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#76 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-01-15 23:57:53
Boccherini - Fandango - Castanets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrdeD8LLoCM
#77 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2019-01-15 21:30:12
#78 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE 1.21 on devuan beowulf » 2019-01-15 21:26:12
Hi Anto,
Are you familiar with Willy Raharjo, he packages and maintains Mate for Slackware? It could be beneficial since Devuan and Slackware both have an interest in not having systemd. Willy is quite the wizard with packaging, scripting, hacking etc... 
https://plus.google.com/+WillySudiartoRaharjo
https://slackblogs.blogspot.com/
https://github.com/mateslackbuilds/msb
https://mateslackbuilds.github.io/
#79 Re: Other Issues » Update for libsystemd0 » 2019-01-15 21:17:32
Yup, fairly harmless, just a reminder of how long those tentacles are. Good news is that without the body, the tentacles are just a sticky reminder.
#80 Off-topic » How To Guide: Hardening Mozilla Firefox Quantum For Privacy & Security » 2019-01-15 21:12:16
- ChuangTzu
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Decent suggestions, especially under about:config section
#81 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-01-08 22:34:47
Sting - A Thousand Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7eWTsj9wU
#82 Re: Off-topic » Did anyone else come from crunchbang? » 2019-01-08 22:26:29
Jordan_Waughtal wrote:
Did anyone else come from #!?Imagine there are quite a few who used CrunchBang, came across it in 2011 and actually have it still on an HDD somewhere with Devuan.
STAR and CROWZ ob are similar to #!, use some configs also built with live-build.
I thought the cb-welcome script was rad. If you came from #! what was your favorite feature? If not what was your favorite feature of another disto?
Some distros use a similar welcome script but coded differently as STAR and CROWZ. Would have to say the menu was very nice although personally not dependent on pipemenus. Learned a lot from #! early on and also VSIDO a sid distribution, fluxbox and some attributes from perhaps from #!.
Great, have a screenshot in scrot.moe. Devuan 3,16 CrunchBang
https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2017/05/03/Shot-280217-012951.th.png
cheers
zephyr
Does it also go crunch bang like the original?
PS: I played with #! from time to time, was sad to see it go, not so much for the loss of the project but the larger view tendency for great projects to fold from apathy, lack of support, finances, etc... And no I do not consider the spinoffs as replacements for #!. Crunch died, the others are just standing over the grave.
#83 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-08 22:24:59
It's ok to use backports for a limited number of programs/packages, its not recommended to upgrade to everything available in backports. As pointed out make sure all of your repos only point to Devuan and not Debian.
#84 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2018-12-24 03:14:32
#85 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2018-12-10 22:44:33
Know your niche/audience and cater to them. Devuan/Debian is not the same audience as *buntu/Mageia etc...
The expectation should remain to research and learn, ask questions, get guidance etc... this will create and encourage empowered users, not simple automatons clicking yes, yes, yes, all the way through an installer. Also, keep in mind the more something does, the more intrinsic risk that it will screw up.
#86 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-12-10 21:22:41
dx, three more for you:
Pavarotti & Barry White - My first, my last, my everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHCcM_uV-r8
Miserere - Luciano Pavarotti and Zucchero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEyFacD-PMA
Luciano Pavarotti & Tracy Chapman Baby Can I Hold You Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNxD2yLuq-c
#87 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-12-08 02:31:28
Gary B.B. Coleman - The Sky is Crying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Gt46aX9Z4
and
Luciano Pavarotti & James Brown - It's a man's world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-B3lsgEfA
#88 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-12-08 02:22:09
Chris Isaak; what a voice.
Nice pick!
#89 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2018-12-08 00:48:11
Thinking of the future is a waste of time and energy. Wanting also. We are quite practical and do what needs to be done NOW. The future will manifest as it will depending on where contributors take it. If someone wants to write an installer as esr describes, they are welcome to do so. We at Devuan are collaborators and will work with anyone who cares to provide additional functionality/features.
Has ESR reached out to Devuan via IRC or other methods?
Yes.
