Lazy developers and bug reports are internal distortions?
Maybe I was spending all the spare time I have contributing to other projects, you don't know that.

It's always the same, apologizing when I'm not the one at fault always gets me here, I saw you online for the past 24 hours and knew you were burning, I wanted to say something nice.

I was right about you, I should have left you speechless.

My apology is meant for golinux NOT YOU.
As for you, quit being a hypocrite.

@golinux I replied to you at the developers mailing list

I'm done here. If the developers wanna investigate let 'em investigate, if they wanna dismiss it let 'em dismiss it.
You sending them the link to this thread/topic is intentionally not helpful.

To user steve_v:

The only result I'm getting for FDN is "First Trust Dow Jones Internet Index Fund" and other finance related results

Is taking the first letter of each word is enough to create an abbreviation?

TDP = The Devuan Project
DBTS = Devuan Bug Tracking System

Abbreviations has to be common otherwise nobody will understand it.

Do you even know which post I'm talking about?

Are you saying I can insult anyone because they have not reached my criteria level of respect yet? Earn it how? When do I know that I've earned enough respect according to you? Do I have to check with you each month? Should we put it to vote and see if I can pass 75% of positive votes?

Like everyone else does how? Can you show me examples? What if respectful people to you are dishonorable to me?

I can act like you and point at your typo which would benefit me especially in this situation, but I won't

Does being young/old has to do with being wrong/right?
It's an insult in the world of modern social-media and that's all I care about, that's why he used it, and he called other names.

Images of text is needed to ask about boot-time errors for example, no warranty to the extent permitted by law is a legal phrase, do you see me asking for a compensation?

Watch your mouth.

I did not soft-kill my wifi, the installer did.

ten terminal games is not sane, an ASCII webcam application that I don't remember it's name is also not sane
most of the launchers in the applications menu does nothing, then it's not well-tested.

The hours I've spent translating free software into my language & advocating free software in my local community exceeds the time you spent in front of a computer screen your whole life. I stay positive when beginners ask their questions, something you can't handle.

Are you saying that Devuan is a poor choice? See? I can play your game.
Lack of research? I'm the first one to post this bug report.

No, you replied to me, back then you didn't have the desire to use anything against me so you replied normal.
I was polite enough that I said "at least the ones that spoke to me" because I wanted to be accurate and not curse people who did nothing.

If they were not intending to use it as a desktop then it must be a server, in which case networking is a must.

My problem can't be solved because I'm in a technologically strapped situation and I don't have the luxury of reinstalling Devuan again, and I don't have the luxury of virtual machines as well.

I haven't installed Ubuntu on my machine or any machine or seen Ubuntu since ages.

Bottom line is, everything you've said is meaningless, you arguments don't add-up, you flipped all the facts just because you hate to see me talking to any developer in a bad way, you are using words and terms taken from me that I've wrote in Debian forums, with the exception that I wasn't trying to gaslight anything when I said them, the opposite, I was trying to be accurate, I was trying to document information to help anyone who comes by my posts in the future.

I can reply in detail to everything you've said, but I doubt anybody will read such a long msg.

Understand that by spending two days testing with Devuan I wasted bandwidth quota and time, I procrastinated some things and had to spend time without a functional system which caused harm to me and my work in many ways, I expected the transition from Debian to another Debian-based distro to be much smoother, I also spent some money on this experiment.

Thanks to people who provided solutions AFTER OR BEFORE this incident, and thanks to the one person who asked me to relax and avoid non-friendly tone.

https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=149820
(Proves which one of us has history of being disrespectful)

1- rf-kill was present at the time of installation on the cd/usb and the installer used it to soft-kill my networking before finalizing, WHY? This only happens if I use wifi at installation time.

2- Devuan boots into a system literally in an unusable state, Networking is blocked and the program that can unblock it is not there!
Devuan is published to the public as "stable" without even the minimal amount of testing. This should have been noticed immediately but apparently it's makers do not even use it.

3- The applications menu is filled with command-line tools and games that won't launch, they're expecting xfce terminal which wasn't there because I prefer LXQt (qterminal) god forbidden.

4- When I was registering my account on this forum the validation question was "What is the default desktop in Devuan? (xfce)". Why provide tasksel if you're into xfce that much? Forcing one desktop environment to the extent of putting it as a registration question is called being an asshole.

5- They removed the four free-software principles from the home page and instead started distributing isos with non-free firmware packaged inside.

6- Two days wasted. you're harming your own cause, you're making it look as if removing systemd causes a ton of trouble which is not true the devs just suck at configuring the system.

7- I remember I saw somewhere on the dyne.org website how much they were happy that Stallman was gone from the FSF and that his absence will eradicate machismo and allow decentralized decision making, then who made the decision of considering xfce the official desktop? Was it put to vote? I doubt it

8- Who pushed it so far to the extent of putting it as a registration question? (either users admit that xfce is our official desktop or they're not allowed inside)

Like the fucking thing wasn't even tested, who does that? and who calls that stable?

I'm so tired I can't even rant properly.

No more Devuan for me

To developers: fix your garbage before releasing it into the cyber-space. providing non-free firmware for wifi INSIDE THE CD doesn't really help when you block networking.

PS: devuan pkginfo website works the same way devuan itself works (broken and useless)