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#1 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-16 00:11:22

well... this response is from devuan chimaera with xfce installed big_smile

# uname -a
Linux refracta 5.10.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.19-1 (2021-03-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux

thanks to command dhclient I was able to connect to network
and yes, I don't have a wired interface on board but I need a usb/thunderbolt to connect as wired

All update done as:

#apt update
#apt upgrade
#tasksel

@jacksprat
I don't know the difference between apt and apt-get, looking around I found that "apt is better way in devuan/debian shell".
Do I'm wrong?



I can see this is a pre-beta, some fixes are needed but I think I can use this installation to experiment.

Just to let you know:

This is content of file interfaces:

cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

If I can help to test something you can ask.

after reboot and log in xfce, to connect to network, dhclient was needed again
now I can see only wired interface but I've wifi too.
I hope I can uses wifi in future.

# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enx34298f882acf: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 34:29:8f:88:2a:cf brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.1.10/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic enx34298f882acf
       valid_lft 85887sec preferred_lft 85887sec
    inet6 fe80::3629:8fff:fe88:2acf/64 scope link 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

Thanks again to you guys.
nomorelogic

#2 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-15 18:10:57

hi all
chimaera installed thanks to refractinstaller
but I need some help cause network don't work
(sorry for following message not in english)

how can I setup wifi or wired network?


1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enx00243218dfaa: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:24:32:18:df:aa brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff


# apt update

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

Errore:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease
  Risoluzione di "deb.devuan.org" temporaneamente non riuscita
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti...
Generazione albero delle dipendenze...
Lettura informazioni sullo stato...
Tutti i pacchetti sono aggiornati.
W: Impossibile recuperare http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera/InRelease  Risoluzione di "deb.devuan.org" temporaneamente non riuscita
W: Impossibile scaricare alcuni file di indice: saranno ignorati o verranno usati quelli vecchi.

#3 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-15 11:05:21

quick update:
voidlinux (x86_64, glibc, xfce) installed correctly
works great!

next time I'll try refracta and chimaera

#4 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-14 14:56:53

Ok, I'll try chimaera iso and refractainstaller.
I need some days, but I'll do this test.

#5 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-14 14:10:21

jacksprat wrote:

Modern INTEL processor:  can I suggest that you download a modern, live distro such as one from

   https://voidlinux.org/download/

as Void kernels are from 2021, [5.10.17], it would be quick way of exploring this issue.


thank you

I'll surely try voidlinux

#6 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-14 14:08:10

hi guys and thanks for you support!

whell, to tell the whole story, I'm leaving my historical distro cause need a new laptop and my historical distro still use "the init system that shall not be named".

Currently, on my new laptop, I have a dual boot: artix and devuan. Artix boots correctly but (1) it's not stable as I need and (2) I prefer Devuan.

With dual boot (I think) I can try Chimaera but...
Head_on_a_Stick had a guide but says "but neither option is ideal".
fsmithred had chimaera-based live isos but: no xorg...

Well, I undestand, it’s too early for chimaera.
Do you think it’s possible, in the near future, to experiment with chimaera and a desktop environment?

Thanks again!

#7 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-11 11:40:04

hi wdp
entered using recovery mode from boot menù
I followed your instructions but doesn't work
anyway sourcelist are updated but "apt upgrade" can't find anything to do: all seems to be already updated

after some time I watched devuan from afar I was determined to use it with the new laptop
I’m starting to think I can’t...

if there are other ideas please tell me smile

#8 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-09 18:16:44

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

What is your CPU? If it starts with 10 or 11 then you're shit out of luck with beowulf.

processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 142
model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz


Can I abort devuan install?

#9 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-09 17:43:45

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Andre4freedom wrote:

Intel chips work well

10th generation Intel chips onwards need a newer Mesa version than is available for Devuan beowulf. The same is true for the most recent AMD cards.

The OP should also note that all current graphics cards require non-free firmware even with the open source drivers supplied by the kernel.

See also http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142974

EDIT: and please change the thread title — your machine doesn't "hang", it just fails to load the graphical desktop.


thanks for this link but no success here

I followed 1st step (added "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" to the end of the line that starts with "linux") but at boot (ctrl+x) I 've same blank screen with cursor blinking sad

#10 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-09 17:40:46

PedroReina wrote:
nomorelogic wrote:

server ssh

Can you connect from another machine?

