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#76 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-20 18:39:16

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Debuser2018 wrote:

@Head_on_a_Stick: I had added the ceres deb-src lines in sources.list and apt update ran. When I search, this is the output:

Reading package lists... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for openrc

You should show the actual line that you used and also the output of the apt update command so that we could see if it was being read. I did build the package successfully from the ceres source in a Devuan beowulf live environment so it definitely works and you don't need to use any Debian sources.

But anyway that probably belongs in another thread, we've got diverted somewhat here.

Problem already solved. smile Please check above post.  I built from Devuan Ceres sources. I added the single line:

deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main

and can pull the sources fine.

The problem earlier was, I uncommented so many lines in sources.list that looked like:

deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-security main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-updates main non-free contrib

Anyways, now everything works fine. Booting with openRC-0.42-1 .

#77 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-20 16:25:23

Yes. Rebuilt packages. Thanks for the help @Head_on_a_Stick . I had added deb-src for ceres with "main non-free contrib" format. That may be why it did not work earlier.

Installed libeinfo1, librc1, openrc-0.42 and rebooted. It is working fine so far now. ?

openrc:
  Installed: 0.42-1~bpo10+1

#78 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-20 15:25:31

Do  I need to edit debian/control file to remove libaudit-dev,libselinux1-dev
//sorry for multiple q's since I last built deb binaries a long time ago.

#79 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-20 15:19:54

@Head_on_a_Stick: I had added the ceres deb-src lines in sources.list and apt update ran. When I search, this is the output:

Reading package lists... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for openrc

I downloaded the source from Debian testing for openrc-0.42 and following packages are built. But..the build utility was warning about some useless dependencies may be removed?

libeinfo1_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb
libeinfo1-dbgsym_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb
libeinfo-dev_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb
librc1_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb
librc1-dbgsym_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb
librc-dev_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb
openrc_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb
openrc_0.42-1~bpo10+1.debian.tar.xz
openrc_0.42-1.debian.tar.xz
openrc-dbgsym_0.42-1~bpo10+1_amd64.deb

dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: package could avoid a useless dependency if debian/libeinfo1/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeinfo.so.1 was not linked against libselinux.so.1 (it uses none of the library's symbols)
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: package could avoid a useless dependency if debian/libeinfo1/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeinfo.so.1 was not linked against libaudit.so.1 (it uses none of the library's symbols)
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: package could avoid a useless dependency if debian/librc1/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librc.so.1 was not linked against libaudit.so.1 (it uses none of the library's symbols)
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: package could avoid a useless dependency if debian/librc1/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librc.so.1 was not linked against libselinux.so.1 (it uses none of the library's symbols)

#80 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-20 14:24:49

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Debuser2018 wrote:

Debian has 0.42 version of OpenRC available. Can we use the sources from the Debian version of OpenRC and rebuild it?

That version is available from Devuan's ceres repositories so you can grab the source from there and rebuild it for a beowulf base, follow this Debian wiki guide:

https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation

I've just tried that in my Debian buster box and it builds fine.

I do actually have an old OpenRC version in my OBS repository but I can't remember my password and the reset facility isn't working at the moment, I'll edit this post with a link once I get into it and update the package.

I checked the pool and there is no openRC packages there for Ceres. From what I understands, Devuan repositories uses Debian repos for most other packages? Will you share the Ceres version of openRC?

apt source openrc/ceres

Reading package lists... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for openrc

Hmm.. I think I will have to get openRC source for Beowulf and patch it with Debian OpenRC?

#81 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-20 08:16:47

Does anyone packaged the last release of OpenRC (0.42.x) for Beowulf? OR is there any guide to build OpenRC debian packages including debianizing the source.

Debian has 0.42 version of OpenRC available. Can we use the sources from the Debian version of OpenRC and rebuild it? OR if the .debs are directly installable?
Thank you.

#82 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-18 19:32:01

MiyoLinux wrote:

Look at the file...

/etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf

...After following the instructions, reboot. wink

Great! Thanks for that. So, this line needs to be commented out to get pulseaudio working.
--
Now, almost everything looks fine with Devuan.
I was almost convinced that Gnome 3.x will not work without systemd. But, proven wrong!

#83 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-18 03:52:15

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That PA problem has cropped up a few times recently, search the boards for the solutions.

I'm using "pulseaudio -D" in the config file to fix this behaviour. If I pull the pulseaudio packages from Chimaera, any chances if this is fixed? Anyways, I'm happy that Devuan is just working fine so far now.  yikes

#84 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-17 15:11:16

I selected gdm3 as display manager. Now, wayland session is working fine.

