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#1 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Something rather bizarre regarding ram has happened, » 2024-09-14 14:43:38

I do not game, yet for decades 1 TB of RAM gets filled to capacity by normal day-to-day use (I tend to leave the machine switched on 24/7 & typical timings are 7 days to hit swap usage).

I had a dedicated server for approx 15 years & it would take months & months before it needed reboot. Just one month for a desktop machine. Not good.

#2 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-12 09:18:36

My almost-always-painless update process glitched today with a 404 when it tried to get the DEB. Immediately re-ran the (self-written) bash-file & it performed perfectly.

#3 Re: Off-topic » Something I realized, » 2024-09-06 12:28:18

There is one small extra to blackhole's excellent analysis which most folks do not realise (I am going to take the example of modem hard/firm-ware, since that is the one that I'm most familiar with):

It is little realised that most modern standalone hardware is actually a dedicated computer, in the literal sense. When it is powered up it boots up, usually into a variety of Linux. The classic example of this in the modern era is Smartphones, of course, but a perfectly astonishing amount of standalone hardware is a Linux computer under the bonnet. Usually dedicated to a specialised & limited purpose, but a computer nevertheless.

The picture in the previous paragraph began to be extensively modified for computer-connected hardware beginning about the 1980s, & that developed rapidly as computer CPUs + GPUs began to develop some serious horsepower. Computer hardware peripheral manufacturers realised that they could offload the processing performed by some of the most expensive sub-components in their peripherals onto the host computer. That process was manna from heaven for Microsoft, because it allowed MS to lock-in those devices to the MS OS. And thus the Blob was born. A BLOB which was MS-specific in it's early days, and often still is.

MS fully understands that Linux is it's main rival, is shit-scared at it's own impending doom, and does everything that it can to kill it's rival.

To try to give a little bit of current trivia that casts a light on this subject, have a look at this sentence from the utf8 wiki:

utf-8 wiki wrote:

UTF-8 is the dominant encoding for the World Wide Web (and internet technologies), accounting for 98.3% of all web pages, 99.1% of the top 100,000 pages, and up to 100% for many languages, as of 2024. Virtually all countries and languages have 95% or more use of UTF-8 encodings on the web.

To get the point of this bit of info you need the following extra information:

  • utf-8: default lang encoding for Linux OS

  • utf-16: default lang encoding for Windows OS

Precisely who is winning all the arguments? To date, that has been MS, but only according to MS. The evidence says otherwise.

#4 Re: Installation » how restore default permissions root folder after copy OS to SSD? » 2024-08-25 19:58:44

deepforest wrote:

@alexkemp

If so, what were the error messages?

freeartist-devuan@home:~$ sudo su
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libgtk3-nocsd.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[sudo] password for freeartist-devuan:

Since you are someone that ignores the advice that you are given, and yet expects others to keep giving help regardless, I'm backing out of this thread at this point.

#5 Re: Installation » how restore default permissions root folder after copy OS to SSD? » 2024-08-25 12:53:55

Did you use either su - or sudo (latter all by itself rather than 'sudo su')? If so, what were the error messages?

#6 Re: Installation » how restore default permissions root folder after copy OS to SSD? » 2024-08-22 18:59:48

use su - ("switch user to root") not sudo su. sudo by itself is "switch user to root one-time only".

This is the content of /etc/sudoers.d/README:

#
# The default /etc/sudoers file created on installation of the
# sudo  package now includes the directive:
# 
#       @includedir /etc/sudoers.d
# 
# This will cause sudo to read and parse any files in the /etc/sudoers.d 
# directory that do not end in '~' or contain a '.' character.
# 
# Note that there must be at least one file in the sudoers.d directory (this
# one will do).
# 
# Note also, that because sudoers contents can vary widely, no attempt is 
# made to add this directive to existing sudoers files on upgrade.  Feel free
# to add the above directive to the end of your /etc/sudoers file to enable 
# this functionality for existing installations if you wish! Sudo
# versions older than the one in Debian 11 (bullseye) require the
# directive will only support the old syntax #includedir, and the current
# sudo will happily accept both @includedir and #includedir
#
# Finally, please note that using the visudo command is the recommended way
# to update sudoers content, since it protects against many failure modes.
# See the man page for visudo and sudoers for more information.
#

