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#1 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-10 21:07:30

Thank you guys for your answers. Just in case a beginner needs this thread, what I wrote above is ambiguous. Correct me if I'm wrong, most people don't need to enable source repositories such as deb-src blablabla ascii-backports. In any case, they are deactivated by default.

apt upgrade = aptitude safe-upgrade
apt dist-upgrade = aptitude full-upgrade and I don't feel comfortable with it. 
However, I would say that those who need backports should use aptitude to resolve dependencies.

#2 Re: Installation » blackports is not runing. I can't cach the kernel-package for compile » 2019-01-10 19:35:54

sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

comment out the following line so that you activate the backports repo (or add it if it's not already there):
deb     http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main
https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list

you can check backported packages here: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/

since you use backports, you will have to resolve a few dependencies. aptitude is better than apt-get or apt for this purpose. on the other hand, it is not a good idea to mix apt-get and aptitude. it may be wiser to stick to apt-get for now.

#3 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-09 16:34:59

It worked like a charm smile

Yes, not commented.

To put it plainly, I mean backports enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list

What you say makes sense and it is confirmed in this guide, that you should be able to understand because your nickname gives it away https://linux.developpez.com/tutoriels/ … eme#L8-2-3

Edit

Every time i use sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade I get stable updates and for example new virtualbox versions from backports if available.

Do you reckon I should do a full-upgrade? It broke my system back in the day with Devuan jessie. Since then, I only use safe-upgrade and it does the job.

#4 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-08 21:33:59

Everything is in /etc/apt/sources.list, there is no margin for error. I did not have access to a computer, nor did I have to tweak sources.list in the past. You are right to clarify this but I don't do anything until I read it in the documentation and experimented in a virtual machine.

I understand that a regular update such as sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade is only going to fetch the required packages from backports but everything I read made me think I had to close the valve. The following links refer to the official documentation:

Well, let's say it is highly confusing for something that is actually quite simple. It's ok to keep backports enabled if I fetch one package but upgrading everything is not recommended: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -t ascii-backports upgrade
I am going to stick with sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade (backports enabled)

#5 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-08 16:21:08

I do not use Debian repos, only their documentation. I commented the following lines in /etc/apt/sources.list

deb     http://deb.devuan.org/merged <release codename>-backports main
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged <release codename>-backports main 

I assumed it was advised to comment them out as soon as the backported package is installed. I must have misunderstood the instructions: "It is advised to disable backports and only enable to install specific packages." (devuan.org) https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list

If you install packages from backports repository (with "-t ascii-backports") and let it in your sources.list, it will NOT bring you unwanted packages. You will only get updates to those you installed (and their dependencies)  from these backports. This si even adviced otherwise you won't get updates to these backports.

Ok then. So you are saying I should keep the above lines commented and a regular update such as sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade will upgrade the backported package and its dependencies?

Thank you

#6 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-07 20:28:01

1) no need to uninstall a package
2) indeed, everything is on devuan.org but also in /etc/apt/sources.list
3) since there is no security support for packages from backports, all I have to do is install the backported package, uncomment those lines, and update-upgrade my system as usual?

#7 Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-07 14:00:24

HextorBRX
Replies: 14

Hello

I am going to use backports for the first time and I read the official documentation: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index3h2 I would like to prevent eventual incompatibilities so I have a few questions:

1) If a package is already installed on Devuan stable (e.g. LibreOffice, Firefox etc), do I have to uninstall it prior to installing the backported version? According to the documentation, backported packages are not necessarily compatible with stable libraries but they should be. I would rather not use the newest libraries, unless it is absolutely necessary.   

Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates) in a stable environment so that they will run without new libraries (whenever it is possible) on a Debian stable distribution

2) Would you advise me to comment out/delete the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list once the backported package is installed?
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main
Is this the same line in Devuan by the way?

3) I noticed that a few Debian users update from backports with the following command:

sudo apt -t stretch-backports upgrade

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install- … -backports
I am not sure this is a good idea to update from backports in a stable environment. Moreover, I will not use more than one backported package.

Thank you

#8 Other Issues » [Solved] bugs cannot be reported » 2018-12-05 15:30:25

HextorBRX
Replies: 4

Hello

I am desperately trying to report bugs I have found on two packages but I receive a "Message with no Package: tag cannot be processed!" email every single time.

I followed the instructions on how to report a bug and it is not the first time I do this. I used the example below:

To: submit@bugs.devuan.org
  From: diligent@testing.linux.org
  Subject: Hello says `goodbye'

  Package: hello
  Version: 1.3-16

  When I invoke `hello' without arguments from an ordinary shell
  prompt it prints `goodbye', rather than the expected `hello, world'.
  Here is a transcript:

#9 Installation » domain name (installation) » 2018-11-18 15:31:15

HextorBRX
Replies: 1

Hello

Out of curiosity, I would like to know when entering a domain name is relevant: https://ibb.co/jAexjf

I have always skipped this step.

#10 Desktop and Multimedia » PCManFM-Qt: eject or unmount USB? » 2018-11-18 12:11:37

HextorBRX
Replies: 3

Hello

I would like to know whether I should eject or unmount a USB flash drive before unplugging it. PCManFM-Qt does not have a "safely remove drive" option, only "eject" and "unmount".

