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Hi,
Running Devuan 3.0 'Beowulf' with KDE (Plasma) and it is reporting 4 updates but nothing happens.
larsH wrote:Then you do not need to activate pulseaudio. It is doing nothing today that alsa does not do.
How about autoselecting the non-HDMI output for laptops? ALSA doesn't do that.
(Sorry for the OT, OP.)
Well I hate using the term 'blacklist' but that is what I did to get my Audigy 5 Rx Soundblaster working. Why can't it be named blocklisting and allowlisting instead?
Personally I can't stand Wayland. I am much happier with X running Nouveau drivers - can appreciate it if someone is in to gaming, but I reserve that for the PS4 Pro.
Well this is one of the (many) reasons installing packages from random websites / PPAs / blindly pasting commands from blog posts is considered a bad idea. Doubly so if you do it as root... But then if you're installing random .debs as root you are entirely responsible for your own mess.
swarfendor437 wrote:the file once extracted executed ‘Unix’ commands
Orly, "Unix commands"... As opposed to some other kind of commands, or is that just to sound extra scary?
On a more constructive note, a great many archive utilities can open .deb archives in memory, such as KDE's ark or the good old midnight commander. Personally I find browsing .debs with mc a lot nicer than using dpkg to print the contents, unless I want to pipe the output of course.
I avoid posting the code here to discourage miscreants but it was the code used to remove all contents of the hard drive akin to removing a directory. When I was a moderator on another forum we had spammers posting the same code who had circumvented the phpBB forum as it then was with the heading 'How to speed up your Linux install'.
And bearing in mind opendesktop.org and all its offshoots (Pling.com, KDEdesktop, gnome-look.org all have themes which people may look at and install without deference to any PPA. Any other safe sources for themes?
As HoaS Asked earlier . . . do you have "non-free" enabled in your sources.list?
I think I asked somewhere else about this too - If I add "non-free" sources, am I effectively adding proprietary blobs? If so I will just remove Cinnamon DE - I'm getting into the KDE groove at present.
These should always be inspected before ‘extracting’ as whilst not a virus,
malicious code could be lurking there:
"I always open the debs and check for suspicious post-install scripts
This is how to do that. …
Listing the files from a debian package using dpkg -c
dpkg is the package manager for debian. So using dpkg command you can list
and extract the packages, as shown below.
To view the content of *.deb file:
:
$ dpkg -c ovpc_1.06.94-3_i386.deb
dr-xr-xr-x root/root
0 2010-02-25 10:54 ./
dr-xr-xr-x root/root
0 2010-02-25 10:54 ./ovpc/
dr-xr-xr-x root/root
0 2010-02-25 10:54 ./ovpc/pkg/
dr-xr-xr-x root/root
0 2010-02-25 10:54 ./ovpc/pkg/lib/
dr-xr-xr-x root/root
0 2010-02-25 10:48 ./ovpc/pkg/lib/header/
-r-xr-xr-x root/root
130 2009-10-29 17:06 ./ovpc/pkg/lib/header/libov.so
.
.
.
-r-xr-xr-x root/root
131 2009-10-29 17:06 ./ovpc/pkg/etc/conf
dr-xr-xr-x root/root
0 2010-02-25 10:54 ./ovpc/pkg/etc/conf/log.conf
Extracting the files from a debian package using dpkg -x
Use dpkg -x to extract the files from a deb package as shown below.
:
$ dpkg -x ovpc_1.06.94-3_i386.deb /tmp/ov
$ ls /tmp/ov
ovpc
DEB files are ar archives, which always contains the three files — debian-binary,
control.tar.gz, and data.tar.gz. We can use ar command and tar command to
extract and view the files from the deb package, as shown below.
First, extract the content of *.deb archive file using ar command.
:
$ ar -vx ovpc_1.06.94-3_i386.deb
x - debian-binary
x - control.tar.gz
x - data.tar.gz
$
Next, extract the content of data.tar.gz file as shown below.
:
$ tar -xvzf data.tar.gz
./
./ovpc/
./ovpc/pkg/
./ovpc/pkg/lib/
./ovpc/pkg/lib/header/
./ovpc/pkg/lib/header/libov.so
.
.
./ovpc/pkg/etc/conf
./ovpc/pkg/etc/conf/log.con
"
[With acknowledgement to Blackwolf on ultimateeditionoz.com forum – sadly
the forum is no more].
There was an instance of a GNU/Linux theme uploaded to gnome-look.org
called Ubundows that had not been checked by Admin for that site; the file
once extracted executed ‘Unix’ commands to wipe the hard drive clean of all
content - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
I am beginning to wonder ... do I really need to run VM's at all any more now that I have discovered Devuan, am free of grotesque System.d and bloatware of Pulse Audio from the same author!
Oh, and no more 'snap' and MFI 'flatpak'! Leave it to IKEA!
Hi and thanks for your reply - haven't been ignoring you, been having internet issues which sadly appear to be down to my over-use of PowerLine Adapters interfering with the router!
