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$ sudo apt-get purge gnome-keyring
$ dpkg -l | grep keyring
ii debian-archive-keyring 2025.1 all OpenPGP archive certificates of the Debian archive
ii devuan-keyring 2025.08.09 all OpenPGP certificates used by the Devuan repository
ii gnome-keyring-pkcs11:amd64 48.0-1 amd64 GNOME keyring module for the PKCS#11 module loading library
ii libpam-gnome-keyring:amd64 48.0-1 amd64 PAM module to unlock the GNOME keyring upon login
ii python3-keyring 25.6.0-2 all store and access your passwords safelyI'm not sure it's related to my issue. For example google-chrome presents the same message and gajim (if purged (and its .config dir)) and then if i started again after i try to enter my account for a server the same message will appear. If i hit cancel the dialogue dissapear but my xmpp acoount wont still login.
If i choose yes i get a dialogue window:
Title : KDE wallet service :
/usr/bin/gajim requested the creation of a kdewallet ....
If i manage to login (without enabling kde waller -- yes that happened!) the next time i start gajim i get near my xfce notifacation area the message 'password not found authentication failed' and although i can see my contacts i am offline and trying to get online i get the same notification message.
Also shouldnt $sudo apt-get purge gajim delete the config files too. I purged it. I reninstalled it and my contacts were there.
Indeed:
~/.config/gajim$ ls
pluginsconfig settings.sqlite themeps: it not my writing that is messed up.. :-)
I wonder if a PPA is one implemanation of my general idea.
So :
a simple curated list of Devuan package names
a PPA
debian blends
installer current workflow suggestion. Desktop/WM
virtual packages
I think my proposal is close to an extension of the virtual package idea. It seems more easily to implement. And it wont break a Devuan installation.
Theoretically you could have a cool webpage where you can create - share - edit - use a pico-distro (curated wf) and the site would validate it and add the necessery dependencies. Then download it and run in from apt. You could even bind it to current popular functionality extending it to accomodate popular pico-distros.
Release : Excalibur
DS+WM : Xorg , XFCE
When i start Gajim i see:
Authorization required is Gajim. The login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer.
Password:
The same message i see starting google-chrome
qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -cdrom install-images/devuan_excalibur_6.1.1_amd64_desktop-live.iso
works again only on failsafe option.
Host: Devuan Excalibur
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 devuan-excal-live-storage.qcow2 10G
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -nic user,model=virtio -drive file=devuan-excal-live-storage.qcow2,media=disk,if=virtio -cdrom install-images/devuan_excalibur_6.1.1_amd64_desktop-live.iso
I see the boot menu and i let it boot with its default.
If i choose fail safe it proceeds ok and i login with username : devuan.
Lets see what offline help devuan excalibur live cd offers:
It has on the desktop in prominent place :
* Release notes
* README_desktop-live.txt
* REAME.txt
Except from basic info they basically link to online help.
Devuan and Artix livecd that i tested they resort to plain text file as an entry help system. Interesting.
$ man devuan
No manual entry for devuan
But:
$ man debian-distro-info
$ man distro-info
But no usefull info. Just the generic info use of the distro-info.
From a small search: neither freebsd,artix have a man page for themselfes.
So it seems debian and devuan has think of it but not done it.
And thus in case of offline new installation a user may miss access to so well thought and distilled reference help.
I forgot also info .
My post is about general help system. Not only for sysadms or programmers.
I see usefullness and find inspiration to all help systems.
I think man pages are tied to specific packages. eg: Are there man pages for Devuan installation ,wifi setup ? I think man page is the documentation that each upstream provides for his/her package included in a distro. So i think a distro dont have man pages. In case i am not wrong it'd be good idea a Devuan to has each own man pages and wiki to has options to export to man pages.
man pages is (was) one man(women)'s work . It's missing a use-case context awereness. (most dead artifacts have that i guess). That's why there are all the other help systems.
I added at the help system's list documentation and man pages. Even if generally it was mentioned below :
---- help systems / not time critical (dead responses) ----
dead help / docs
By dead response i mean documentation. (its dead..and could be written from dead people also)).
An effort to explore help system semantics.
I try differentiate what a helping's system main functionality is and how a user or a project's member uses it. So an irc channel has memoserv but i dont think is a goodidea in irc to tell user to memoserv their issues. Also a wiki can create docs but a user wont use a wiki's main functionality(co-editing). Also using a forum to have a chit chat while being both 'online' again is not a forum's main functionality.