For the record:

$ la /usr/bin/sudo
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 281624 Jun 27  2023 /usr/bin/sudo

#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » GParted - unallocated space within the partition(HOW recover data?) » 2024-08-22 18:46:08

Maybe one of Linux's star performers (though largely it keeps to the shadows) (I've used it: TUI, not GUI, very effective; you will need another disk to save your files/partition to, including deleted files):

$ apt info testdisk
Package: testdisk
Version: 7.1-5+nmu1
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: Jean-Michel Kelbert <kelbert@debian.org>
Installed-Size: 1,447 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34), libext2fs2 (>= 1.41.0), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1), libncursesw6 (>= 6), libntfs-3g89, libtinfo6 (>= 6), libuuid1 (>= 2.16), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), ntfs-3g
Tag: admin::boot, admin::filesystem, admin::forensics, admin::recovery,
 interface::commandline, interface::text-mode, role::program,
 scope::utility, uitoolkit::ncurses, use::checking
Download-Size: 415 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
Description: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool
 TestDisk checks the partition and boot sectors of your disks.
 It is very useful in forensics, recovering lost partitions.
 It works with :
  * DOS/Windows FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32
  * NTFS ( Windows NT/2K/XP )
  * Linux Ext2 and Ext3
  * BeFS ( BeOS )
  * BSD disklabel ( FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD )
  * CramFS (Compressed File System)
  * HFS and HFS+, Hierarchical File System
  * JFS, IBM's Journaled File System
  * Linux Raid
  * Linux Swap (versions 1 and 2)
  * LVM and LVM2, Linux Logical Volume Manager
  * Netware NSS
  * ReiserFS 3.5 and 3.6
  * Sun Solaris i386 disklabel
  * UFS and UFS2 (Sun/BSD/...)
  * XFS, SGI's Journaled File System
 .
 PhotoRec is file data recovery software designed to recover
 lost pictures from digital camera memory or even Hard Disks.
 It has been extended to search also for non audio/video headers.
 It searches for following files and is able to undelete them:
  * Sun/NeXT audio data (.au)
  * RIFF audio/video (.avi/.wav)
  * BMP bitmap (.bmp)
  * bzip2 compressed data (.bz2)
  * Source code written in C (.c)
  * Canon Raw picture (.crw)
  * Canon catalog (.ctg)
  * FAT subdirectory
  * Microsoft Office Document (.doc)
  * Nikon dsc (.dsc)
  * HTML page (.html)
  * JPEG picture (.jpg)
  * MOV video (.mov)
  * MP3 audio (MPEG ADTS, layer III, v1) (.mp3)
  * Moving Picture Experts Group video (.mpg)
  * Minolta Raw picture (.mrw)
  * Olympus Raw Format picture (.orf)
  * Portable Document Format (.pdf)
  * Perl script (.pl)
  * Portable Network Graphics (.png)
  * Raw Fujifilm picture (.raf)
  * Contax picture (.raw)
  * Rollei picture (.rdc)
  * Rich Text Format (.rtf)
  * Shell script (.sh)
  * Tar archive (.tar )
  * Tag Image File Format (.tiff)
  * Microsoft ASF (.wma)
  * Sigma/Foveon X3 raw picture (.x3f)
  * zip archive (.zip)

#8 Re: Installation » how to install kernel 6.6.47 (or 6.10.6) in a new daedalus install » 2024-08-22 18:37:07

Thanks for the info, @rolfie (new to me, even after all these years).

