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#1 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Removing/purging Network Manager » 2026-03-24 21:54:59

Just an update for whoever cares.

Got rid of Network Manager.  Configured everything in interfaces, interfaces.d, wpa_supplicant.conf, resolv.conf.   wpa_gui provides a simple gui for wpa_supplicant.   No more odd mystery due to NM doing its thing.

NM is a convenient tool for many typical scenarios, but apparently not for me.

Thanks all for chiming in.

#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Removing/purging Network Manager » 2026-03-18 18:09:15

"BTW:  I installed wpa_gui and it reports that it "could not get status from wpa_supplicant."   Are the operations of wpa_gui and network manager mutually exclusive?"

Found out it's because when Network Manager is running, it manages wpa_supplicant and controls it via dbus, whereas wpa_gui expects socket(s) to communicate with wpa_supplicant, usually in the directory  /var/run/wpa_supplicant.

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Removing/purging Network Manager » 2026-03-10 16:31:47

My fault.   I was connecting to wifi asking for dhcp, of course it will assign dns server and gateway (the port's default route).   Changed the connection type to static  ip, and now it don't mess with the resolv.conf.

Thanks all for the info and advices.

BTW:  I installed wpa_gui and it reports that it "could not get status from wpa_supplicant."   Are the operations of wpa_gui and network manager mutually exclusive?

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Removing/purging Network Manager » 2026-03-09 17:47:13

Here is the context:

I have a desktop machine with wired connection to a router.  I am setting up a wifi network with another router not connected to the internet. 

When I use the Network Manager via the status tray icon to connect to the wifi network, it changes resolv.conf to point to the non-internet wifi router, and adds a default route pointing to this router.   So each time I connect to the non-internet wifi, I have to fix resolv.conf and route table manually.

So I am looking for an alternative(s) to Network Manager to manage wifi connection.   Can you all help me out with suggestions/recommendations?

Thanks.

#5 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Removing/purging Network Manager » 2026-03-09 08:45:36

devrate
Replies: 12

What are the inconveniences if I remove/purge Network Manager?

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Disabling firefox auto=update » 2025-08-18 13:56:55

isn't  that equivalent to "lock" (in synaptic package manger)?

#8 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Disabling firefox auto=update » 2025-08-17 18:33:26

devrate
Replies: 7

Apparently they removed the option from the settings menu a while back.   Preferences settings in about:config don't do anything.   So I put a "lock" option on the package via the package manager, and hope that will do the trick.

What is the "correct" way to disable firefox auto-update?

#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ethernet/if configuration change » 2025-03-05 18:45:27

When I wanted to change the setting, looked into files "interfaces" and subdirectory "interfaces.d" in /etc/network, and it was empty, so I was wondering where the configuration settings were stored.    Any way, editing that file and subdirectory seems to do the trick.   Thanks.

BTW, "mismanage" is right. smile  There are apparently multiple little tools that do not know what the others are doing and things (including myself) get confused.

#10 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ethernet/if configuration change » 2025-03-04 21:11:35

devrate
Replies: 2

What is the standard way to change ethernet/if configuration?   I had to resort to manually change it using ifconfig and route commands.  I am running daedalus (5.0) on amd64 hardware.

#11 Re: Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-23 18:30:36

fsmithred:

You must be the life of party, huh.  smile   Good that you pointed that out, though.  Also, plugins at /usr/lib/mozilla would be shared, and maybe there are more shared resources..

pedro:

Thanks for the info link.

#12 Re: Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-21 17:54:01

" withouth the need of deinstalling firefox 60 esr"

Hm...  that's a good to know.  Now I can have both versions installed without conflict because the older version is outside the apt system.

#13 Re: Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-21 17:03:44

fsmithred:

"Find the older package in /var/cache/apt/archives and install it... "

This particular old package was not in the cache archive.  I am guessing that's because I purged it (instead of uninstalling it) and that also removed the package from the cache as well?

Thanks for the info.  Good to know how to roll back to an older package no longer available at repo.

kapqa:

"to install firefox 52.9 i download it from ftp and then just change the shortlinks in "favored applications" to the firefox directory ..."

I basically did the same - downloaded the older version tar package from mozilla archive.  Are "favored apps" links  the same as "preferred apps" links?

#14 Re: Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-19 16:53:01

Let me steer this into a more general devuan topic.

When you need to roll back an update or install an older version of a package, how would you go about it?

#15 Re: Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-14 14:58:30

Thanks for the replies.

After resyncing package index, I was able to download firefox-esr 60.9, but I ended up getting the older version (esr 52.9) from mozzila archive.

I suppose there is no way to get the devuan deb package for the older version (esr 52.9) from devuan repos?.

#16 Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-14 04:41:19

devrate
Replies: 23

How can I download and install firefox esr 52.9? 

I had to purge it due to config problem, but I cannot get the version from the repository.  It only shows version 60, and I need 52 due to the old-style extensions I need.

I am on amd64 ascii (stretch)

EDIT:

I am also unable to download the newer (60) version.  From aptitidue, I get the error message

"http://dev.devua.org//merged ascii-security/main amd64 firefox-esr amd64 60.2.2esr-1-deb9u1 [ERROR]
404 NOT FOUND [IP: 151.101.24.204 80]"

Has there been some changes to the repos?  Do I need to update sources.list?

EDIT 2:

I tried to download the package using apt-get and this is what I get:

root@black:/tmp2# apt-get download firefox-esr
Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org//merged ascii-security/main amd64 firefox-esr amd64 60.2.2esr-1~deb9u1
  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.196.204 80]
W: Download is performed unsandboxed as root as file '/tmp2/firefox-esr_60.2.2esr-1~deb9u1_amd64.deb' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/p … _amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.196.204 80]
root@black:/tmp2#

My /etc/apt/sources.list is as follows:

deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib
deb-src http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib

deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib
deb-src http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib

deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib

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