----online help systems list----
documentation (info , man pages, manual, tutorial etc)
email lists (async,threaded discussion,delete?,bot protection?)
instant messaging
irc (sync,discussions,delete?,linear,short message granularity)
blogs (async,personal)
forum (async,discussions,delete,manyusers,archive)
wiki (async,manyusers,delete,sharing,text co-editing)
phone (sync,coice,video)
offline (sync,multidimensional)/conferences etc
traits: spam protection, llm-bot crawlers protection , human-comp time-resources requirements (lightweight - heavy axis) , robustness (easy to repair,reproduce) , points of control (centralized - decentralized ), organization options , data formats supported, user-time ,constraints, markup language used (should email,forum,wiki support the same markup? i think yes), acl (access control lists).
We must recongize types of telecomm functionality and later see how comm-system match them.
---- help systems / time-critical (minute response)----
'''A user wants help now''' --> phone,irc,im .
The system must establish sync comm channels between parties. Semantics are like in a conversation. If a party dont hear a reply then it may leave. Which is exactly what you would do on the phone!. I think telling a user in irc,im to wait breaks the semantics and moves them toward other types. What's the difference telling her/him to leave a message (memoserv) and thus send an email .)
Also the user time-critical requirement create schedulling requirement in an organization. '''Having an irc channel doesnt mean that a project offers near-instant help.''' That's the easiest part. A project must find 1) members willing to stay alert for certain hours 2) members highly experienced and fast ! Highly experience because you dont have time to ask more help from others . So maybe you need many members specialized. 3) A subtle way to balance giving time-critical help to llm-bot spoiled users, avoid losing them for ever, and not overburden resources.
---- help systems / not time critical (daily-weekly response)----
'''A user wants not time critical help''' --> email lists , forums, docs .
A user has more time to prepare her/his issue preparation and the helper more time to answer.I think a forum offers better organization-management options and accessibiliy of the posted issues but at the cost of being more centralized.
An email-list i think is most robust (to malfunctions), more decentralized (since each user has copies in his email )more easy to maintain , claims less comp-resources on a project's infrastructure and probably more resistant to aggressive crawlers. Since it's less sexy it could be usefull for more aged and experienced users and as a backup help async system. That traits should not be overlooked for libre software projects.
---- help systems / not time critical (dead responses) ----
dead help / docs
By dead response i mean documentation. (its dead..and could be written from dead people also)).
Documentation is a catalogue-archive of past common help cases. Documentation could be seen as a long term memory of a project. Artifact that can be delivered in hard copies (the ultimate safe).
dead help / wikis
I argue that a wiki is the main tool what will build the Documentation. A good documentation should be co-edited. A wiki is not for helping user. The documentation produced would help user. BUT!! there are wikis that offer help all over the internet. But a user using eg: the debian wiki wont coedit it!! But a wiki's main functionality is co-editing! So when we say go to visit debian's wiki i think we mean go see the docs produces by a wiki.
Wiki's food is archived discussions from forum,emaillist,irc logs. But a good wiki is not a search engine on archived talks. A wiki's dead artifacts should excel at pinpointing common cases and offer good descriptions for issues already solved in a level undestandble by various type of users . Good docs could draw attention from other help systems. That requirement means frequent testing and crossvalidation .
refs:
Lately i tried Debian's 13 installer . And it offered me a choice of one of six @blends.
I dont say that to imitate. But it seems to me a logical step in what a distribution can offer. As i argued before in a certain way it does that already.
ps:
See in wiki.devuan.org / chomwitt my Explorations @ category.
Lately i created a wikispace (as it called in PmWiki) . A collections of wikipages under my name.
Also i put many wikipages of mine under some categories. (these may be global .. meaning if i am correct that another user could place
a wikipage of her/his wikispace under the same category.
xmm.. redhater veteran calls containers bullshit. Maybe now it's not affordable to run containers because ram is getting hoarded by the big guys and it seems better idea to deploy software that uses a distribution's libraries and shared resources ?
Because yes if a programming project do that you could ship the same program in a portion of memory needs. Now maybe not a floppy but still much better than now.
So no it's not bullshit for every application to ship with each own operating system!! as long as you have the luxury to have cheap unlimited memory . I would personaly have no problem my guest to bring their own refrigarator and bed if i had big house..