#9 Re: Installation » how to install kernel 6.6.47 (or 6.10.6) in a new daedalus install » 2024-08-22 10:34:23

I've got bpo in my sources & yet the latest image installed is 6.1.99:

$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus                  main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates          main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security         main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports        main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/josm.list:deb https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/ alldist universe  
$ apt search linux-image-amd64
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
linux-image-amd64/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates,now 6.1.99-1 amd64 [installed]
  Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)

linux-image-amd64-dbg/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates 6.1.99-1 amd64
  Debugging symbols for Linux amd64 configuration (meta-package)

linux-image-amd64-signed-template/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates 6.1.99-1 amd64
  Template for signed linux-image packages for amd64

It's not that other, later kernels are not available; they are but for some reason are not picked up:

$ apt search linux-image | fgrep bpo

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

linux-headers-6.9.7+bpo-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.9.7+bpo-amd64
linux-headers-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64
linux-headers-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64
linux-image-5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/now 5.14.9-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.15.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/now 5.15.5-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.15.0-0.bpo.3-amd64/now 5.15.15-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.16.0-0.bpo.3-amd64/now 5.16.11-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64/now 5.16.12-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.18.0-0.bpo.1-amd64/now 5.18.2-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.18.0-0.deb11.3-amd64/now 5.18.14-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.18.0-0.deb11.4-amd64/now 5.18.16-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.19.0-0.deb11.2-amd64/now 5.19.11-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.0.0-0.deb11.2-amd64/now 6.0.3-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.0.0-0.deb11.6-amd64/now 6.0.12-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.1.0-0.deb11.5-amd64/now 6.1.12-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.1.0-0.deb11.6-amd64/now 6.1.15-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.1.0-0.deb11.7-amd64/now 6.1.20-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64-dbg/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
  Debug symbols for linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64-unsigned/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64-dbg/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
  Debug symbols for linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64-unsigned/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64-dbg/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
  Debug symbols for linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64-unsigned/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64

#10 Re: Installation » how restore default permissions root folder after copy OS to SSD? » 2024-08-20 11:23:42

Simple answer:
Use rsync -aH to copy files across.

That can be done as many times as required. It is also intelligent enough to only update metadata & not try to do an unnecessary 2nd copy of data if permissions are the only change.

#11 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 5 not booting. » 2024-08-20 11:14:58

fwiw I've currently got Devuan 5 on an EFI (former Windows) desktop computer which works well. This is the structure:-

$ tree -d /boot
/boot
├── efi
│   ├── boot
│   │   └── grub
│   │       └── x86_64-efi
│   └── EFI
│       └── debian
└── grub
    ├── fonts
    ├── locale
    └── x86_64-efi

11 directories
$ df -hT
Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev           devtmpfs  3.6G     0  3.6G   0% /dev
tmpfs          tmpfs     736M 1016K  735M   1% /run
/dev/sda2      ext4      909G  834G   76G  92% /
tmpfs          tmpfs     5.0M   12K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs          tmpfs     3.0G   75M  2.9G   3% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1      vfat      511M   49M  463M  10% /boot/efi
tmpfs          tmpfs     736M   20K  736M   1% /run/user/1000
$ df /boot /boot/efi -hT
Filesystem     Type  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2      ext4  909G  834G   76G  92% /
/dev/sda1      vfat  511M   49M  463M  10% /boot/efi
$ neofetch
   ..,,;;;::;,..                   alexk@ng3 
           `':ddd;:,.              --------- 
                 `'dPPd:,.         OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus) x86_64 
                     `:b$$b`.      Model: 90BJ008CUK Lenovo H30-05 
                        'P$$$d`    Kernel: 6.1.0-23-amd64 
                         .$$$$$`   Uptime: 7 days, 21 hours, 20 mins 
                         ;$$$$$P   Packages: 3169 (dpkg) 
                      .:P$$$$$$`   Shell: bash 5.2.15 
                  .,:b$$$$$$$;'    Resolution: 1920x1080 
             .,:dP$$$$$$$$b:'      DE: Xfce 4.18 
      .,:;db$$$$$$$$$$Pd'`         WM: Xfwm4 
 ,db$$$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`             WM Theme: Default 
:$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`                  Theme: Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire [GTK2] 
 `$$$$$bd:''`                      Icons: oxygen [GTK2] 
   `'''`                           Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
                                   Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
                                   CPU: AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics (4) @ 2.200GHz 
                                   GPU: AMD ATI Radeon R4/R5 Graphics 
                                   Memory: 3815MiB / 7356MiB

#12 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 18:44:38

I had a similar problem to yours & posted about it: Virgin Media blocking Open-Source Sites.

tl;dr: VM had buggered up their BGP routing & I could not reach, kde.org, devuan.org or dev1galaxy.org (all HETZNER-AS hosted sites). A useful site in situations like this is https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/. My problem was fixed only when VM fixed their routing after I emailed them.

