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If you have issues regarding screen brightness and printing just open separate threads about it and we will fix it.
I noticed already and installed the new package mate-power-manager but from ascii-backports because I use the newer Mate 1.18 packages and can confirm the bug by OP. Also the battery icon, when present on the panel, is just an exclamation sign.
Probably take a little longer but full upgrade to ceres on a base ascii installation from netinstall is the way i would do it.
I would do the same.
Simply install Devuan with nothing, only the base system, and then edit the sources list to ceres and do a dist-upgrade.
Later add your window manager or preferred desktop.
If you do not want to wait for mate-power-manager to be accepted into stable you could use the xfce4-power-manager in the meantime to set the screen settings. It will handle dpms settings for you.
I guess mate-power-manager is still in proposed. I usually do not add proposed to my sources list, some do and you can test some newer fixes for packages before they go into stable. Probably not recommended on mission critical systems but the quality of the packages is usually top notch.
I can see version 5 in ascii-backports:
apt policy virtualbox
virtualbox:
Installiert: (keine)
Installationskandidat: 5.2.10-dfsg-6~bpo9+1
Versionstabelle:
5.2.10-dfsg-6~bpo9+1 100
100 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports/contrib amd64 Packages
That should do the trick by installing it this way as root or with sudo:
apt install -t ascii-backports virtualbox
Edit: Of course before being able to install from backports you have to add them to your /etc/apt/sources.list.
Obviously Jesse was not installing Debian very often as the default Xfce desktop looks and acts just like when you install Debian, in a sense already mentioned here calling it "universal".
I always install from a netinstall, so the procedure was not different from Debian. Maybe the Refracta installer is not the best choice if you have to use the live ISO. The thing is that many people of course will go with the live version because it is available and shows already how your hardware works with it.
Other derivatives use still the Debian installer from a live environment and I think it is almost bullet proof. Though you can always make things better and there are others based on Debian with their own installers.
So he basically complained about the initial setup but then it was a relatively positive review. But in all honesty I never took Distrowatch very seriously.
What he probably means with "conservative" is that the pace is slower, with older, reliable, tested and stable software. Yep, that sounds like old-school Debian to me, quite positive. It is also true that you can use flatpaks to spice up your system. I know not everybody is a fan of it but hey, there is another choice to add some newer components to your stable system and it does not depend on systemd, if you want and really need to.
If someone enters your establishment and trashes the place, you don't allow them to remain on condition they wear a sign over their head. You boot them out and be done with it. That's really the only two options you have - allow them to remain or boot them out.
A very good point. I see no reason to have "troll" members in the forum or when somebody comes here to register and see the forums has a bunch of "default" trolls participating in the community. That is no good promotion.
Also the administrators are here to control and decide, that is why they have mod powers. It is not the task of forum members to "police" the forums. Sure they can report such behavior and help out but if everybody has the power to make someone a troll then it can rapidly get out of control and the outcome will be the opposite.
It would be better that mods and administrators decide together who is the troll and how to deal with him/her and then just ban them or delete their accounts. There is no point of marking members as unwanted but still have them here wearing a sign.
Yes. antofox maintains MATE for Devuan.
That is great news.
Though I am using 1.18 from ascii-backports and I am happy with it. Of course at the moment I am still using it with xfce-power-manager.
I am looking forward to Mate 1.20 especially if they fixed some problems with Gtk3.
I do not use it personally but it is another choice the user gets. Nothing more. Why are people always so easily offended is beyond me.
Congratulations!
Happy computing to everybody.
I guess "Universal Operating System" applies here.
There is only so much to do after installing as the user sees fit.
Of course every individual will have his/her own preferences and you could ask every one of them what they consider important post-install.
Normally you should use apt-get dist-upgrade. That would have upgraded to the newer kernel version automatically and of course remove the older one.
apt-get upgrade is not doing that. It never removes older packages. In this case I would say it is save to do so because it is a security update to an already existing package, here the kernel 3.16. And that is why you probably won't see the older kernel in Grub. Because it is still in the same family or meta package that is called linux-image-amd64.