Anyway as i have argued in another post one merit of a good distribution can be lowering the pressure on ram, or allowing more apps than running apps in container like formats. But that would put pressure on upstream programmers to lower their push for eternal shiny updates to grab eyeballs.
I've changed the wiki page (last link in my initial post) . Now the correct is @ DevuanWiki / Devuan Distribution and Releases.
Strangely i cannot edit my initial post. I dont know why it's locked. I dont plan to delete it. I mean i have a fear of aggresive crawlers but i dont plan to delete it.
I am happy to hear about XLibre and Phoenix.
I also have some ideas for a new display server. The main diff is moving away from pixels and away from windows. A visual-haptic-audio representation of a process's output should be 'porous'
I'll call it GipesCompProcessPorousCovers (GsCPPC). . Cover since its the superficial aspect of a process. GsCPPC could easily adapt it's data ui representations for accesibility. . GsCPPP will have pixel's as a visual representation choice but not as priority. Can a pixel transform easily into accessibilty compatible types? Dont think so.
As for security i will rephrase it into different semantics of isolation of something happening .Like dont wont to be distrurbed but lets not keep sharing out. An importand core semantics swift.
So if you want to become more adventurous and have time to kill please take a look on my thoughts and let's see how a display server could evolve towards some novel ideas.
->How X started.
->Copy paste... a hard problem ?
-> Should a display server contain a drawing API ?
->What is X ? // As you'll read X is what 'you' want it to be. The needs change. For 80s MIT's Athena project X meant distributed computing and collaboration . Today for gaming industry X or Wayland means impressive addictive graphics to make money. (not necessarily interesting games) . (like Angèle is implying in her song What You Want -- X is what YOU want... :-) )
->To X or not to X ?
-> The need for cooperation as central motivation in Unix and GNUproject
well.. it's scary. to look back into history and see that X is .. not what programmer want but what the programmers were told to do in a certain society's context. For example there is ample evidence that Xfree86 (X port to x86) was driven from gaming gpu money.
Thats the small history lesson. If in a society the top priority was seamless (as far as possible) integration of people with disabilities and improving distributed computing then you would end in an entirely different display server and an top of that you should think hard about the transformative - adaptivity - sharingefficiency of your interface-'cover' primitives and that would land you in a strange lands of ... semiokinetics,ethics and math.
Unfortunately (for some) in the driving seat of X's evolution is fancy consumer desktop and gaming industry money (it's not incidental that in the hands of the current maintainer's of X it stagnated and died ) .Have anyone tested accessibility installation of Windows or Linux lately ? Well , in the attention harvesting economy you want to grab the client from his/her eyeballs!!.. Well who would have thought that to be blind in our era would be the best bullshit firewall for a human brain.
I wonder it the upcoming pc market - pc gaming decline that started ,due to the ultrahyped AI related comp resource hoarding ,@ will shift the money dynamics. .
@Idle i am happy if you find it usefull. I hope to act as a usefull seed of discussion and become better, I'd like to add your line but i cannot edit it anymore. I dont know why.
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"TL/DR: short 30sec recap: @ LLM NeuralNetwork tech's benefits overshadowed by massive hoarding of computation resources and unethical and aggresive data appropriation that spreads disincentives to the creative soul of the internet and kill the pc market. All pathalogical aspects accelerating due to big state support. Although LLM represents a small fraction of AI research it's ultra-hyped-posing as AI to further accelerate funding and support through FOMO and psyops. The large scale of resources needed to sustain its usefullness highlight how inefficient it is.
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How to get a good education for your Digital LLM driven Neural Network for Free?
Welcome to The magnificent Era of the Ultra-hype engines and the comp-resource hoarders and data stealers ...
In a dead poet society Sam wants to become a member. Sam comes to meeting fully equiped with recording tech to secretly train his LLM-NN to produce the best poems. Do you keep him into your society? What if ALL members had the same equipement and goal ? But wasnt that the goal from the start? To train your brain to the best poems ? But now a member wants to train ALSO his digital NN ? Is that bad ? Even it he doesnt do it secretly ?
You train your cyberpet (with LLMNN module) when you take walk with it at places with crowds . (as you would do with your kid) . Is that bad ? Illegal ? You train a swarm of cyberpets (all owned by you) again in public spaces . Is that bad ? Illegal ? Again you are in a public sphere ? What significance it has if you train one cyberpet from training a thousand or a million ? Maybe the imbalance of control that YOU can aquire and exert on you enviroment ?
