Didn't know that there were amd or intel cpus that had no integrated graphics cards in them.

@tux_99 what kind of cpu do you have? I thought intel and amd both had their own individual graphics card functionality built in.

@stargate try looking at this, it beats the troll you shared and then some:

https://github.com/google/recaptcha/issues/519

@steve_v I don't use nvidia either... I tend to think, myself, why bother having an additional graphics card. They waste electricity even if you aren't using them and a lot more if you are.

Well theres one thing we have in common I guess, I prefer trackpoint over touchpad as well... I also detest the touchpad as well.

So much easier to write stuff down in a word document or similar with the trackpoint. Otherwise, as one like yourself would guess, you can easily lose sight of where your pointer is on your screen because you accidentally touch the pad and it goes off doing something highly annoying.

So yes, I agree there.

I am using X11 myself also but I don't typically use desktop environments, so I am not sure if what I will say will help,

But MATE, LXDE, XFCE4, Lumina Desktop are all ones you could look at.

I don't know how they will work, but worth a try.

I was speaking in general probably. I don't know how to do any services with regular sysvinit. So there's that

Does this work without root permissions? Also I wonder to myself if elogind has root permissions built in. Not saying one way or the other though. Because I have no clue.

If so, curious.. But doas is still easier than sudo in my experience. Can't say anything about elogind tho

the doas method isn't hard though and is easier than the sudo one if anyone hasn't used sudo's method which I never have due to there being so much clutter in it.

I couldn't figure out how to do stuff the way doas does in sudo

But yeah, etlogind probably is easier, although I have never used that method.

@golinux I thought you knew... but I guess you learn something every day eh?

@exponentialmatrix

Not from what Hyperbola devs have told me.

Although if this is true, they are dragging their feet on it for whatever reason.

I tend to think given their stance of perfectionism, they probably think people who need rust need training wheels type mentality. I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of what I would think they would say.

I have observed their anger before and heard about their toxicity towards people who fall out of their vision of what they want.

So... yeah.

They really focus on code correctness and yet they use C for much of it anyways and what I said before.

Btw, I do agree with you on the part you said above about there is always a cost and that battle tested code being switched to another language doesn't solve everything.

Probably would make a bigger mess.

And yeah its arrogance to at least 10 out of 10 with 10 being the most

@yemuyin Makes me think of Hinata from Naruto Shippuden to be honest after the war.

@stargate point taken, but which anime character is that in that picture? Just curious

@yemuyin what anime character is that? I have my own thoughts, but I am curious.

And yeah...it does look NSFW

Does that really matter?

Most people in the coding world use C and the best developed  most secure OS is OpenBSD and most of that is in C.

So if they don't feel the need to use Rust, why should anyone else unless they are incompetent.

Also btw, java and javascript are known vectors and both are bloated. So I assume Rust has hidden problems similar that haven't been found yet. Not to mention they haven't stabilized the programming language yet. What works now, might not work later.

Rust is also very bloated another words.

Just in case that wasn't clear. and I meant vectors of weakness for malware to creep in