I did some research and I think that "eject" is the closest thing to "safely remove drive". Is there a viable software that can remove USB flash drives safely? 

Thanks

#11 Re: Installation » [SOLVED, don't buy one to begin with] dell xps-13 » 2018-11-05 14:53:08

Proprietary drivers are automatically installed if they match your computer requirements. However, when you choose the "advanced installation", you are prompted to install your system with or without proprietary drivers. Therefore, the best way to handle proprietary drivers individually is to use the script in the desktop live iso.

#12 Re: Installation » [Solved] qcow2 virtual images » 2018-11-01 16:55:53

Oh, I do not use desktop files on Linux but it comes in handy in that case!

I run QEMU in a virtual machine to test it. I do not install new packages on my hard drive until I know what they can do. I think I am going to use QEMU without virt-manager after all. Thank you!

#13 Re: Installation » [Solved] qcow2 virtual images » 2018-10-30 12:45:55

and you use a mirror located on the other side of the pond in Netherlands smile

I am testing qemu in VirtualBox and I get the following error when I run your command:

Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory
failed to initialize KVM: No such file or directory

I cannot load the KVM module with sudo modprobe kvm-intel because I use qemu within a virtual machine:

ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_intel': Operation not supported

I did not forget to extract the archive and I installed qemu sudo aptitude install qemu without virt-manager in a new VirtualBox machine. Where did you extract the qcow2.xz archive by the way?

You can create a desktop file to run your virtual machine without virt-manager.

What kind of desktop file?

Thanks

#14 Re: Installation » [Solved] qcow2 virtual images » 2018-10-29 18:01:36

Thank you guys. I appreciate it. Basically, you have installed qemu sudo aptitude install qemu , loaded kvm sudo modprobe kvm-intel and then entered this command, right?

I forgot to mention that I use qemu with virt-manager (because I did not want to learn how to use qemu). I get the message above with qcow2 images, while ISO images work without having to intervene.

@clint.barton Let me guess: you are Dutch?

#15 Installation » [Solved] qcow2 virtual images » 2018-10-28 14:36:11

HextorBRX
Replies: 8

Hello

This is probably obvious, yet I don't know how to use qcow2 virtual images using qemu. Could you please point me in the right direction?

Here is what I get when I launch "devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_qemu.qcow2":
https://ibb.co/kjCzWV

Thanks

#16 Desktop and Multimedia » Epiphany - adblocker's efficiency? » 2018-10-28 12:49:06

HextorBRX
Replies: 1

Hello

Do you think Epiphany's built-in adblocker makes this web browser secure? It is probably not as good as ublock origin but I don't know anything about it. Do you have any information or feedbacks?

#17 Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] vmware-manager 0.2.0-3 [contrib/admin - extra]? » 2018-10-27 11:15:56

HextorBRX
Replies: 1

Hello

This package appears on your website https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ … 2.0-3.html but I cannot find it with apt/aptitude search. Is it being implemented?

#18 Re: Installation » [solved] choosing a laptop to get Devuan up and running *on* » 2018-10-27 08:02:30

Some Skylake processors such as Intel Core i5 6300HQ don't boot Linux either. I guess we should avoid everything that is Lake related.

#19 Re: Installation » Midori - cannot read videos » 2018-10-27 07:46:44

golinux, do not hesitate to move my topic. I posted in the wrong section of the forum.

I guess we will have to report the bug:
https://ibb.co/bsJSgV
https://ibb.co/jTfjTA

#22 Installation » Midori - cannot read videos » 2018-10-26 21:31:51

HextorBRX
Replies: 7

Hello

I have gstreamer1.0-libav and gstreamer1.0-plugins-good installed on ascii and Midori crashes as soon as I click on a video. Any ideas?

#23 Re: Installation » [solved] choosing a laptop to get Devuan up and running *on* » 2018-10-26 20:44:37

Suggestions?

similar to Microsoft Surface:
Acer switch alpha 12: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=acer+switch+ … _sb_noss_1
Samsung tab pro: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=samsung+tab+ … nb_sb_noss
The Samsung tab pro I tried in a store two years ago had a very uncomfortable keyboard.

similar to Google Drive - Drawings:
https://alternativeto.net/software/google-drawings/

Legacy causes less issues in my experience. Why did you choose UEFI dxrobertson?

#24 Re: Installation » [solved] choosing a laptop to get Devuan up and running *on* » 2018-10-26 18:37:38

Hello

I can tell you one thing: do not buy a Microsoft Surface if that's what you mean? They have terrible Linux support and you might miss a few functionalities. You want Linux to work out of the box which is understandable so do not buy one of those.

Any computer will do as long as it does not have a dedicated graphic card. It makes things much easier after the installation. Also, I would not go for Devuan on a brand new laptop because there are distributions with 4.18 kernels now. I would install Gentoo with OpenRC and come back to Devuan when the next stable version is released.

#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How do you encrypt files? » 2018-10-22 15:01:23

I have just watched the video and Tomb looks dope so far. What a nice name! The process is quite straightforward, even for mundanes (no offense to you guys).

@Panopticon In case you did not check it out, steghide is included in Tomb. It may catch your interest.

There is one functionality I don't know about. Do you know whether Tomb automatically encrypts file names? I used to tick a box to do that with 7zip.

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