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#1 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2024-01-26 10:13:53

lucbertz

In fact it is similar to the standard Devuan procedure described here:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus
But you added informations on the glitches I may encounter.
Thank you for the really comprehensive and detailed how-to.

#2 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2024-01-24 17:31:08

lucbertz

So the answer is "try and see"?
Can you share me the steps to do the upgrade of Miyo from Chimaera to Daedalus, if not so tedious?
Anyway I will do a Clonezilla backup and, in case of poor performance, a restore.

#3 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2024-01-24 08:14:12

lucbertz

Thank you for the information.
I will keep Chimaera, because I can't afford to double the RAM usage.
Sometime I guess why software continue to grow in size and resource usage, while apparently functionalities are quite the same.

#4 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2024-01-23 14:09:32

lucbertz

Hi!

Two years ago I installed MiyoLinux Openbox i686 2022-01-29 on an obsolete HP Mini 2133; it still runs smoothly.
Could someone tell me if it is possible to update MiyoLinux from Chimaera base to Daedalus with low effort, please?
Otherwise I shall reinstall another Devuan Daedalus Openbox derivative. Any hint?

Thank you.

#5 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » No sound from speakers - VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA » 2023-01-11 07:43:25

lucbertz

Unfortunately it did not work.
I recap the behaviour:
- shut down and power on the laptop > sound from speaker is missing;
- suspend and resume the laptop > sound from speaker is working;
- restart the laptop after a suspend > sound from speaker is working;
- restart the laptop after a shutdown > sound from speaker is missing.
So, the rule is do a suspend and then... never shutdown it! big_smile

I would check suspend, resume, restart and shutdown logs (do you know log files names?) and running configuration status of audio and power configuration (do you know any commands with detailed output?).
Thank you.

#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » No sound from speakers - VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA » 2023-01-10 10:54:47

lucbertz
MiyoLinux wrote:

Is the issue with "no sound" coming from trying to hear things in your web browser (SeaMonkey)? I haven't use SeaMonkey in many years. So, I'm not familiar with it these days.

If I recall correctly, Seamonkey uses the same rendering engine as Firefox.

What I can tell is...if you're using alsa-only in Firefox, the package apulse is needed to have sound...but I don't understand why you would have sound in your headphones but not the speakers.

Thank you MiyoLinux. I found your derivative distribution very interesting; it should become an official alternative release of Devuan, in my opinion.

The issue is general; I can't hear anything, neither using VLC, MPlayer, qmmp and any other software.

Regarding SeaMonkey, I installed it from the packages provided by the official web page. Unfortunately it has a very slow development; it is still based on Firefox-ESR 78 and many web sites considers it as obsolete; sometimes they deny access. I still use it because it integrates mail client and it is still lightweight, but I have to use also alternative browsers. I consider Firefox and Chromium quite heavy, also on modern hardware. Many alternative projects are updated seldom or do not offer a 32 bit release. Now I use Falkon and I'm trying also Epiphany, available in Devuan 32 bit repositories.

Camtaf wrote:

Check F6 in alsamixer, it may be trying to use the wrong output....

Also, if using pulseaudio, again, check that it is using the right output....

(Default output is HDMI if I remember.)

Hi Camtaf. I tried many configurations in alsamixer, with no success. Pulseaudio is not installed. I tried also to change output in VLC preferences to every available option, with no success. It seems the speaker output is configured as disabled at hardware level, in a physical way, like happens with the WiFi switch button.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
lucbertz wrote:

The one on antiX seems the more complete, but it is for 17.1 version and I don't know to apply this on Devuan

Create a file at /etc/modprobe.d/fix-my-sound.conf with this content:

options snd-hda-intel model=laptop position_fix=3 power_save=0 power_save_controller=N

Then rebuild the initramfs:

# update-initramfs -u -k all

And reboot.

Hi Head_on_a_Stick. Thank you for the precise suggestion; so, is this essentially a configuration of snd-hda-intel to be applied at boot in initramfs?
I will try it tonight.

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » No sound from speakers - VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA » 2023-01-09 12:29:19

lucbertz

Following a hint on Ubuntu server, after suspend sound in the speakers is reproduced.
Where can I find the commands performed by suspend (launched by obsession-logout) and the subsequent wake up of the system?
I would like to isolate the command that restores audio.

#8 Hardware & System Configuration » No sound from speakers - VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA » 2023-01-05 17:06:59

lucbertz
Replies: 11

Hi.
I'm glad to have found Devuan, a distribution still user friendly with old hardware.
Devuan works smoothly on my old HP Mini 2133, boots in one minute and I can also surf the web by mean of SeaMonkey.
Everything works as expected, with the exception of an audio issue I describe:
- no sound can be heard from the speaker with Devuan, ExeGNU, MIYO, antiX, MX, SLAX, Porteus, ... ;
- sound can be heard from the speaker with Windows (from XP to 8.1) and Ubuntu (only 11.10 and 12.04) always and with Slackware 15.0 until a reboot;
- headphones works correctly with every OS I tried;
- mixer software show moving bars if speaker output is selected.

There are many topics on other distributions' forums which reports the same issue with VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA, all unresolved.
The one on antiX seems the more complete, but it is for 17.1 version and I don't know to apply this on Devuan:

Configure audio card VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA driver: snd_hda_intel
sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq ; : ; }
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; }
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-emu10k1-synth ; : ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }
# Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2
# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
options snd-usb-ua101 index=-2
options snd-usb-us122l index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
options snd-pcs index=-2
options usb-audio index=-2
#VIA VT8237A/VT8251 (power_save if you have no sound from speaker at boot or distortion)
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop position_fix=3 power_save=0 power_save_controller=N 
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel

https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/workaround-on-hp2133/

Is there a list of checks / packages installation / configuration about ALSA, Pulseaudio, OSS ... I can perform to identify the cause of these "muted" speakers?
As extreme solution, is it possible to "port" configuration (and drivers, if needed) from Ubuntu 12.04 to Devuan Chimaera?

Thank you for your suggestions and help.

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