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#3051 Re: Other Issues » How to mirror ascii? » 2017-07-26 16:30:37
golinux wrote:Since the devs don't have time to babysit this forum,
Babysit?
Someday I will come up with an answer to that and it will be with a noteworthy interest rate!
:-P
LOL! Looking forward to something 'noteworthy'!!
The "Codename:" problem still is unanswered.
Trying to debmirror a dist with wrong codename results in mirroring the dist matching that codename...
That can't be correct!
Have you filed a bug report? Or tried to contact a dev on #devuan or #devuan-dev? It is unlikely anyone who could fix this would see it here.
#3052 Re: Other Issues » How to mirror ascii? » 2017-07-26 14:26:48
Since the devs don't have time to babysit this forum, I took the initiative to ask for you. Here's the answer:
<golinux> You might want to have a quick look at this: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3675#p3675
<Centurion_Dan> we don't provide rsync access to the packages at this stage.
You might want to read more about amprolla. It's just a search away if you would care to try:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla
#3053 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Menu fix if a user has upgraded to Ascii... » 2017-07-26 02:21:51
Maybe try logging out and back in? Always looking for the easiest solution . . .
#3054 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Menu fix if a user has upgraded to Ascii... » 2017-07-26 01:56:28
Was a reinstall even necessary? I have switched out config files and maybe I'll have to restart the app but have never had to reinstall.
#3055 Re: Devuan » Status of releases and details of packages » 2017-07-25 15:22:30
1. Do you plan a page comparable to "http://packages.debian.org/"? I regularly have the need to find which package a specific file is inside. As long as I use jessie, the results from Debian will be good enough, but I assume as soon as I switch to ascii, there will be no workaround.
Someone is working on providing package info. WIP is here: http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/releases
2. Do you plan an overview of the status of the releases? For example: just because I'm curious, I created a VM, made a fresh install of jessie and upgraded to ascii. I have the feeling ascii is far from being stable (which is not surprising me!), but I don't find a place I could verify my feeling.
There is no status overview available but there have been plenty of discussions here and on irc. rsyslog is one of the problems. Search https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/ for the workaround until that pkg is fixed. But many are using ASCII and even testing alternate inits on it. Depends on your use case, of course.
#3056 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Dell XPS 13 9360 ("Developer Edition") and ascii or ceres vs Debian 9 » 2017-07-25 06:03:38
Keep in mind that ASCII is the equivalent of Debian Stretch. And atm there is no 'testing' option available on Devuan (except for sid). Eventually Beowulf will track Buster but it is not set up at this time.
#3057 Re: Devuan » Stretch is coming, Devuan status backported or up to date packages » 2017-07-24 23:23:25
A little humility is necessary there are many houses here
Perhaps you should follow your own advice.
DEVUAN ITS FOR USERS OR FOR THE FORUM ADMINS AND FRIENDS?
Devuan is for anyone - there are many use cases - and your insinuations and accusations are hostile and insulting. Please recalibrate you attitude meter if you want to continue to post here.
#3058 Re: Devuan » Stretch is coming, Devuan status backported or up to date packages » 2017-07-24 22:28:05
golinux wrote:Relax and enjoy the stability that 'just works'.
You know, it's funny, because probably nobody that ever posts on this forum will ever do that . . .
Well, I do! I like stable and boring and only try new things when absolutely necessary. 
#3059 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2017-07-24 22:24:53
I guess you can tell people through your wiki that with Devuan, you can make it your own.
Yes. That's a good part of what derivatives are all about. Make it your own and pass it on. Many candles lit from one flame . . .
#3060 Re: Documentation » Devuan Documentation (structural draft) » 2017-07-24 22:01:17
golinux you not understand.. i'm not asking for missing pieces.. i said that i not linked my content to main pages due are in draf and "WIP"
i ask why are stopped and now u answered.. in reestructuration.. but that nothing to do with the work i was doing.. but whatever..
Some of your work may be be salvageable when we can find time to sort it out. But the effort required may exceed the usefulness of the material. Currently it is too rough and unpolished to be on the wiki proper for reasons stated elsewhere.
#3061 Re: Documentation » Devuan Documentation (structural draft) » 2017-07-24 21:08:33
umm if you said do not see deeply, so then do you noted tht are draft and preliminary materials not linked to main page? i also can see much material not well prepared ...
wel in nay case.. well done documentation are very disperse and not consisten
The wiki is in the process of being very thoughtfully restructured. Right now it is mostly in outline format with current content moved to more suitable locations. Eventually all the missing pieces will appear.
#3062 Re: Documentation » Devuan Documentation (structural draft) » 2017-07-24 19:14:04
you cited degradation in the material.. where?
I did not see or deal with any of that as I only recently started to pay much attention to the wiki. It was handled by the wiki admin. But I have seen some of it in the in the versioning and I am still seeing your 'corrections' of "major" to "mayor" here and there. "Mayor" in English is the title of an elected official who runs a local town/city government.