No, just tested, unable to connect

#11 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-09 17:33:32

Andre4freedom wrote:

I own a HP elitebook PC (Hewlett-Packard HP EliteBook 8460p/161C)
and it runs like a charm with Devuan Beowulf.
All I can say is this:
- first of all, make sure you reset all BIOS-settings to default,
- then make sensible changes you wish to it.
- then, if UEFI boot mode is used, disable "Secure Boot" (That means DO NOT USE THE TPM)
You can use classic BIOS mode as well (CHS-mode for the disks). It's less tricky.
Then install normally.
Do you have any special graphics processor on board? Intel chips work well, but be careful if there is a NVIDIA or AMD GPU.
Good luck.

removed all secure boot, tpm and other security settings
no success, same lock

graphic card is
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics (rev 02)

#12 Re: Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-09 07:34:13

I read around sometime HP laptops can have this issue
but i can't figure out how to detect what's wrong

no idea?

#13 Installation » devuan fresh installation on HP laptop fails to load graphical desktop » 2021-03-08 21:51:50

nomorelogic
Replies: 29

hi all
I'm installing hp elitebook 840 with a fresh downloaded devuan iso but, on boot, system freeze with a blank screen and the cursor is blinking in the top left corner of the screen.

Installed:
- KDE
- server ssh

Any advice is welcome smile

thanks in advance
nomorelogic

#14 Hardware & System Configuration » devuan docker image? » 2019-11-04 09:11:49

nomorelogic
Replies: 1

Hi all
I wonder if it is expected to release an official devuan docker image.

tanks
nomorelogic

#15 Re: Installation » [solved] vpgrp/devuan docker image » 2019-09-06 14:10:41

after apt-get update I've a new error but I think the cause is the same

root@4281eb6b4506:/# apt-get update
Get:1 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii InRelease [439 kB]
Get:2 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-updates InRelease [150 kB]
Get:3 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-backports InRelease [150 kB]
Get:4 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-security InRelease [143 kB]
Get:5 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii/main amd64 Packages [80.9 kB]
Get:6 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-updates/main amd64 Packages [2000 B]
Get:7 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-backports/main amd64 Packages [2604 B]
Get:8 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-security/main amd64 Packages [6928 B]
Fetched 974 kB in 1s (599 kB/s)    
Reading package lists... Done
root@4281eb6b4506:/# apt-get install wget
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Package wget is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'wget' has no installation candidate

follow apt-cache policy output

root@4281eb6b4506:/# apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-security/main amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0,o=None,a=ascii-security,n=None,l=None,c=main,b=amd64
     origin mirror.vpgrp.io
 100 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-backports/main amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0.0,o=Devuan,a=ascii-backports,n=ascii,l=ascii-backports,c=main,b=amd64
     origin mirror.vpgrp.io
 500 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-updates/main amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0.0,o=Devuan,a=ascii-updates,n=ascii,l=ascii-updates,c=main,b=amd64
     origin mirror.vpgrp.io
 500 http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii/main amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0.0,o=Devuan,a=ascii,n=ascii,l=ascii,c=main,b=amd64
     origin mirror.vpgrp.io
Pinned packages:

after that, I executed

echo deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii          main >>/etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update

now wget and libgtk2.0-dev are correctly installed

I don't know if replacing the content of /etc/apt/sources.list with

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii          main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates  main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main

is a good or a bad idea...

I've another question: does exists an official devuan docker image?

#16 Re: Installation » [solved] vpgrp/devuan docker image » 2019-09-05 22:17:21

hi bgstack15
follow file contents

/etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii main
deb http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-updates main
deb http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-backports main
deb http://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan ascii-security main

in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ I can't find any file

nomorelogic

#17 Installation » [solved] vpgrp/devuan docker image » 2019-09-05 09:03:20

nomorelogic
Replies: 4

hi all

I'm new with devuan and I'd like to make my custom devuan docker image.
The docker image I use to start my customization is vpgrp/devuan but I've some problems

1) unable to install wget:

root@311049c9574d:/home# apt-get install wget
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to locate package wget

2) unable to install libgtk2.0-dev

apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to locate package libgtk2.0-dev
E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'libgtk2.0-dev'
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk2.0-dev'

Can anyone help me?
Thanks in advance

nomorelogic

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