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#1 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Enable Backports - Newbie Question » 2018-06-21 04:38:06
What you need is apt-pinning. Google is your friend
From Debian Wiki:
"When pinning, you must ensure compatibility of packages by yourself since Debian does not guarantee it. Note that pinning is completely optional, and Debian does not encourage pinning without thorough consideration.
/!\ Seriously, don't do this. Doing this will break Debian and leave you with a system that doesn't work and can't be fixed. Use Backports instead! "
#2 Hardware & System Configuration » Enable Backports - Newbie Question » 2018-06-21 02:54:30
- Llewellen
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The Devuan site cautions against leaving backports enabled and advises only doing so for the purpose of obtaining specific packages.
But if I add backports in sources.list to obtain a couple of packages that I need from beowolf, won't I have to leave it enabled so as to receive updates for those packages? Or perhaps I have misunderstood?
Thank you.
#3 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 14:44:35
I think you're using the url tag back-to-front; it takes the actual url in the begin tag, and the description between the tags. So if you swap those, it becomes a click-accessible url. As is, one has to copy that url that is seen and paste to follow, rather than clicking it.
I double checked and I did have it listed as specified in tne <url> help section. However, I deleted the description between the tags and the link now works.
#4 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 05:13:00
Server not found
Firefox can’t find the server at deve22%20backgrouind.
Yada Yada
Wonderful. Evernote just went live with beta of an updated web app. Maybe that's the problem, although it does have a toggle to test the web address it generates in response to the <share> command and that worked for me. I'll mess with it tomorrow and then edit my post, either to post a revised, working url or to advise that I can't link to the background in question.
#5 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 04:29:24
This is a wallpaper I made for Devuan with Enlightenment22 DE/Window Manager. As you can see, I'm not a graphic designer but it works for me on my system.
The Devuan script logo is from the site; the E22 design logo came from wikipedia where it was shiny black - I recoloured it to be sort of close to the blue colour of the default E22 theme. Then I used a few basic, simple GIMP tools.
Ignore the panel at the top. I made this on a laptop running Manjaro because that's where I have GIMP installed at the moment.
#6 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 04:14:20
You'll have to post it online somewhere if you don't have access to a server.
OK thanks. Let me see if I can share a note in Evernote or Zoho Notebook.
#7 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 04:08:25
@golinux: Thank you but I can be quite thick sometimes. What's the url to a .png image in a folder on my computer?
#8 DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 03:13:02
- Llewellen
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How to post an image from a folder on my computer?
#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment & Falkon » 2018-06-13 15:12:32
I do not use it personally but it is another choice the user gets. Nothing more. Why are people always so easily offended is beyond me.
I don't use any of those services, for the reasons given by golinux and other reasons that aren't relevant here. But I agree with you that choice is choice - let each person decide what works for them.
When using these forums (and emails) it is so difficult to convey subtleties and inflections and so easy for actual meaning and tone to be misunderstood. Very recently I received a wave of vitriolic replies and name calling in response to a simple, non-confrontational question I posted on one of the Debian forums. Apparently, I struck an exposed nerve that I didn't realize existed. I am now reluctant to go back to that forum.
#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment & Falkon » 2018-06-12 03:35:18
Start with backports and work your way further from ASCII. Be prepared that it may or may not go smoothly. Not much has been done on beowulf yet.
Thanks for the help (and the caution 
I'm just using this in my home system, not in any production environment. I use two laptops, one as a sort of sandbox to try things out, learn and iron out wrinkles, and the other as my main system. I'm a non-programmer, non-developer hobbyist.
FYI my OS journey in the last two years has been Win10>Mint>Manjaro>Debian>Devuan (tryout). There's a philosophical thread there but that's a discussion for another time and forum.
#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment & Falkon » 2018-06-12 03:11:10
Backports is an optional repository that builds testing pkgs for stable. Add it to your sources.list. But be selective and only install the pkgs that you need, not everything that's available in there.
Both packages that I want are in both Beowolf and Ceres repos. So, should I enable <backports> or <proposed> in my sources list (on a case by case basis)?
#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment & Falkon » 2018-06-12 02:52:41
Have you checked ASCII backports? Maybe you could package it yourself if all else fails. At least they aren't on the list of banned packages so that's a good start.
No, but I don't see backports on the devuan site. Is it at gitlab?
#13 Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment & Falkon » 2018-06-12 02:00:08
- Llewellen
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Enlightenment 22.1-3 and Falkon 3.0.0-1 are daily drivers for me. They're in the Debian-testing repo but I don't see them in the Devuan ASCII repo.
Is there a safe-reliable-recommended way to install them in ASCII ? Thanks.
#14 Re: Devuan » Why Devuan? » 2018-06-10 15:25:54
There is no reason to assume that in Debian sysvinit, openrc and runit will continue to be available or that every application won't require systemd to work.
Thank you. That is a very powerful statement! As I said in my OP, I agree with the basic philosophy of avoiding systemd but I had not thought through the question as thoroughly as has Christopher and I had not considered fully that the current apparent choice of init systems in Debian may be obviated if/when more and more apps are written to be dependent on and require systemd. Indeed, the Trojan horse that he identifies.
I will be installing Devuan ASCII on one of my laptops for a tryout.
#15 Devuan » Why Devuan? » 2018-06-10 05:32:34
- Llewellen
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I am an amateur Linux hobbyist currently running Debian-testing (Buster) with Enlightenment 22 DE. I recently came across Devuan and, for philosophical reasons, find it very interesting. However, I seem to be missing the point, at least partially.
On the Devuan homepage, the main raison d'etre given for its fork from Debian is to avoid systemd and its complexities and entanglements. Yet sysvinit, openrc and runit are available in the Debian respositories, both stable and testing. There must be more reasons that made the fork seem necessary that I don't understand.
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