I think I might actually consider supporting this project. I still prefer Xenocara as an idea, but whatever.

My disdain for wayland is growing...

synaptic doesn't work in devuan/gnuinos.

@EDX-0 Is there a way to make it so that I only need to press up and down to scroll? Without shift I mean. for xterm

@aitor actually, what are your plans for gnuinos?

Do you plan to remove dbus, avahi, networkmanager,  pulseaudio, pipewire , polkit and wayland dependencies from as much stuff as possible? I assume this is just a bold  thought on my part, but I was curious on what your goals are besides the libre aspect,

I currently though have gnuinos on one of my SSDs though

NovaCustom and system76 or Nitrokey are good ones if you desire new hardware. Otherwise I would pick a librebootable t480/t480s or similar

@stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn Yes, but its still far better than the stock bios with intel me rammed completely open.

Devuan may not do as much as I would suggest to getting rid of bloat, but even getting rid of systemd is a good start anyhow.

As for what I would remove as dependencies from packages that don't need it? Well I could say, but its off topic for now. poetterware/redhatware/freedesktop.orgware is all I will say.

Anywho glad devuan exists anyhow.

@EDX-0 It would be nice to have something that works  like sakura but with way less bloated dependencies.

It would have to have copy paste and show scrollbar as requirements. All terminals that do this require vte3 or vte2.

@golinux I think part of my response belongs in the thread where I posted.

"@knighttemplar you are kinder than I in this regard. I don't put up with crap like that. I would've probably told that dude who wanted to ban you, to quote "suck it."

Even though I probably would have been banned.

I don't tolerate corporate fascists or corporate thugs.

Also, staying with a distro that has such a community is close to the level of bad of tolerating actual idiots.

I have my limits I will say.

"

@stopai I am not fond of redhat or freedesktop.org projects and pipewire feels like one of those if it isn't already.

@steve_v OOF I didn't expect you to swear, and the F-word at that...

Dear lord... you are super pissed.

As for you going elsewhere, only gotta say, later then, if ever...

@golinux two things... should I watch this conversation with popcorn?

And also, if you think my nonsense was painfully stupid, look up qanon and pizzagate.