Here is the result of that last command:
swarfendor437@devuan:~$ su
Password:
root@devuan:/home/swarfendor437# apt install firmware-misc-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package firmware-misc-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package 'firmware-misc-nonfree' has no installation candidate
root@devuan:/home/swarfendor437#
Not sure if this article would help - but I learnt something new 'nmtui'.
https://linuxhint.com/restart_networking_debian_linux/
Not the first part but the Konsole/Terminal screenshots. I changed my settings of eth0 to this (I have discovered that setting the IP address manually helps and use IP reservation in the router (Archer 2800):
Routing (No Custom Routes)
[ ] Never use this network for default route
[ ] Ignore automatically obtained routes
[ ] Ignore automatically obtained DNS parameters
Startpage used to be ixquick - when I looked at startpage after I had searched for ixquick I was soon put off by some message saying about "additonal services" being made available - can't remember the exact wording but it intimated money would have to cross palms. It was gone in a flash - I stick with DuckDuckGo.
I suspect the OP meant looking in the forum/documentation. I searched for this on another distro and the only advice I could find was dependent on dnsmasq being present - and it wasn't so that threw me. Occurred whilst having issues with TT - I have since moved to Zen - much better service.
another GUI suggestion for qemu/kvm (and more...) : virt-manager
Hi xinomilo,
Thanks for your input, appreciated - I did look at that package while searching for qemu in Synaptic Package Manager. Will have to take some time out to look at all this.
Hi Head_pm_a_Stick. Here is the output as requested:
root@devuan:/home/swarfendor437# glxinfo -B
name of display: :0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff)
Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0, 128 bits) (0xffffffff)
Version: 18.3.6
Accelerated: no
Video memory: 16017MB
Unified memory: no
Preferred profile: core (0x1)
Max core profile version: 3.3
Max compat profile version: 3.1
Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0
OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0, 128 bits)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 18.3.6
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 3.30
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
OpenGL version string: 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.40
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 18.3.6
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.00
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:rolfie wrote:I am using VB for many years now, no issues with it. Some people say its crap because its from Oracle.
It's crap because it needs proprietary blobs to work properly, it's slower than QEMU/KVM and the developers have a long history of ignoring security vulnerabilities (which is why it was removed from Debian's stable releases and backports).
@OP: gnome-boxes provides a very easy to use front end for QEMU/KVM.
Seconded, virtualbox has been crap for a long time. Matter of fact, the only version I ever liked was 4.1 which didn't require that infernal non-free watcom compiler
But who knows, it might even have been crap then.
As for if its slower, I am not sure. I haven't used it since 4.1 versions. That was during ubuntu 14.04's life span.
Glad its been removed, surprised though, I thought Debian would have kept it longer.
If you want to use qemu this is a better option and should be stickied for a long time to come.
:
This is what I do:qemu-img create -f qcow2 name-of.qcow2 100g
In the directory where you made your image put your iso and:
sudo kvm -m (amount of memory for VM, i.e. 2048) -cdrom (name of image, i.e., gnuinos.iso) -boot d name-of.qcow2
To start the image after install do:
sudo kvm -m (amount of memory for VM, i.e. 2048) name-of.qcow2
This is a guide I "borrowed" from gnuinos libre topic.
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Aka, not my idea.
Edited it to be a qcow2 image though... ;P
Hi zapper,
thanks for the impromptu lesson on qemu - I'm going to have to stop being lazy and get into the habit of learning CLI - I was just getting into Amiga CLI when I took delivery of my first Windows PC a Pentium P120 (Now an archived AMD 400 Evergreen processor sits in it!). Hope you don't mind me pointing out an error in your sig:
"Haughtiness comes before a fall, pride before destruction." ;-)
rolfie wrote:I am using VB for many years now, no issues with it. Some people say its crap because its from Oracle.
It's crap because it needs proprietary blobs to work properly, it's slower than QEMU/KVM and the developers have a long history of ignoring security vulnerabilities (which is why it was removed from Debian's stable releases and backports).
@OP: gnome-boxes provides a very easy to use front end for QEMU/KVM.
Many thanks again Head_on_a_Stick for this information. I appreciate it. We all have to take security very seriously in these trying times.
Can you use Gnome Boxes in a KDE environment? I've fallen in love again with KDE (Plasma) - the wallpapers are outstanding.
Thanks for getting back to me. Appreciate it.
I am using VB for many years now, no issues with it. Some people say its crap because its from Oracle. Ok.
Tried qemu, and did not have the features I used to have with VB: a good and useful graphical tools to administer, easy pass through of USB drives, shared folders. And it looked liked I could not reliably use it, it crashed on me spontaneously several times. So I dropped my try.
To pass through USB you have to install the extension pack, without it would not work. And you need to be in the vboxusers group. If I remember correctly on Beowulf I had to load some modules. That wasn't required with ASCII. Got an old XP and a Win7 virtual machine working fine for me (and I use VB to try Linux distros and new versions like Chimaera in VB).