I read increasingly reports-complaints of websites creators and maintainters on the negative consequences (mainly less traffic and mass scraping that create also stability issues) of aggresive AI crawlers and search engines moving away from the links list mode to an AI-centric UI. (and of course the most important -a wave of layoffs in various tech related sectors).
What signifies as aggresive behavior on cyberspace ? Can a crawler misbehave ? Is there justice on the cybersphere or a way to fight power imbalances ?
One natural question : So hasnt that happen before? New tech creating new jobs , replacing old ones? Opposing AI means to be a new version of Luddites ?
Wont AI offers us a new brighter future so lets not allow petty complaints to hold us back ? Shouldnt we play along and make our sites more AI access friendly ? Or maybe become youtube content creators-workers ? Wasnt web build from CERN scientist to interlink-interelate all accessible to internet knowledge .
I will argue in favor of a position that the biggest change that is happening in our lifes in not a new-tech transformation but a significant era of comp-related resources hoarding of the powerfull amidst what seems to be a prelude to a world war. A society transformation to less liberal forms . A 'transfomation' that kills the soul of the truly biggest tech of 2000s , thaf of the internet. A transfomation that opposes creative spirits and upholds control as the highest value.That transfomation (a hoarding accelaration) is possibly because it stands on the shoulders of already pathological wealth and power concentration that had been created in prior time . And surely the current data stealing is facilitated from the eco-hostile smartphones!!! The smartphone era is the prelude to the current era. Massive personal data is comming from the smarfphones. Without smartphones all data centers would die. LLM is a tool to access more easily all the huge data . BUT you need ram to access it and store it and gpu's to process it. And another creek leading to the 'AI' river is the cloud era. OSes like windows, ads trackers , and many programs collect vast data and 'telemetry' that needs to be stored and processed. So we have an explosion of digital data creation.
So i dont buy the ultra-hyped LLM tech as fundamentally AI innovation .
It's a complex LLM that for the moment needs access to vast comp resources as ram and gpus and ofcourse data in order to create a usefull service.
And for me that exposes it's weakness of the digital computing. It's doesnt align well with complexity. It drains resources .
I think a single cell of a bee is computational way more capable and utilizes resources many orders of mangitute more efficiently than al l the LLM data centers. Is that an hallucination of me? wishfull thinking? I think AI hype works better as the world becomes more dump and enumerated. But i think it's not a peer to the biological world that has millions of evolution on it's back . Billionaires surf on a media concetraded world that acts as an ego echo-chamber and hides the wrong doing of their actions. See for example climate instability not to mention playing global war with nuke threats!!
I see pure peaked greed and immoral content appropriation-stealing . Look the perpetrators. Multi billionaires with the ethical flexibility of saluting like nazis to attract media attentions, fantasizing replacing the workforce of their companies with indians, posing happily near trump and near dictators constantly promoting their ideas thought controlled appearances where they parrot in front of friends or employees how great they are... (put them in a room for a real - uncontrolled discussion with a philosopher like Slavoj Žižek and see the tech feudokings's ideological hollowness..). So are these people the AI innovators? The nvidia gpu gaming guy who ripped off for decades family budgets and now poses as a tech lord ? really ?
That is no news ofcourse. Remember github and copilot getting in bed with microsoft? They big corps always are after our data. I think the difference now it that big govs are fully onboard the AI train because i think they believe that it's a matter of state survival and a way to hide many of their ineffeciencies under the new hype tech word.. A gov with the bigger AI survives and wins. Without government money i dont think a company could buy mem - gpu production for the next years or build easily data genters. So there is a AI ultra hype train that is moving fast and attracts on board stateactors , aggresive companies and people who see a window of opportunity to tap on water and energy with more ease. That train hoard comp resources and public data very fast - cancer like fast- and nothing stops it. I believe that a crucial fuel of that train is the big hype engiges (that ofcourse belong to the same persons that drive the AI train.. how convenient and illegal and unethical...) . Those engines with constant hype-flows keep the train going full speed attracting resource hoarders . AI or die!! (i hope you see that most propably those on the AI-hyped train wont die... not because they are more AI-smart but because they will have stole massive water , energy , hoard all memory and gpu under the sun.., and ofcourse have access to gov public money and support.) (any free market funs left ???) (do the free world turns into north korea? or we are in the middle of WW3?)