:~$ loginctl show-session 1 -p Type
Type=wayland

Now, the only thing is pulseaudio not starting at boot time.

:~$ start-pulseaudio-x11 
Connection failure: Connection refused
pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused

#85 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-17 14:26:58

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Debuser2018 wrote:

a way to get Gnome to use wayland?

First log out from the graphical session, login to a console and stop LightDM:

# service lightdm stop

Then try

MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland exec dbus-run-session gnome-session

The first two variables are to make Firefox & Qt applications run under Wayland, the third variable should force GNOME to start a Wayland session.

If it works then create a file at ~/.xsession containing that line and select the "default X session" from LightDM. Not sure if LightDM can actually launch a Wayland session though so you might have to disable LightDM entirely and switch to a console login instead.

To automatically launch a Wayland GNOME session after a console login to TTY1 add this line to the end of the file at ~/.profile:

[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ] && MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland exec dbus-run-session gnome-session

It did not work out. Terminal output full about inotify error message.

Now, Pulseaudio works fine, if I run "pulseaudio -D". But, does pulseaudio has a init script or is there any config file where I need to enable startup.
EDIT: OK. I'm not an expert. I just put "pulseaudio -D" appended into the gnome-session file - /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc . I don't know if pulseaudio config has option to do that. When I checked /etc/pulse/daemon.conf everything looked fine.

But,  start-pulseaudio-x11 inside /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop fails, it seems - Failure: Module initialization failed

Regarding wayland. Any dependencies which may be needed?

#86 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-17 12:49:41

Thanks. Forgot to add that pulseaudio did not start at boot time.

#87 Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2020-06-17 11:17:10

Debuser2018
Replies: 21

Thankfully Gnome shell is working fine with Beowulf now. Hope everything is OK. OpenRC as init. I am using Gnome-3.30 in wayland. It works fine in both wayland or Xorg backends.

I had KDE5 on ASCII. I removed KDE packages and qt dependencies and cleared some config folder (. folders) in the ~/ . Using gdm3. Great to see libsystemd0 also removed. I have listed the installed packages.
https://paste.debian.net/1153051/
(Please mind that mine is bloated desktop with almost 1900 packages installed. It's just to give an idea of what Gnome packages are installed)

Although, there is a pseudo package "task-gnome-desktop" that seems to pull a lot of packages unrelated as well. I tried manually installing core Gnome packages.

But, it works only on X. No wayland support, I guess. Also, the lightdm options shows 3 Gnome options apart from fallback. None of them works except Gnome on X. Anyways, it is mounting partitions, usb drives all fine. Thanks for the elogind and it's developers for that wonderful piece of software that allowed to purge systemd deps completely. I did not try gdm3, since earlier HOWTO's in the forum suggest not to go for that.
If anyone figure out, a way to get Gnome to use wayland? I did not succeed.
EDIT: I changed to gdm3 as display manager and both wayland and Xorg sessions supported.

  • I am also using latest Firefox from ubuntuzilla repo.

  • For Pulseuadio to work, edit /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf and comment the line

    #autospawn=no

    (Thanks to @MiyoLinux for the heads up.)

Here are some screenshots from fresh upgrade from ASCII to Beowulf with Gnome 3.30:

Screenshot-from-2020-06-17-16-39-49.png
Screenshot-from-2020-06-17-16-39-32.png
Screenshot-from-2020-06-17-16-07-35.png
Screenshot-from-2020-06-17-16-06-58.png
upload pic

#88 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-11-20 08:49:49

May be no one hear enjoy Hindi/Urdu songs. Mine favourite is this song from Guide (1965):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM98lgeku80

#89 Hardware & System Configuration » "Free cluster summary wrong" every boot for EFI fat corruption » 2018-11-20 07:01:23

Debuser2018
Replies: 0

In Devuan ASCII, with EFI Fat partition /dev/sda1 on an Intel 330 SSD while Devuan is installed on  a Seagate SATA hard drive in /dev/sdb7, I get this warning message every time:

Checking file systems...fsck from util-linux 2.29.2
fsck.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24)
Free cluster summary wrong (354634 vs. really 354636)
  Auto-correcting.
Performing changes. 
/dev/sda1: 277 files. 50646/405282 clusters
fsck exited with status code 1
done.

This looks like on each boot EFI partition getting corrupt? This SSD unfortunately has no firmware updates available. Any solution.

#90 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-27 09:29:44

Thank you for all the work to keep us experience a systemd free simple Linux and userland with Devuan. Wish to see more Debian/Utnubu/antiX developers collaborate to sanitize Debian packages out of the systemd. I hope antiX developers at least will connect to Devuan now.