Now if I install a kernel from backports it would be added as a new option to the Grub menu and it would install a new package instead of only upgrading the existing one. For Jessie that is kernel image 4.9.
I hope I explained it well. It can be confusing.
The system will take care of Grub. You do not have to do anything.
I use the package unifont to avoid those empty boxes in whatever language that is not Western or European.
I prefer just using apt because the syntax is shorter but apt-get is not deprecated and it should make no difference in this case.
Congrats to "the winner".
Wow. That was quick. Nice!
mate-system-monitor is in the Ascii repos.
I like both Mate and Xfce but as of late slightly prefer Mate. Everybody has his/her preference but making compton work in Mate or in Xfce is just the same. The problem is using a preconfigured compton.conf and probably the default compositor at the same time.
OK, let's do it this way, if you want. I know how to make Compiz working but I guess we prefer a more simple and minimal approach. It works here on Mate Devuan Ascii installed from backports but it should also work on Mate 1.16.
I would suggest you remove the compton config you made or have, will be easier for me.
Firstly go to the Mate Control Center, to Windows and disable the built-in compositor, that could also be what was interfering.
Then start compton from the terminal with OpenGL:
compton -b --backend glx
That's it.
Do you see the appended -b, that makes an application running from terminal even if you close that terminal, so you do not kill the process.
Now take that command from above and put it into your autostart. Open again the control center and go to start programs and add it there.
It should look like this:
Report back.
Edit: One more thing. If compton was or is already running, kill it like mentioned, killall compton, before proceeding with my solution.
It is not a driver problem btw, at least not really, it is a vsync issue on Intel cards that is not present if you use a compositor that uses OpenGL by default like Mutter, Muffin, KWin or Compiz. Xfce has the same problem. Mate 1.20 fixed that finally.
Here a nice read from the compton dev:
The tearing issue with Mate and Intel is known. They fixed it upstream for Mate 1.20 if you use the built-in compositor.
If you use the built-in compositor on older versions of Mate like in Devuan you will experience tearing. I disable it but that does not change that you will see tearing by scrolling in Firefox.
The solution is to force hardware acceleration in Firefox and even then you will see some slightly tearing hear and there but it will stop it on HTML5 content.
You can of course use compton as it resolves all tearing but you have to use OpenGL, that works here. See man compton, there are a ton of options, or if you want I will pass you my configs. You can easily add compton to your autostart by putting the exact command you would use to start compton with your specified options.
And yes, there is even another option, using Compiz, either from the regular Devuan repos or from backports. But it is more heavyweight. You have to start it, put it in your autostart and install the Mate Compiz compatibility settings. If you need further assistance just leave me a shout.
Zephyr, wow I was not even aware that it was made by Steven Steigman.
Nice and minimal Openbox setup MSI.
Thanks for the comments.
@ ivanovnegro: Very cool wallpaper, seen the image before without the color...is it a custom wallpaper?
It is not custom, it was pulled from the web. It is an Argentinian musician, therefore you probably saw it somewhere else.
Quite sexy. Can you share the configuration for the topbar? I just run mine as a small "while" script, but I'm interested to see how conky could pull this off.
Right now I am on the Thinkpad but I have a minimal sample .conkyrc that I use for window managers with their own status bar:
# super simple conky for wms that have their own status bar (spectrwm, dwm)
# this file is provided with NO GUARANTEE and NO SUPPORT
# if it does not do what you want, FIX IT YOURSELF
out_to_x no
background no
out_to_console yes
update_interval 5
total_run_times 0
use_spacer none
top_name_width 5
short_units
TEXT
M:$mem / C:$cpu% ${hwmon 0 tempf 1}F / D:${fs_used /} / ${time %l:%M %P %a %d %b}
Of course you need to install and start conky.
Did you try with apt?
This version is in the repos:
3.0.2-0+deb9u1 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages
I do not even have aptitude installed on my system.