The state-sponsored hoarding and datacenters expansion that destroyed the pc consumer marked highlights that argument.
Without vast memory and gpu , and energy and water that powers the datacenters LLM is would be a search engine language driven interface.
(speaking of AI_LLM capabilities.. have they learned to count in images yet?).
It's the data that train an LLM and makes a 'AI' agent usefull. If an 'AI' is asked tips about living in Berlig it will ultimately have to had be trained on a good reliable blog. Otherwise it'll recite in perfect english just crap. An LLM agent can write perfect prose but say crap. So the ethical would be ? To buy the data to train your model . Or to allow third party to use LLM to offer an language driven UI on their work. Now we see fast movers tapping unethically to data and sell it AS if their agent is smart !! Isnt this an AI parody salespitch of conman sales(wo)man ?
So for me the solution it to break the AI hype cycle. Expose the crucial element of greed,and data stealing and resource tapping. Expose the superficial hype-building claims of AI (when for example the hard problem of consciousness is out of reach). But that hype is supported by the great hype engines of our time . (facebook,twitter, etc). Breaking the hype ofcourse means engaging in a civilised discourse in public spheres not controlled by the AI-train hoarders. So in the end it boils down for me in a matter of how societies and political systems work. I fear that in our days states tend to align more with a china-concentrated model keeping elections as a thin vale constantly vanishing.
is encryption combatible with public-open spaces?
Should we silently keep offering our source code to the cyberpets of Sam and Elon or China's superstate ?
Should we practice @ abstinence from the digital public sphere while is infensted ?
Should we practice partial abstinence from the digital public sphere while is infensted and increase presence in physical public spheres that build stronger semantic networks that are resistant to automated crawerls ? (physical public spheres can add flavors to languages unknown to crawlers)
Should we try to avoid feeding some cyberpet swarms ?
Are there digital content not digestable from automated crawlers?
A data type-format being less machine-searchable is a non-digestable-crawler data trait.Podcast vs text vs image vs video
Should we protect content behind authentication ?
Can we devise processes as @ sentinel species (like the dogs in the Terminator movies that detected infitrator units?)
Should we inject older tech like phone conversation (like BladeRunner's Voight-Kampff) tests during authentication to our digital realms ?
Should we rethink the internet's architecture in order to allow public sub-spheres-spaces to have a way to protect themselfes from centers of accelerating (out of normal pace - cyberflows homeostatis braken) data appropriation ? Or the internet's architecture is fine and we can find solutions inside it?
Can you create honey pots of garbage and lure a crawler to get that and bypass what is truly significant to a website owners
Combine non-automated - undigestable to ai-bots authentication , data flow rate , data types ? How can you make authentication really bitchy to automated cyber bots .What would piss of a ultra-greedy webcrawler? How would you treat such a kid in your famliy ? Keep less food(data) in the fridge ? Selling more content in physical format ? Or again .. through telephone conversation ?
Should communities engage more in live voice-teleconference conversation using encrypted channels?
Should we communicate with audio files messages ?
Elevate the prestige and access rights associated with a physical presence in a community gathering (layered open community)
Attach valuable data on matter? Reducing its mobility but increasing its control ?
Should we ask @ William Gibson ? Either for advice or apologies for making us believe that cyberspace was our world when in fact we are the aliens in it!!
Embrace community's idiosyncrasies @
Enhance non automated workflows (for example filter account creation through human conversation channels
Enhance communities help availability
Please dont phone me to tell you my prefered solution.
There was an era when Sierra made money from hot-phone lines selling tips how to help LarryLaffer unzip his pants and selling physical copies of hintbooks .
@The New Era of Sensory Augmentation
“We have only the most shallow understanding of basic questions like what physical properties give rise to conscious experience, what makes an experience perceptual, and how we come to feel ownership over a sensory stream.” <--- interesting.. how do you make an information flow that is foreign to automated crawlers ? (or is it US that we stepped into the ai-llm's crawlers digital realm and IT can detect US as aliens? )Can we make info tele-flow more organic ? To feel that we own it ? Make data that is not @ fungible ? How would that help discern foreign-unwanted tapping onto a data stream from a friendly data tap ?
@Regain control of AI crawlers
I found various posts about various issues about AR9271 droping connections.. but in monitor mode. I will try in another devuan pc.
Unfortunately the TechnoN150 exhibits some strange behavior.
The network manager icon in the xfce notification area shows good signal. The ifconfig shows i got ip but some webpages wont load!
