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#26 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-28 01:37:39

Hi guys

Altho I am still happy with my internal boot speed. Seeing others have some similar issues to me I thought I might search for the udev error.

I got a hit or 2 from a systemd based distro but they are discussing lvm2, and I do not use lvm.
Before I editted my last reply....I thought it might because of my AMD motherboard which asks users to have specific usb lead kb and mouse in ports next to the PS/2 connector.

So I did test swapping the leads to other connectors on my tower....no change.

I then deleted lvm2.......no change...but I restored that image for the moment.

but it might still be my hard drive set up.

su
/sbin/blkid
/dev/sda1: LABEL="s1" UUID="hidden" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="hidden"
/dev/sda2: LABEL="sswap" UUID="hidden" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="hidden"
/dev/sda3: LABEL="s3" UUID="hidden" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="hidden"
second drive not relevant

In the install process I opted out of UUID fstab....then changed to a fstab like this

LABEL=s1 / ext4    defaults,noatime    0    1
LABEL=sswap none    swap    sw         0    0
LABEL=s3 /s3 ext4 users,rw            0     2

s3 is my data partition....I do not have a separate boot or home. I use fsarchiver to save restore images to s3 using a live usb.

Finally I should mention....this hard drive use to sit in a tradition MBR motherboard and my new mobo only allows me to choose CSM or UEFI....I choose CSM as I have no efi partition.

This may all be irrelevant, but what I am trying to say, it might be my setup that causes udev some issues?

EDIT
just rebooted with an UUID fstab no change to udev delays

thanks for reading

#27 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 05:56:17

@fsmithred

Yikes  sorry for wasting time. I was using the iso dated Mar 11
downloading your newer one now.

post 56 does not show my atime date. So I mislead you.

EDIT

similar results for the iso dated 2020-03-25

I am not going to pursue this any further. My SSD boots up with decent speed.

cheers

#28 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 01:17:17

Yep, just running live - not carrying into install.
I don't get it

Yes I am in the process of installing on a HP intel onboard graphics and have no such usb mouse freeze.

so I booted my tower back up...mouse still freezes and the only log that shows some strangeness is below
original name /var/log/boot

(Nothing has been logged yet. If you're still seeing this message your current init system might not write bootup messages to the system console at all.)
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [....] Activating swap...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [....] Creating compatibility symlink from /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts. ...??7[warn8?? (warning).
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files... /tmp??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [....] Starting early crypto disks...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [info] Loading kernel module lp.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [info] Loading kernel module ppdev.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [info] Loading kernel module parport_pc.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:23 2020: [....] Setting up LVM Volume Groups...  WARNING: Device /dev/loop0 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:43 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:54 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:04 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda2 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:14 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda3 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:24 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdb not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:34 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdb1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:44 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdb2 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:54 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdc not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:37:04 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdc1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:37:14 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/loop0 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:37:24 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:37:34 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda2 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:37:44 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda3 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:37:54 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdb1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:04 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdb2 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:14 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sdc1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:14 2020: ??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:14 2020: [....] Starting remaining crypto disks...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:14 2020: [....] Checking file systems...fsck from util-linux 2.33.1
Fri Mar 27 00:38:14 2020: ??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:14 2020: [....] Mounting local filesystems...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:14 2020: [....] Activating swapfile swap...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:15 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files...??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:15 2020: [....] Starting: AppArmor[....] $Mounting securityfs on /sys/kernel/security??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:15 2020: [....] Loading AppArmor profiles...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: ??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Starting Setting kernel variables: sysctl??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Configuring network interfaces...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Starting RPC port mapper daemon: rpcbind??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files...??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Setting up ALSA...??7[ ok 8??done (none loaded).
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Setting sensors limits...No sensors found!
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: No sensors found!
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: ??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Setting up X socket directories... /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: INIT: Entering runlevel: 2
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Setting up console font and keymap...??7[ ok 8??done.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Starting LVM2 poll daemon: lvmpolld??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:18 2020: [....] Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting ACPI services: acpid??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting anac(h)ronistic cron: anacron??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting periodic command scheduler: cron??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting system message bus: dbus??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon: avahi-daemon??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting CUPS Bonjour daemon: cups-browsed??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting session management daemon: elogind??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:19 2020: [....] Starting MTA: exim4??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:20 2020: [....] Starting MD monitoring service: mdadm --monitor??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:20 2020: [....] Starting NTP server: ntpd??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:20 2020: [....] Starting SANE network scanner server: saned??7[ ok 8??.
Fri Mar 27 00:38:20 2020: [....] Starting slim: slim??7[ ok 8??.

dmesg does not show any funniness for usb mouse...I have full log if anyone needs to see it

[    1.791807] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[    1.791922] usbhid: USB HID core driver
[    1.793671] input: Logitech USB Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.2/0000:12:00.0/usb1/1-3/1-3:1.0/0003:046D:C05A.0001/input/input3
[    1.793940] hid-generic 0003:046D:C05A.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:12:00.0-3/input0

I am guessing the motherboard AMD and that kernel did not want to party as...my SSD boot file contains similar udev messages,
the difference of course is I see a fairly fast boot up compared to usb boot up which seems to take ages in comparison

#29 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-26 04:17:43

and I won't do a bug report because its easy to fix,
but I flashed an usb stick with my above iso

booting up to live, my usb mouse froze.
pulling and re-inserting it fixed it instantly.

I have no such glitches on the hard drive install.

Thanks for reading.

#30 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-26 04:13:38

fsmithred wrote:

snip

apt purge pulseaudio avahi-daemon
apt autoremove

is easy.

Hi

Won't that break wireless printing setup that uses avahi?

I have installed to hard drive
devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_amd64_desktop-live.iso

#31 Off-topic » youtube parody of Downfall movie .....Devuan is born » 2020-03-25 13:00:03

aus9
Replies: 3

There are a number of Downfall parodies, this discusses systemd and where to for some.
Movie modded 2014 about 8.25 mins

I am here so I have already cast my lot.

https://youtu.be/VSbNumR9Z8k

#32 Re: Documentation » Multiple Sound Cards » 2020-03-24 09:57:19

@GlennW

If the info does not yet help you...try this
create a file to blacklist you internal sound module, on reboot only your inserted USB device is detected. I have not forced it to index=0 but here is my test result

aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 1: Device [USB PnP Sound Device], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

If I want internal sound then I use root powers to modprobe as per

#  /sbin/modprobe snd_hda_intel

that changes my indices but who cares.....anyhow here is file contents

cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-intel.conf 
blacklist snd_hda_intel

The reason we blacklist....is because USB devices take time to settle and time taken by udev etc.

EDIT
I should add....having come from a debian based distro...that uses a package called
alsa-base
--> that had alsa-base.conf in my old distro modprobe.d dir
with various configs to stop USB devices grabbing anything nice

#33 Re: Documentation » Multiple Sound Cards » 2020-03-24 06:26:57

Hi

there is some good info here. I am an alsa guy but still tend to use PA as I use firefox.

Here is an alternative GUI to disable HDMI in PA where you are using 3.5mm leads from analog sound device.

first here is my aplay without any swapping...clean install

aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

Note the name is Generic for both cards.....now run the pavucontrol GUI
as per screenshot...for those interested. But no need to click as I describe it

top line  HD Audio Generic 
bottom line same name

but the top line is for first detected card, that is card with index=0 which is HDMI

so pulldown the top line to choose Off

hope that helps the newbies.

https://imgur.com/yAhgb7L

and the card 1 for analog should be stereo duplex unless you are using multiple connectors to a surround sound system

Good Luck

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