier than I thought. Tried the suggestion in my latest VM, it is easy to implement (easier and faster than I thought) and it works.

Thank your for your suggestion. The only question remains: how update-proof is this fix? I remember the cryptdisk.functions patch that never made it upstream. The situation is slightly different since desktop-base is Devuan only, but you never know. 

Have a nice weekend and stay safe, rolfie

I was reffering to my copy/paste problem with the text from grub.cfg from the VM. At first I just posted the text body description I prepared, made a break since a fast re-install of the guest additions did not help, and left a note that I would add the code later. When reading this again I saw its mis-understandable without the background, so I polished my test a bit.

Will give your suggestions a try. Feedback may take a while because I am dragged into a serious professinal problem that wil take priority for a while. Thank you for listening.

rolfie

Dear Ralph, thanks for reminding me, I have read this statement before. You guys and girls make the decisions. Does not mean that I agree. I think its a pity that you do not catch two birds with a stone by dropping one or two small packages.

My statement as a happy user of Devuan: I have used the ASCII netinstall and the temporarily available Beowulf mini-isos for offline CLI installations, and I am disappointed that this does no more work.

End of discussion, thank you for your engagement into this project.

rolfie

Possibly issues with modern optical drive technology (being crap). Pay attention to the boot process while the burnt media boots the installer. You see many IO errors and like?

Then the suggestion is to look into if your hw supports booting from USB stick. This is the better alternative lately. Since you have a Jessie running, give unetbootin a try. I have used that earlier, today in ASCII/Beowulf this program is no more in the repos. What works fine is rufus under Windows.

rolfie

Thank you for coming back. Looks like encryption always is in for more fun.

I am using my manual method because I think I have a bit more control which kind of SW is installed. Don't need to fight unwanted stuff like abiword when using the full desktop installs.

Would be interesting to understand how the Cinnebar stuff is linked into grub, I was searching for a hook, but could not find any. I will try the no recommends approach when I am no more so tired.

Anyhow, the hook also seems to duplicate an entry that is present before line 80 of the grub.cfg. These lines are added and I can't get rid of then, an update-grub always reproduce them:

insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set root='lvmid/91NKk7-tOG0-rbxc-EiqB-eIc0-jYsT-2cSV5t/hDTXd5-ZrjH-tN1n-60Vu-I7el-ukQd-mmGK1x'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='lvmid/91NKk7-tOG0-rbxc-EiqB-eIc0-jYsT-2cSV5t/hDTXd5-ZrjH-tN1n-60Vu-I7el-ukQd-mmGK1x'  e7380dd4-8083-4771-a095-aa15c7d0834d
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e7380dd4-8083-4771-a095-aa15c7d0834d
fi
insmod gfxmenu
loadfont ($root)/usr/share/desktop-base/grub-themes/cinnabar-grub/unifont-regular-16.pf2
insmod png
set theme=($root)/usr/share/desktop-base/grub-themes/cinnabar-grub/theme.txt
export theme

When I comment out the complete block grub does no more complain.

I am looking forward for the next set of isos. Thank you for your work.

rolfie

@Head_on_a_Stick:

1.) Lets move the Arch stuff discussion to a separate thread e.g. to DIY.

2.) You can't convince me that the EFI Bios of my ASUS Prime X570-Pro is crap and the one and only reason for my problems. 

I have got VM with a Beowulf installed from a netinstall image about a year ago encrypted with LVM that shows the same effect when booting. grub complains about not finding the logical volume that hold the root partition. Traditional grub colors. Just update to the latest status, still the same.

On the other hand, my VM installed from the beta DVD with similar setup = encrypted LVM, just Cinnamon instead of Mate, shows the grub Cinnabar theme and no errors. Both VMs use efi.

There must be something in my setup that screws update-grub. Anyhow, if I want ASUS to fix the efi bios, I need some idea what to complain about, and I have no idea whats causing the problems.

3.) Running a Ryzen 3700X with kernel 4.19: I have rebooted the PC with that kernel and pulled dmesg into a text file. Shall I mail that to your attention (zipped)? What temps are concerned: looks like lmsensors just finds the old passive graphics card thats on the board currently. I would claim temps are fine. In the bios I got then in the mid of 30s. I have the cool aircooler shipped with the CPU installed (with LEDs) on the CPU, rotation is low in operation, its nicely regulated if higher load is applied. The initial burst on reset is there, then the speed is run down.

rolfie