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When I install a service, does it get enabled by default?
Hi All,
I just got devuan running on my main workstation (laptop):
OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur) x86_64
Host: TUXEDO Stellaris AMD Gen5 (Standard)
Kernel: Linux 6.12.94+deb13-amd64
Uptime: 13 hours, 43 mins
Packages: 4261 (dpkg), 18 (flatpak)
Shell: bash 5.2.37
Display (DELL U2713HM): 2560x1440 @ 60 Hz in 27" [External]
DE: Cinnamon 6.4.10
WM: Muffin (X11)
WM Theme: cinnamon (Default)
Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3/4]
Icons: Deepsea [GTK2/3/4]
Font: Sans (9pt) [GTK2/3/4]
Cursor: Adwaita (24px)
Terminal: GNOME Terminal 3.56.2
Terminal Font: Monospace (13pt)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS (16) @ 5.14 GHz
GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Max-Q / Mobile [Discrete]
GPU 2: AMD Radeon 780M [Integrated]
Memory: 77.87 GiB / 92.12 GiB (85%)
Swap: 0 B / 93.79 GiB (0%)
Disk (/): 78.38 GiB / 1.70 TiB (5%) - ext4
Disk (/prime): 18.95 GiB / 1.05 TiB (2%) - zfs
Local IP (eth0): 192.168.1.74/24
Battery (standard): 100% [AC Connected]
Locale: en_US.UTF-8I'd been trying every 3 months or so, but I couldn't get it to do external monitors gracefully, which was a deal killer for me. I finally managed (thanks ChatGPT) to get it working. So, it's my daily driver now. I'm struggling a bit with sysvinit, but I'm glad to be off the systemd dependency. I heart Mint, but I don't care for the Ubuntu / Systemd cruft.
I figured out that my most common systemd things are enabling, disabling, starting, stopping and restarting services. Is there more to this than:
update-rc.d autofs defaults
service autofs start
service autofs restarttype stuff? I did my gazillion package installs and configurations and didn't hit any blockers, but I could have sworn that the last time I tried this i hit the wall on some software that wouldn't work without systemd, is that still the case?
Thanks!
Hi All,
I got my nvidia working with external monitor. It was weird, apparently you need to set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add nvidia-drm.modeset=1
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nvidia-drm.modeset=1"
and
grub-update
It had a persistenced issue every reboot too, the fix:
/etc/init.d/nvidia-persistenced stop || true
pkill -xf nvidia-persistenced || true
dpkg --configure -a
apt -f install
Then to see what's what:
dpkg -l | grep nvidia-persistenced
nvidia-smi | grep Persistence-M
It should be enabled and will now save the configuration.
I'm not sure if this is an nvidia driver issue on Devuan or just something funky with the Stellaris - it has an AMD 7840HS with AMD 780 and RTX 4070 and I'm plugging the monitor in via mini-display port. Either way, I'm posting it for whoever might need it in the future, including me
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I just installed devuan excaliber 6.1.0 using devuan_excalibur_6.1.0_amd64_desktop.iso. The install went perfectly, I chose Cinnamon, installed zfs, etc. Most icons in the menus are good and the apps are installed, but in games, there are several handfuls of icons (generic looking) that don't have games installed - Air Traffic Controller, Backgammon, Battlestar, BCD, etc. I did apt install games-all, but that didn't get that many more installed... Any idea where the icons come from and if there's a package I need to install on top of this?
Nice, thx @golinux, @fsmithred. This is helpful. I particularly like the return to old debian. Yes, when devuan forked, I was ambivalent. I wasn't that concerned, did systemd break things, not for a user who was only getting used to linux as daily driver, after all this time though, systemd's gone nuts, init just isn't that hard, which I guess they agreed with, cuz then they started getting their fingers into everything. The most recent ones that I noticed were logging (really?) and now birthdays? wow, talk about mixing concerns. Anyhow, I appreciate the banned packages list. Nothing concerning there. I'll be trying my new environment out with an eye toward a stronger move if it works out.
Hi,
I just installed Devuan on my t430. Used the desktop iso and it was pretty reminiscent of a pure Debian install. I chose Cinnamon cuz I’m normally on Mint. I also tried the xfce install, and that worked fine. Cinnamon looked better.
What I’m wondering is, is this just Debian with Systemd removed? Meaning, are the package sets pretty much the same or are there lots of missing stuff? The systemd trick is my primary motivation- I detest bleeding concerns and systemd bleeds everywhere. Are there issues I’m likely to run into as a pure Debian user migrating over? I expect the Ubuntu dependencies of Mint to bite, but figure the Debian bits to just work?
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