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@golinux I hear steve_v was trying to compile it for that purpose.
I don't know if he did.
I am not brave enough to try running xenocara or xlibre from a source build myself.
So I say, you bold.
if you want a window manager and a web browser like palemoon, you might only need 1GB of ram.
But then again, I know more people prefer flashy DEs, so there's that.
@aitor looks interesting... you have a point.
@steve_v yes, that is true I suppose. Although, I was talking about people who actually are intending to be those things. You are talking about people who aren't intending to be.
So there is that.
@steve_v I have had no problems with Xenocara.
But you certainly are being very harsh. Maybe, chill?
That to me is childish.
Just sayin...
@aitor what do you mean by vdev? ZFS?
Curious.
If you mean ZFS, I think there are better options for Hyperbola, such as HAMMER2.
@Steve_v I couldnt really understand what you were trying to say here:
"@steve_v *is waiting for Xlibre to finish compiling right now*
And you? Yeah, that's what I thought..."
Btw. Xenocara has better principles in place anyhow. Why not try compiling that? Hyperbola did it, I bet it could be done in devuan too.
Yes pledge and unveil wouldn't work, but its worked fine for me.
@steve_v as usual... punching down rather than punching up.
Its easy for you to criticize a small person so you choose that. Congratulations, you just played yourself.
Zzzzzzzzzzz....
Xenocara is the best option btw.
Xlibre could be good, but I am not certain yet of if he, the person in charge of it, is pushing his political beliefs on it.
Till I know, I will stick with my support for Xenocara only.
Now if you excuse me, I don't take pleasure in playing with your childish insults or in fighting them either.
Xenocara > Xorg&maybe xlibre? > Wayland
@brocashelm I don't know if or when they will embrace wayland.
Its possible you are right, but I don't know yet. I am undecided on what I think will happen with that.
@Camtaf gnome is a waste yes. Although, most of the DEs except LXDE, XFCE4 and LUMINA look awful and are bloated garbage.
And have unneeded dependencies...
This being said, I just cannot stand that level of arrogance. Such a-holes.
@brocashelm Agree with all of that. I just hope XLIBRE isn't tainted by the ideology of the person developing it. He supposedly is a fascist, I hope he keeps his views out of his project.
I don't trust him too much. But then I don't trust GNOME or Redhat devs either. So... yeah.
Corporate rulers = bad
Fascism = awful
I will have to see how this future progresses to know whether xlibre is any good. Although, Xenocara also exists and I tend to think that might be a better option. Besides which, it works in Hyperbola. Except pledge and unveil of course.
Time will tell...
https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Way … temd-Focus
Immediately found this out when browsing distrowatch.
As some people know, I find this to be completely stupid and flat out arrogant.
The cheek one must have to doing stuff like this is immense.
Then again, corporations love this kind of cheek... so yeah.
Thoughts anyone?
If at some point you can test openrc, that would be appreciated. I would more likely use it if that were the case.
@greenjeans hey what does CSD mean in this context? I assume its an acronym...?
Did you expect anything different? If microsoft didn't ruin most of what they touched, they wouldn't be microsoft.
That's fundamentally who they are.
Break things, to make money! That's also redhat too as well.
@brocashelm If he isn't fascist, he shouldn't use phrases like woke in a negative or use alex jones as a positive, because that is what fascists do.
@greenjeans Gnome shouldn't be dependant on systemd though. This is not the only reason I dislike it though.
The main reason is it has many stupid dependencies beyond that. That is just the cherry on top.
No DE or window manager worth anything should depend on dbus, polkit, pam, systemd, networkmanager, pulseaudio or pipewire. Another words, if it depends on very bloated redhat software, its crap.
Also, GNOME feels like windows 8 all over again. That design was trash. Then again, I dislike most DEs.
LXDE and Lumina are fairly decent. LXDE however alas, requires polkit for some unknown reason. (No idea!)
@golinux what about codeberg?
When Gnome started forcing systemd to be a dependency for GNOME 3, they lost all credibility.
They became worse than every other DE.
Although, I don't have respect for any DE but Lumina Desktop. However, I primarily use JWM, because it has everything I need with jwmkit as an option. Although I would still be using it regardless of jwmkit's existence. It has the functionality dwm has but doesn't look as awful and uses less cpu power.
What else can I say?
@lynch9
I also say the same.
As for whether librewolf is better than chrome, the answer should be a yes.
Firefox and chrome based web browsers aren't great.
ungoogled chromium could be considered an exception though.
Still, first place for me is palemoon
second place, librewolf or similar
third place ungoogled chromium or similar
everything else = bottom
Anti identity politics my foot...
He is a fascist clearly, as only fascists use woke as a negative. Also, only fascists use alex jones as a positive. So... yeah
Woke means your aware of systematic oppression. and alex jones is a conspiracy nut
This all being said, the gnome foundation can suck it for their persecution of Stallman. Especially considering the majority of the people who signed their rms cancel petition were corporate goons.
Also, just mentioning his name is not a good reason to instant ban someone.
That is like saying he is hitler or trump. He isn't on that level, yet.
@aitor I am not used to runit yet. I see now though, you haven't tested openrc yet.
I tried to install Gnuinos, in VM, but every time I do, it doesn't boot properly once installed. It immediately drops to a shell. Really... annoying.
Do you know what I mean?
I check off Openrc, I uncheck default desktop environment and check xfce4 desktop
and I also use FDE minus /Boot
There is something weird going on is all I can say. Not sure why it keeps breaking.
I was using a net install iso btw.
Speaking of init, I wonder if devuan will ever add dinit as alternative to openrc, s6 and sysvinit.
Heard good things about dinit.
probably need some kind of raid functionality.