PS BGP routing is used to traceroute to a site:

$ traceroute devuan.org
traceroute to devuan.org (116.202.138.214), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  1.612 ms  2.243 ms  3.152 ms
 2  * * *
 3  nott-core-2b-ae80-650.network.virginmedia.net (81.109.166.69)  22.865 ms  23.166 ms  23.401 ms
 4  * * *
 5  eislou2-ic-1-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.254.85.145)  37.897 ms  37.283 ms  43.205 ms
 6  ae21-0.lon20.core-backbone.com (80.255.9.125)  36.841 ms  15.679 ms  22.071 ms
 7  ae1-2014.nbg40.core-backbone.com (81.95.9.14)  36.162 ms  36.527 ms  37.013 ms
 8  core-backbone.hetzner.com (81.95.15.6)  35.085 ms core-backbone.hetzner.com (5.56.20.254)  36.375 ms core-backbone.hetzner.com (81.95.15.6)  34.779 ms
 9  core11.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.229.161)  34.982 ms  36.123 ms core12.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.229.165)  35.627 ms
10  ex9k1.dc1.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.203.226)  34.409 ms ex9k1.dc1.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.203.222)  33.108 ms  40.247 ms
11  bonito.devuan.org (85.10.193.185)  37.010 ms  35.436 ms  30.039 ms
12  www.devuan.org (116.202.138.214)  36.284 ms  43.089 ms  35.657 ms

2024-08-17 update: I originally said "used in ping to trace to a site" & corrected + added an example to make it clearer.

#13 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 10:38:45

My Daedalus was successfully updated this morning (3 packages updated). For the record, here is another update:

$ ~/.local/sbin/update
Hit:1 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt alldist InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
Hit:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease
Hit:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease
Hit:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
W: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/dists/alldist/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

I cannot recall a problem across the last 5 years, though there must have been a temporary problem at some point.

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » timedatectl not found » 2024-08-12 09:44:51

A quick DDG showed that this has already been solved in this forum (March 2024):

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6475

#15 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] php8.3 » 2024-08-09 12:33:11

PHP is a perfect candidate for inclusion within backports (BP), but it is not there yet:

$ apt search php | fgrep php8

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

libapache2-mod-php8.2/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
libphp8.2-embed/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php-symfony-polyfill-php80/stable 1.27.0-2 all
php-symfony-polyfill-php81/stable 1.27.0-2 all
php-symfony-polyfill-php82/stable 1.27.0-2 all
php-symfony-polyfill-php83/stable 1.27.0-2 all
php8.2/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 all
php8.2-amqp/stable 1.11.0-5 amd64
php8.2-apcu/stable 5.1.22+4.0.11-2 amd64
php8.2-ast/stable 1.1.0-2 amd64
php8.2-bcmath/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-bz2/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-cgi/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-cli/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-common/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-curl/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-dba/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-dev/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-ds/stable 1.4.0-5 amd64
php8.2-enchant/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-fpm/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-gd/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-gearman/stable 2.1.0+1.1.2-12 amd64
php8.2-gmagick/stable 2.0.6~rc1+1.1.7~rc3-11 amd64
php8.2-gmp/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-gnupg/stable 1.5.1-3 amd64
php8.2-http/stable 4.2.3-3.1 amd64
php8.2-igbinary/stable 3.2.13-1 amd64
php8.2-imagick/stable 3.7.0-4 amd64
php8.2-imap/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-interbase/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-intl/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-ldap/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-libvirt-php/stable 0.5.6-6 amd64
php8.2-mailparse/stable 3.1.4+2.1.7~dev20160128-1 amd64
php8.2-maxminddb/stable 1.11.0-5 amd64
php8.2-mbstring/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-mcrypt/stable 3:1.0.5-4 amd64
php8.2-memcache/stable 8.0+4.0.5.2+3.0.9~20170802.e702b5f9+-8 amd64
php8.2-memcached/stable 3.2.0+2.2.0-4 amd64
php8.2-mongodb/stable 1.15.0+1.11.1+1.9.2+1.7.5-1 amd64
php8.2-msgpack/stable 1:2.2.0~rc2-3 amd64
php8.2-mysql/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-oauth/stable 2.0.7+1.2.3-16 amd64
php8.2-odbc/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-opcache/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-pcov/stable 1.0.11-5 amd64
php8.2-pgsql/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-phpdbg/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-pinba/stable 1.1.2-16 amd64
php8.2-ps/stable 1.4.4+1.3.7-7 amd64
php8.2-pspell/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-psr/stable 1.2.0-5 amd64
php8.2-raphf/stable 2.0.1+1.1.2-14 amd64
php8.2-readline/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-redis/stable 5.3.7+4.3.0-3 amd64
php8.2-rrd/stable 2.0.3+1.1.3-7 amd64
php8.2-snmp/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-soap/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-solr/stable 2.6.0+2.4.0-3 amd64
php8.2-sqlite3/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-ssh2/stable 1.3.1+0.13-7 amd64
php8.2-stomp/stable 2.0.3-2 amd64
php8.2-sybase/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-tideways/stable 5.0.4-16 amd64
php8.2-tidy/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-uopz/stable 7.1.1+6.1.2-7 amd64
php8.2-uploadprogress/stable 2.0.2+1.1.4-8 amd64
php8.2-uuid/stable 1.2.0-12 amd64
php8.2-xdebug/stable 3.2.0+3.1.6+2.9.8+2.8.1+2.5.5-3 amd64
php8.2-xml/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-xmlrpc/stable 3:1.0.0~rc3-6 amd64
php8.2-xsl/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 all
php8.2-yac/stable 2.3.1+0.9.2-5 amd64
php8.2-yaml/stable 2.2.2+2.1.0+2.0.4+1.3.2-6 amd64
php8.2-zip/stable,stable-security 8.2.20-1~deb12u1 amd64
php8.2-zmq/stable 1.1.3-24 amd64

#16 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Openssh update in Stable-Security Not installable? » 2024-08-06 10:32:03

This seems peculiar.

I ran the following twice. The first time it told me to use the -a switch if I wanted to see the extra record, so I did:

N: There is 1 additional record. Please use the '-a' switch to see it
alexk@ng3:~$ apt info libssl3 -a
Package: libssl3
Version: 3.0.13-1~deb12u1
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Source: openssl
Maintainer: Debian OpenSSL Team <pkg-openssl-devel@alioth-lists.debian.net>
Installed-Size: 6,152 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34)
Homepage: https://www.openssl.org/
Tag: role::shared-lib
Download-Size: 2,022 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: no
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
Description: Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared libraries
 This package is part of the OpenSSL project's implementation of the SSL
 and TLS cryptographic protocols for secure communication over the
 Internet.
 .
 It provides the libssl and libcrypto shared libraries.

Package: libssl3
Version: 3.0.11-1~deb12u2
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Source: openssl
Maintainer: Debian OpenSSL Team <pkg-openssl-devel@alioth-lists.debian.net>
Installed-Size: 6,154 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34)
Homepage: https://www.openssl.org/
Download-Size: 2,019 kB
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security/main amd64 Packages
Description: Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared libraries
 This package is part of the OpenSSL project's implementation of the SSL
 and TLS cryptographic protocols for secure communication over the
 Internet.
 .
 It provides the libssl and libcrypto shared libraries.

Worse, it appears 3 times on disk (all different):

$ la /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl3.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 417144 Feb 15  2023 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl3.so
$ la /usr/lib/firefox-esr/libssl3.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 394920 Jul  9 21:11 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/libssl3.so
$ la /usr/lib/thunderbird/libssl3.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 390688 Jul 17 19:11 /usr/lib/thunderbird/libssl3.so

#17 Re: Packaging for Devuan » Repository deb.devuan.org not accepted by Discover » 2024-08-04 08:24:27

I do not know what Discover is, but it is lying to you (or your ISP has misconfigured BGP - mine is Virgin Media & they recently did that to me for dev1galaxy.org + devuan.org).