#3063 Re: Documentation » Devuan Documentation (structural draft) » 2017-07-24 17:03:41
You will find your contributions to the wiki here.
They may or may not be relocated elsewhere. The technical information would have to be vetted for accuracy. And language use is often incomprehensible with many spelling and grammatical errors (as is illustrated by your post above). Without knowing what you are trying to say, it is impossible to edit to clarify. Your offerings are also peppered with judgmental assessments that have no place in documentation and would need to be removed (as in this post). To do all of that is a monumental task so will take some time to sort out. To make matters worse you were editing previous contributions in a negative way by introducing more language errors and 'opinions' which were degrading the wiki content.
For now please keep posting to your website to make that information available.
#3064 Re: Devuan » ZFSonLinux binaries like Ubuntu?? » 2017-07-24 15:47:59
Contrib and non-free options are available in Devuan but not enabled by default. Have you checked to see if ZFS is there?
You might post your question to the dng mail list or on the #devuan-dev irc channel. The devs don't have time to come to the forum often.
#3065 Re: Devuan » Stretch is coming, Devuan status backported or up to date packages » 2017-07-24 15:43:00
Devuan Jessie will mirror Debian "oldstable" until its EOL several years from now. Relax and enjoy the stability that 'just works'.
Before Jessie is EOL, ASCII will be released. There is no ETA for when that will be.
#3066 Re: Devuan » ZFSonLinux binaries like Ubuntu?? » 2017-07-24 15:29:51
You might want to look at some of the chatter in the #devuan irc logs. There is also one old thread on the mail list. If/when the binaries are available in Debian they will come to Devuan. Or perhaps someone will adapt them natively. Currently, there are other more pressing issues that we're dealing with so not a priority.
#3067 Re: Devuan » Stretch is coming, Devuan status backported or up to date packages » 2017-07-24 15:03:33
oldstable (Jessie) is not "deprecated". It is a viable LTS release.
If you want the latest, upgrade to ASCII and deal with the breakage.
I have no idea what a 'craker' is. You might try to offer solutions rather than just complain and denigrate our efforts here.
#3068 Re: Devuan » Stretch is coming, Devuan status backported or up to date packages » 2017-07-24 14:48:28
For sure ASCII will be released before Debian Stretch moves to old stable. [/endsarcasm]
Anyone who is dissatisfied here can always move elsewhere . . .
#3069 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2017-07-22 01:37:16
Yawn . . . and zzzzz
#3070 Re: Other Issues » How to mirror ascii? » 2017-07-21 23:50:31
I also don't see ascii dirs/files anywhere so not sure where they are either.
#3071 Re: Devuan » Deviam Streach » 2017-07-21 03:04:40
Are there any predictions of when Devuan Stretch will be released?
Translated automatically.
There will never be a Devuan Stretch!
Debian Stretch = Devuan ASCII - planet nr.3568 - and is now in Devuan 'testing'. There is no date for the 'stable' release but there will be some testing isos released hopefully soon. It is also possible to upgrade to ASCII from Jessie but read carefully about possible issues before you do that.
#3072 Re: Other Issues » How to mirror ascii? » 2017-07-21 01:16:29
From a link on the download page: https://files.devuan.org/MIRRORS.txt
#3074 Re: Installation » Errors in web page: devuan.org/os/development-kit » 2017-07-20 02:51:22
@golinux you said in #2
https://devuan.org/os/development-kit is an obsolete page. How did you find it?
- that is true but still available by direct url
it also happens to match this https://devuan.org/os/development which is reached by clicking on the "Development" tab at the top of the webpage.
Early in 2016 there was an https://devuan.org/os/development-kit page. That page was well indexed in search engines. But by the time of the Stable release it was obsolete and rather than delete the page, it is now redirected to https://devuan.org/os/development. Then the development-kit was renamed to distro-kit and a new page with the currect information was written.
then you say:
Please go to https://devuan.org/os/distro-kit for the most recent information. There you'll find this link to the current sdk info:
which is true ---BUT that link is not available on the
/devuan.org/ main page or the //devuan.org/os page
Why should there be a link on the index page which focuses on how to get and install Devuan? It has no place there. Same holds true for the os page which talks about how an os works.
There is a link on the https://devuan.org/os/development page - - - reached by the 'Development' tab at the top so the url is a little confusing - you don't find it in the contents of the 'os' page
Not trying to make excuses but . . . even though I worked on the styling of the site, I had little to do with setting up the site structure. I inherited what was in place when I took over the site early this year, It is a well-established site so it would be unwise to restructure it at this point. So we're trying to work around it but at the same time simplify the site structure and remove redundancies.
semantics ?? I don't know - I would have thought that each tab at the top would have its own folder /os /development /community
I don't disagree with that and would have done it differently if I had been in charge when it was locked into place.
#3075 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can I use Debian multimedia? » 2017-07-19 01:38:35
@zenkaon . . . free free to edit your post to add the code tags. There is a line of formatting options above the input box that will do Just that with one mouse click.
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