#90 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2018-12-08 00:47:08
I respect ESR as I respect many other people in the free software community (and most of them are unknown to the masses). Anyway, good ideas ain't any better or more effective if they are not turned into actions, irrespective of how they originated. At the moment the current group of people who is working to deliver Devuan does not have time to put into the massive improvement of usability that is envisaged in some of the posts of this thread. This does not mean that Devuan has given up on becoming the most used distro in the world :-) This just means that we have the obligation to ensure that Devuan survives, first, and then that it improves. If there is no Devuan, there is no Devuan to improve.
How many of you would be ready to delay the release of Beowulf by two or three years to improve usability, and to get something that in the end -let's be honest- will not be able to compete with Ubuntu or Mint of Whatnottix in terms of usability and point-and-clicky stuff, nevertheless? Yeah, many would say "me! me!", but then we have lots of people complaining on IRC everyday about the current stable becoming obsolete, and their preferred software not being updated to the latest version. We have lost thousands of users due to the delay in releasing Jessie and ASCII.
Anything that did not existed before was created. Anything that does not exist yet must be created. And creation requires energy, in this universe. Devuan has sufficient energy to survive and thrive for the foreseeable future. Adding more stuff will require more energy, that must come out of somewhere/somebody. I am a positive person, and I am sure that this energy will become available in some form, because Devuan offers something unique to many, many users.
HND
KatolaZ
I don't have a bone in this fight so to speak, I favour the less user friendly. I was brought up on RTFM-man pages etc..., Unix and early days of Linux still had this, some distros still hold onto it, Slackware being one, I would like to see Devuan remain this way as well. Provide the tools, provide the programs, but let the user learn and grow. If something is too user friendly the user learns nothing other then how to click "report issue", whether its *buntu, Microsoft or Apple, you become merely a user of the technology with no understanding of whats going on. Just my 2 cents.
#91 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2018-12-07 22:05:19
If he is the real ESR, and his writing style appears to confirm this, then his thoughts/observations/suggestions should be considered. Even though I do not agree with all of them.
I do think Devuan has the potential to catapult past the systemd distros, but is this what the dev's want? If not, should they want this? Was this ever considered? How big of a project is Devuan prepared to become, etc...? Has ESR reached out to Devuan via IRC or other methods?
PS: I am usually suspect of offers to help only if you do this first though.....
#92 Re: Other Issues » Problems with Devuan Ascii. » 2018-12-04 21:46:25
Did you have a previous .config for xfce4 from another distro?
Is this a new install? Did this work yesterday and the problem started after etc....?
#93 Re: Devuan » Migrating from Mint » 2018-12-04 21:44:45
ufw enableCheck the status anytime with...
ufw status
[palmtoforhead/] great catch... 
#94 Re: Devuan » Migrating from Mint » 2018-12-02 21:32:57
User friendly is subjective. I, for example, find Devuan and Slackware very user friendly. If you mean hold your hand through every little step of the way, giving you pats on the back for encouragement along with popups saying oops, then no Devuan is not that kind of user friendly. For installing packages, it has apt/synaptic which you should be familiar with...for firewall, UFW is there
apt install ufwthen
ufw default denyand
ufw deny ssh(all as root).
If you want to select just a few programs use the minimal/net installer and customize to your hearts content. Remember, Ubuntu and Mint take from Debian so most can easily be replicated. I mean after all if Ubuntu can do it, how hard can it really be.
#95 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2018-11-26 21:30:33
---redacted--- was going to recommend hooktube as an alternative for youtube, but apparently it's not as private as it used to be, but not as bad as youtube.
#96 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2018-11-25 23:56:40
MegaGlest
https://megaglest.org/
#98 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2018-11-25 02:32:02
I like 0ad and solitaire mostly, chess occasionally but I agree with zephyr that the chess engines like to cheat.
#99 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2018-11-25 02:30:23
I don't play games at all. It's a pointless waste of time.
humbug
#100 Re: Devuan » First impressions in Devuan » 2018-11-25 02:26:30
Unfortunately, only Ian knows what happened and why. Even Bruce's comment on the dyne thread is speculation based on his relationship/history with Ian, however, only Ian knows.
A sad thing about suicide is how terribly it affects those the person left behind.
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