Slight OT: But, what kind of ridiculous reasons are they claiming in Debian mailing lists to enforce systemd? Is there someone putting a revolver on their back to enforce systemd? Yeah, most of us know.

#91 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: lightdm (with libpam-elogind) + xfce4 (ASCII/Stable) » 2018-10-22 06:26:06

Thank you for the HOWTO. I have to install lxdm to get power/restart buttons work with Cinnamon. Now lightdm works. I did have to edit lightdm configuration to achieve the desired options, though.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12387#p12387

#92 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Cinnamon or Gnome 3 with Devuan ASCII with apt-pinning » 2018-10-22 06:05:30

UPDATE: I followed https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11114#p11114 and installed lightdm. Now, lightdm works after commenting out "session   optional pam_systemd.so" and adding    session   "optional pam_elogind.so" in /etc/pam.d/lightdm-greeter . Then, I did a sudo telinit 1 and returned to runlevel 2 - lightdm worked! Restart, shutdown buttons now works! Thanks to @fred43 for the helpful HOWTO. IMHO, Some info about using elogind and pam, policykit for Gnome, Cinnamon, XFCE etc with lightdm and other greeters should be added in the main page.

To add user list to lightdm, you have to edit /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/01_debian.conf and change "greeter-hide-users=true" to "greeter-hide-users=false".

I also installed lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings and executed "lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings-pkexec" and this is how it looks now:
25HM5y.png

#93 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2018-09-30 19:07:44

Devuan Ascii with Cinnamon desktop. Network config with Wicd. Input method is ibus.

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#94 Re: Installation » Migration from Bunsenlabs debian to ASCII » 2018-09-27 12:37:22

HextorBRX wrote:

You may want to contact kleiner_husar because he has done it already: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2120 Please send me a message if you know how to do it. It will give me a head start.

P.S. I am reading the Release Notes (better late than never) and I guess I was wrong about the default DM for KDE and LXQt.

XFCE: slim + consolekit
Cinnamon: lightdm + elogind
KDE: lightdm + elogind
LXQT: lightdm + elogind
MATE: slim + consolekit

Weird, sddm has been developed by the KDE and LXQt teams.

For me, Cinnamon worked with LXDM only. Lightdm has shutdown, restart buttons grayed out. Polkit issues.

#95 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Cinnamon or Gnome 3 with Devuan ASCII with apt-pinning » 2018-09-23 15:46:15

ChuangTzu wrote:
Debuser2018 wrote:

OpenRC version is very old - 0.23.x in ASCII . Latest version available in Devuan is that of Debian - 0.34-3. OpenRC latest is 0.38.x

So, If I manually install OpenRC 0.34-3, librc1 from Beowulf, will it be OK? Is there a way, I can manually download openRC from Beowulf repositories without adding beowulf to sources.list? Is the packages originates from Debian Buster?

What feature is in .34-3 that is not in .23?  In other words, why do you "need" the newer version?

I just thought seeing the version number, it is really old. That's all. Never knew about Devuanisation of these packages aren't yet reached in Beowulf.

#96 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Cinnamon or Gnome 3 with Devuan ASCII with apt-pinning » 2018-09-23 12:49:30

OpenRC version is very old - 0.23.x in ASCII . Latest version available in Devuan is that of Debian - 0.34-3. OpenRC latest is 0.38.x

So, If I manually install OpenRC 0.34-3, librc1 from Beowulf, will it be OK? Is there a way, I can manually download openRC from Beowulf repositories without adding beowulf to sources.list? Is the packages originates from Debian Buster?

#97 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Cinnamon or Gnome 3 with Devuan ASCII with apt-pinning » 2018-09-23 04:34:12

ChuangTzu wrote:

openRC is working fine here on ASCII.

Did you choose openRC during the installation or converted to it?

#98 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Cinnamon or Gnome 3 with Devuan ASCII with apt-pinning » 2018-09-22 21:15:54

Thank you for your answers @fsmithred.
BTW, at this point, how is OpenRC integration in Devuan? Is it an easy conversion from sysV to OpenRC. And, is OpenRC parallel start supported in Devuan.

#99 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Cinnamon or Gnome 3 with Devuan ASCII with apt-pinning » 2018-09-21 17:16:27

How do I replicate this Devuan Ascii installation on other systems? Is there a way, to create a list of packages that are installed currently and installed during installation?

#100 Re: Installation » No sound in firefox-esr 60.2 » 2018-09-18 11:08:59

I'm using ubuntuzilla repository for new firefox quantum (62.0) in Devuan ASCII. It installs into /opt and so far working good.
https://sourceforge.net/p/ubuntuzilla/w … stallation

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