If you need support give us a shout.
rolfie
Hi rolfie,
I know all about the extensions pack - it wasn't until a user on the other OS forum I used to partake had a similar issue - (Gnome DE) - USB was not working - needed 'gnome-tools' - I did that (don't know what KDE needs cf. gnome-tools) but in KDE created a USB filter and labelled it I: to ensure no clashes with other device names but it just does not pickup either USB 3.0 port or USB 2.0 port when I put my SanDisk Ultra 64 Gb stick in - shows up in Host obviously. I was hoping I could cut and paste from downloads in guest OS to Host OS without much success which is what I would really like to achieve. Thanks for responding too.
swarfendor437 wrote:I've tried searching the forum using "Alternatives to Virtual Box" but not coming up with anything. ... Do people find Qemu workable?
It seems so:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=19495#p19495swarfendor437 wrote:I don't want to go down the VMWare
I dont need VMWare since a lot time. In 2005 I had to buy a license because I did not find an alternative. Not needed anymore. YMMV.
Thanks for your reply - I will give it a try (have installed the packages already) and see how it fares - if it gets too icky - I may return to VB like rolfie.
Hi rolfie, thanks for the input - any particular issue with qemu et al? My current issue with VB on another distro is that even though I have told it to mound USB (vhd) it won't and like Devuan, am using KDE running Windows 7 Pro 32-bit VM, purely for work purposes. I need it to access Office 365 (Outlook) purely to access a work request mailbox. I downloaded the mailbox (.pst) for it today but can't transfer to the host to import to Evolution. I will give VB a try again - any reason why some users don't like it? Is it because it is Oracle?
Hi Head_on_a_Stick - as my profile states, I've been using GNU/Linux for 18 years - and still learning! I will try and get on the steep learning curve! Based on what the terminal returned I don't have the firmware-misc-nonfree - while replying, does this mean I'm on a hiding to nothing with nouveau drivers? Thanks for your continued help.
[I've signed up for a free imgbb account - hope this has no java! - updated image link accordingly in earlier post but will use returned code in future. Thanks.]
swarfendor437 wrote:Thanks for replying but that does not work
I'm sorry. It seems to me that your install is kind of broken. Of course you can reinstall (I did it a couple of times years ago), no problem. But most likely it can be fixed.
The file /etc/apt/sources.list should be owned by root. Once that is fixed, you can try the commands that gdebi-gtk suggests.
I think that you are taking about the file virtualbox-6.1_6.1.16-140961~Debian~buster_amd64.deb. It should work on your Beowulf box. I have installed VB from deb archive a lot of times (not on Beowulf): it works, but you need to compile a few kernel modules afterward (there is an assistant for this). If the tildes on the name are a problem, just rename the file after download it again.
Also, you can find in this very forum options to VB. A lot of people here dislike VB and explain alternatives that can work for you.
I've tried searching the forum using "Alternatives to Virtual Box" but not coming up with anything. I don't want to go down the VMWare root as last time I looked (many years ago) it was quite pricey. Do people find Qemu workable? Thanks for your help by the way.
Thanks for the information. Will Devuan "Beowulf" get an update for non-sighted users?
Hi Head_on_a_Stick,
Apologies - I was trying to kill 2 terminals with one screenshot! I use pCloud because my Box account after using for 12 months on another distro for which I wrote the unofficial manual for, was, after users had complained that their download was not working but Box was touting for Business I complained and was promptly told that Box a. Does not support GNU/Linux and b. Does not support Firefox - both of which I had used for uploading my unofficial manual for others to download, so I opted for pCloud following advice from another user of the same OS. Someone recommended another Cloud storage service but that one also doesn't support GNU/Linux. No I don't have that package installed and my attempt to use the terminal to install it proves fruitless so would welcome advice. And thanks for all your help - it is appreciated.
Hi Head_on_a_Stick,
Thanks for your quick response. According to my machine I already have the mesa-utils installed. The output of
glxinfo -B
is in the screenshot below:
Hi,
I don't need Assistive Technology but because it is an area I work in/with, I wanted to see how well (or otherwise) it would go during a reinstallation. It picked up the Sound Blaster Audigy Rx fine at the start but after that the option for languages meant you could not see the top half of the screen as only 2 columns - if you have ever used a system rescue disc or other minimal distro - the language choices are spread over 5 columns in a terminal window - something to consider. As from memory 40 = UK/en-GB I entered that and then got a screen full of white squares with only a few options in actual readable text - looked at the bug report but not sure where it should go.
Was surprised that some members not aware of pulseaudio and systemd written by the same 'person' to put it nicely. Because most of his stuff is bloatware I wonder if he worked for M$ at one point! :->
And why name a running process rt-kit daemon? Apart from bad naming on another forum thread I read it was a potential security hole in respect of real-time processing!