What results do you get on an apt update?

#18 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Kernel provided by Daedalus installer won't boot 64bit machines » 2024-08-03 08:41:34

That is amd64.

You needed to run the following *before* downloading an ISO:

$ neofetch
   ..,,;;;::;,..                   alexk@ng3 
           `':ddd;:,.              --------- 
                 `'dPPd:,.         OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus) x86_64 
                     `:b$$b`.      Model: 90BJ008CUK Lenovo H30-05 
                        'P$$$d`    Kernel: 6.1.0-23-amd64 
                         .$$$$$`   Uptime: 15 hours, 48 mins 
                         ;$$$$$P   Packages: 3169 (dpkg) 
                      .:P$$$$$$`   Shell: bash 5.2.15 
                  .,:b$$$$$$$;'    Resolution: 1920x1080 
             .,:dP$$$$$$$$b:'      DE: Xfce 4.18 
      .,:;db$$$$$$$$$$Pd'`         WM: Xfwm4 
 ,db$$$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`             WM Theme: Default 
:$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`                  Theme: Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire [GTK2] 
 `$$$$$bd:''`                      Icons: oxygen [GTK2] 
   `'''`                           Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
                                   Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
                                   CPU: AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics (4) @ 2.200GHz 
                                   GPU: AMD ATI Radeon R4/R5 Graphics 
                                   Memory: 1375MiB / 7356MiB

You can spot the CPU near the bottom of that listing. Almost all modern CPUs are AMD64.

A key feature to understand is that there are "Daedalus installers", there is NOT "the Daedalus installer" singular.

#19 Re: Other Issues » Question on today's update » 2024-08-01 07:11:44

As a little extra, here is a way to dig out all the setup for APT:

$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus                  main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates          main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security         main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports        main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/josm.list:deb https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/ alldist universe

#20 Re: Other Issues » Question on today's update » 2024-08-01 07:07:20

@ron:
Sorry.

There are now so many versions of Devuan, and so many types of systems that it can be run on, that a poster needs to give some clues to help those that may wish to assist. Here is a simple way to accomplish that:

$ neofetch
   ..,,;;;::;,..                   alexk@ng3 
           `':ddd;:,.              --------- 
                 `'dPPd:,.         OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus) x86_64 
                     `:b$$b`.      Model: 90BJ008CUK Lenovo H30-05 
                        'P$$$d`    Kernel: 6.1.0-23-amd64 
                         .$$$$$`   Uptime: 7 days, 22 hours, 49 mins 
                         ;$$$$$P   Packages: 3167 (dpkg) 
                      .:P$$$$$$`   Shell: bash 5.2.15 
                  .,:b$$$$$$$;'    Resolution: 1920x1080 
             .,:dP$$$$$$$$b:'      DE: Xfce 4.18 
      .,:;db$$$$$$$$$$Pd'`         WM: Xfwm4 
 ,db$$$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`             WM Theme: Default 
:$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`                  Theme: Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire [GTK2] 
 `$$$$$bd:''`                      Icons: oxygen [GTK2] 
   `'''`                           Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
                                   Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
                                   CPU: AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Grap 
                                   GPU: AMD ATI Radeon R4/R5 Graphics 
                                   Memory: 3745MiB / 7356MiB

#21 Re: Other Issues » Question on today's update » 2024-07-31 23:00:09

Thank god that we are all psychic & can therefore define your setup precisely.

#22 Re: Other Issues » NetworkManager and drive access fail » 2024-07-31 10:42:21

A quick n easy way to show system setup to fulfil soren's advice is the terminal command neofetch:

$ neofetch
   ..,,;;;::;,..                   alexk@ng3 
           `':ddd;:,.              --------- 
                 `'dPPd:,.         OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus) x86_64 
                     `:b$$b`.      Model: 90BJ008CUK Lenovo H30-05 
                        'P$$$d`    Kernel: 6.1.0-23-amd64 
                         .$$$$$`   Uptime: 7 days, 2 hours, 22 mins 
                         ;$$$$$P   Packages: 3167 (dpkg) 
                      .:P$$$$$$`   Shell: bash 5.2.15 
                  .,:b$$$$$$$;'    Resolution: 1920x1080 
             .,:dP$$$$$$$$b:'      DE: Xfce 4.18 
      .,:;db$$$$$$$$$$Pd'`         WM: Xfwm4 
 ,db$$$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`             WM Theme: Default 
:$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`                  Theme: Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire [GTK2] 
 `$$$$$bd:''`                      Icons: oxygen [GTK2] 
   `'''`                           Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
                                   Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
                                   CPU: AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Grap 
                                   GPU: AMD ATI Radeon R4/R5 Graphics 
                                   Memory: 3496MiB / 7356MiB

(in life much more colourful than the above)

#23 Re: Installation » USB3 Disc problem with Daedalus on Dell 3525 » 2024-07-20 12:14:19

If you do not add [ code ] / [ /code ] tags to that mass of garbage your post is likely to be ignored by everyone.

I would have thought that the following needs paying attention to:- 2024-07-20T09:11:11.396818+10:00 delly kernel: [ 2517.941415] rtw_8821ce 0000:02:00.0: unhandled firmware c2h interrupt

checking for firmware within $ apt info firmware-realtek indicates "Version: 20230210-5", and that is nowhere near recent enough. Sure enough:

$ apt info firmware-realtek | fgrep 8821

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

  * Realtek RTL8821A Bluetooth firmware (rtl_bt/rtl8821a_fw.bin)
  * Realtek RTL8821C Bluetooth config (rtl_bt/rtl8821c_config.bin,
    rtl_bt/rtl8821a_config.bin)
  * Realtek RTL8821C Bluetooth firmware (rtl_bt/rtl8821c_fw.bin)
  * Realtek RTL8821AEFW firmware (rtlwifi/rtl8812aefw.bin)
  * Realtek RTL8821AEFW wowlan firmware (rtlwifi/rtl8812aefw_wowlan.bin)
  * Realtek RTL8821AE firmware, version 29 (rtlwifi/rtl8821aefw_29.bin)
  * Realtek RTL8821AE firmware (rtlwifi/rtl8821aefw.bin)
  * Realtek RTL8821AE firmware (rtlwifi/rtl8821aefw_wowlan.bin)
  * Realtek 8821C firmware (rtw88/rtw8821c_fw.bin)

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] mate desktop pdf opens in terminal with vim » 2024-07-16 09:00:43

In XFCE it is "Default Applications" & they are discovered/changed via menu:Settings | Default Applications. I would imagine/hope that all DAs have a similar setup.

#25 Re: Other Issues » Chromium wonky for anybody else? » 2024-07-16 08:53:36

Why did you not apt-get purge chromium?

There is also BleachBit:

$ apt info bleachbit
Package: bleachbit
Version: 4.4.2-1
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: Hugo Lefeuvre <hle@debian.org>
Installed-Size: 2,864 kB
Depends: gir1.2-gtk-3.0, gir1.2-notify-0.7, libgtk-3-0, pkexec, policykit-1, python3-chardet, python3-gi, python3-requests, python3:any
Homepage: https://www.bleachbit.org/
Tag: implemented-in::python, interface::graphical, interface::x11,
 role::program, scope::application, uitoolkit::gtk, x11::application
Download-Size: 479 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
Description: delete unnecessary files from the system
 BleachBit deletes unnecessary files to free valuable disk space, maintain
 privacy, and remove junk. It removes cache, Internet history, temporary files,
 cookies, and broken shortcuts.
 .
 It handles cleaning of Adobe Reader, Bash, Beagle, Epiphany, Firefox, Flash,
 GIMP, Google Earth, Java, KDE, OpenOffice.org, Opera, RealPlayer, rpmbuild,
 Second Life Viewer, VIM, XChat, and more.
 .
 Beyond simply erasing junk files, BleachBit wipes free disk space (to hide
 previously deleted files for privacy and to improve compression of images),
 vacuums Firefox databases (to improve performance without deleting data), and
 securely shreds arbitrary files.

…but watch out. That *really* is scorched-earth action.

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