Could it be that due to low memory and specs TN150 drops connections with low latency?
@Altoid I didnt questioned if the dongle comes from TE . But whether it would work ok in my system.
Anyway i checked more carefully the enclosure:
It has one the one side a TechnoEthical sticker and on the other side :
N14939 DNUA-93F
FCC ID: NKR-VRWL25
pc: devuan 6
wm : xfce
network manager: (to be filled)
Product name : @Tehnoetic TET-N150 . Which seems basically a simply rebranding of 2010 Taiwan or Chinese @ Sharp VR-WL2 or @ Wistron NeWeb/ DNUA-93F . (The DNUA-93F is on the sticker but the FCC-ID corresponds to Sharp VR-WL25) .. But it seem from thils list @ that various AR9271 based wifidongles report to linux the same Ven:Dev ID. So i wonder if all that name jungling has any meaning...
Related product : @ Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter for GNU / Linux (TPE-N150USB), with a nice manual: @
@ (2014) FSF-certification announcement
I tested : Technoethical's N150 mini wifi@
For many years i have in my home turned towards using wired networking . The reasons being :
1) having in many years tried various adaptors that have problems making the work reliably (even if most of them claimed also linux support).
2) being afraid of the emf pollution .
Anyway i had in my radar for many years technoethical and so i decided to buy and try Techno's N150 that claims a
It works with the free driver ath9k_htc (GNU GPL v2) and the free firmware for ath9k_htc (Clear BSD).
As for the open firmware i found:
@ open-ath9k-htc-firmware.
@ Announcement of the release in the @ ath9k_htc_fw emailing list.
@ A nov/2011 datasheet of AR9271.
From little i've read it seems credit goes mainly to : Adrian Chadd and Luis R. Rodriguez (@ (2008)Atheros hires ath5k developer)
In the Announcement email they thank management of QCA and even Tensilica .
Here @ (a page orf AR9271 specs) it says:
SoC Architecture: RISC - Tensilica core (Xtensa LX2.1.0). So i guess Tensilica is the microprocessor that executes the firmware.
The T'sN150 page claims:
Using the latest versions of the kernel (3.0 or later), the adapter works out of the box when plugging it on USB, and you don't have to manually install the firmware anymore.
Well that doesnt hold in Devuan 6 's 6.12.74 kernel.
Initially plugging in various usb3 ports of my Devuan 6 PC i didnt see any syslog messages (nothing!).
Plugging it in a usb2 port i show a $ lsusb entry :
Bus 003 Device 006: ID 0cf3:9271 Qualcomm Atheros Communications AR9271 802.11n
But after:
# apt-get install firmware-ath9k-htc firmware-atheros
it works ok in either usb3 (blue) and usb2 (black) ports.
Also i dont know why but my adaptor came not with the fancy logo filled small sticker but with a simpler one with made in china and some small stuff that i dont remember.
Also according to @ the product name of my dongle is Wistron NeWeb DNUA-93F and it contains also a usb chipset: Atheros AR9002U . ( The FCC ID on the dongle matches @ Sharp VR-WL25. .
ps:
I am very curious how that happened. I mean what conditions and efforts allowed a company to accept to license openly a product's firmware.
Also i wonder it the firmware contain blobs.
@Lujoomen my setup is console only . setxkbmap is in the x11-xkb-utils.
Anyway.. i gave it a try since x11-xkb-utils doesnt pull all X .. but setxkbmap compaints that it cannot open the display.
1. setxkbmap is part of X so i guess it affects X clients.
2. i created a new user and set gr locale as default but i cant write or see greek system messages.
i tried also :
$ sudo apt-get install console-data
$ sudo loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/gr.kmap.gz
cant open 'linux-with-alt-and-altgr' because kbdfile already opened ../include/linux-with-alt-and-altgr.inc.gz
syntax error unexpected error
Strangely that itsfoss article ends with :
And that’s all! Now you’re able to change your default language as many times you want directly from the terminal.
But how do you do that ?
I want to be able to write other languages (in addition to english).
I tried with no help ;
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
what should i do ?
I wonder if the Devuan installer could mirror our concerns and offer more options during install.
Also when a fork is done , like MATE->CAFE it would help to know the reason and the projects intention. Was it license issues , roadmap differences etc.
I use a personally curated desktop : StumpWM + xfe + emacs + qutebrowser + weechat and xfce in my kid's computer.