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#1 Re: Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-19 20:01:48

Thanks @fsmithred.

Not a big issue but OS prober seems broken as it place a bunch of duplicate entries on the created grub.cfg.

I will see the old thread about vuu-do to guess where is the fat you are talking about.

Many thansk for the reply and regards

Carlo D.

#2 Re: Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-19 12:05:51

Hello, @greenjeans.

Many thanks for the info, it will be interesting to have some insight, about the process to make a similar but updated installation.

I have not found many things around about the new way of managing the logind, seatd or elogind or what and other details, like why the minimal install shen told to install grub2 will not install grub-mkconfig.

As said in the first post this "minimal partiton" is the one I use to manage the grub.cfg.

I know that I could wirte it "by hand" without using the /etc/grub.d infrastructure.

Did anyone know where to find these "detailed" information, for Devuan Daedalus?

Kind regards

Carlo D.

#3 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Emacs 29.4 on devuan daedalus » 2024-11-17 12:41:01

I will mark this as SOLVED as tests have revealed that Emacs 29.4 is working flawlessy with Devuan.

Some minor problems, but as my installation is an heavy modified install, with "literate config" based on an org file, some minor problems are not blocking, they are more a stimulus to learn more about Emacs.

Only to say something, it uses:

- eglot and pylsp
- treesitter for python grammar
- plantUML for diagrams
- Latex using a TExlive plain install in /opt/texlive
- and some other highly customize things

So the complexity is high enough.

Kind regards
Carlo D.

#4 Re: Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-16 19:23:54

Some updates, after some fiddling around probably I have solved a little, not perfect but working.

- seatd is installed, but probably the error is not relevant
- xorg server is started and the terminal is brought up, the two problems was:
1) no font installed- resolved to install the 100dpi xorg font
2) some problems in permission as a normal user permissions to access mouse and keyboard was not set properly I have to add the user to the input group

Adding LIBSEATD_BACKEND (or something similar as I'm using my broken memory) was not a solution

exiting X with ALTGR -Stamp + k wil lnot work, or to explain better, the X server is shut off but the control is not returned to the console.

Not a big problem however as the installation is a minimal install to have the ability to have two teminal opens:

- one to fire up an editor maybe with su to edit grub configuration files
- one to fire up maybe a less session to read notes added to the /home directory (that is separate from the others on disk) placed here mounting explicitly the "boot management" partition and adding files to "/home/boot-user"

To clean things:

- apt clean

has done most of the job needed to having a more functional thing, with 2GB partition probably I could not ask more than that.

I will not mark it SOLVED for now, as maybe someone will have more detailed advices.

Kind regards

Carlo D.

#5 Re: Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-16 12:39:37

Running devuan/debian using a 2 GB parftiion can be quite masochistic these days.

The point is that is is a simple service install only to have grub decoupled from any other Linux distribution or OS I have installed on the hard disk.

I have usually many OS on my computer:
- a working distribution, where I do most of my work
- a play distribution, where I experiment things
- another test distribution, maybe
- A windows install

So I've resolved to use the "small debian" to manage the grub.
But i have to edit files by hand, so having a graphical install will permit to do it in a more easy way.

Kind regards

Carlo D.

#6 Re: Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-15 17:03:44

Thanks, I will try this and let you know if this resolve things.

About the way to clean the installation from unnnecessary file to free space, do you have any hints?

TIA and thanks again.

Kind regards
Carlo D.

#7 Re: Documentation » Printer and Scanner from Brother - Get them to work under Devuan 5 » 2024-11-15 13:35:10

Yes Andre4freedom you are right.

I'm just returning in devuan after some years of using ArtixLinux (maily for "bleeding edge" development reason), so I'm in the process of setting everything, scanner and printng has revelaed to work "out of the box"

But my past experience is that "out of the box" scanner experience if inferior in capabilities to the brother supplied drivers, at least on my MFC-L2710DW.

Kind regards

Carlo D.

#8 Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-15 13:15:05

onekk68
Replies: 13

Hello, to all.

In the process of get rid of some distribution on my computer, I've installed Devuan daedalus on the computer.

Now I have among other two partitions, one minimal of about 2GB whit a minimal install of devuan used only to boot other operating system (Windows 10 and the various flavour of Linux I need to test things).

my big whish is to have a minimal Xorg install to be able to run an editor on the X to edit things like the Grub configuration.

But I have installed these packages:

xserver-xorg-core, xinit, xorg-driver-vesa, twm and xterm

package names could be probably wrong, but as I' writing from the other devuan installation I can't see the exact names.

I have a problem as root and user to startx with a minimal xinitrc that will start xterm and twm, it fails with ane error related to seatd_libseatd error -9

I have filled 93% of the partition so eve some hints on what to purge will be appreciated.

Any hints will be appreciated.

Kind regards

Carlo D.

#9 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Emacs 29.4 on devuan daedalus » 2024-11-06 17:02:14

Many thanks for the quick answer.

The settings about repositories should already been here, (a part for the main on the right side)

# daedalus-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-backports non-free-firmware non-free contrib main   
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

what is lackig probably is the:

-t daedalus-backports

in the install part, and the use of apt.

So many thanks again.

I was "returning" to Devuan after some time on being on "Artix Linux" so probably my preferences could be biased.

I know that in Debian/Devuan the concept of "stable" has been always "peculiar" as it depends on different considerations from those adopted "upstream", like the ability for a package to build on all the different "platform", so I consider emacs 29.4 as "tested enough" as the development version is 30.x now and 29.4 is the stable version of emacs from some time.

more to come if problems will arise, or simply to make the post Solved, asa I can continue my migration effort.

Kind regards

Carlo D.

#10 Installation » [SOLVED] Emacs 29.4 on devuan daedalus » 2024-11-06 12:52:50

onekk68
Replies: 3

Hello, I want to install emacs 29.4 on devuan daedalus, Synaptics package manager will tell that there is broken dependencies.

I want to install emacs-gtk as I have to use X11 and seems that emacs-pgtk is specifically for Wayland.

Any help will be useful.

I have installed devuan using the netinstall iso and I boot it using grub2 from another distribution, but probably this is not relevant.

here my sources.list

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

# daedalus-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-updates non-free-firmware non-free contrib main  

# daedalus-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-backports non-free-firmware non-free contrib main   
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.

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