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just rolled back using a vm qcow2 transfer with a less updated version of the same OS...
Unlikely makes a difference but when using the linux-libre kernels and headers last year I downloaded the deb pkgs and installed them locally.
Did starting a browser from the terminal show anything useful?
As an earlier kernel version and another audio driver didn't resolve it, don't know what else to suggest.
When logging into the installed DE (LXDE) and then trying to get to a terminal with CTRL-ALT-F(1-6)
To clarify words... using CTRL-ALT-F(1-6) doesn't open a terminal. It opens a console (TTY) with a black screen and login prompt. If, say, the active desktop is on TTY2 and CTRL-ALT-F2 is clicked, it should do nothing. If CTRL-ALT-F3 is clicked instead, the desktop remains active but the screen switches to the TTY3 console.
LXDE's terminal is lxterminal and can be opened from the menu or possibly with Ctrl-Alt-T.
Local sound works but not the browsers... odd. Is there something invoked when starting a browser (firejail, etc) that you can test sound without using?
My mobo card/driver:
$ lspci -v | grep Audio
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [HDA compatible])
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller (prog-if 00 [HDA compatible])
$ lspci -k -s 00:1b.0
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller
Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device a182
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intelYour info shows the snd_hda_intel module loaded but not used as the driver. Have you tried changing the audio driver?
Last year I used an old linux-libre kernel for this old mobo and sound wasn't an issue, local or browser. Running an LTS kernel (from the repo?) might fix the sound.
Is it just the browsers or no sound at all for local music/video?
The 'HDA Intel PCH' sound card is for the Kabylake Intel mobo, yet a 'k6.18.3-gnu' alsa driver suggests an AMD mobo and kernel.
Are you running the just released 6.18.3 kernel with built in components for both AMD and Intel?
I think it's time to bring this old science-fiction movie to the attention of many more people:
Colossus: The Forbin Project
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/
Appreciate the tip.* Like the Terminator series which later followed a similar concept, corporate devs who are in it for the science and rarely consider (or understand) real world consequences are blamed. I tend to look at who mandates the devs'/scientists' efforts and arrogantly/foolishly perceive those efforts as a means to more power and control. Something like the 1967 Bond movies spoof, The President's Analyst.
* Watch/download Colossus: The Forbin Project at archive-org.
Not exactly a Frankenstein... something pervasively worse.
While the news is beginning to forcast cascading financial doom for AI:
Incoming AI CRASH - The Truth Behind the Hype No One Wants to Admit
Nov 2025
9:39
https://rumble.com/v722s8g-incoming-ai- … admit.html
Yet the not-so-publicized development is alive and well:
LLM's are not the frankenstein monster, THIS is the frankenstein monster: https://www.sciencealert.com/computers- … e-prepared
And stargate-scm's 'Intergalactic Assimilation' posted text gives a plausible picture of how it would happen: in the end we will all be assimilated
Consider how systemd became a reality, followed by blacklisting Master/Slave and Whitelist/Blacklist labels, followed by user/dev forums and lists rewriting rules of conduct so we would learn the approved of and proper way to communicate with one another... these inanities became the new normal, as have many other new normals. Is there any reason to believe this gov't funded and big-tech developed biotechnology wouldn't follow the same path?
2. lxqt-session:amd64 Depends lxqt-qtplugin (>= 2.3.0~)
but none of the choices are installable:
[no choices]
Lxqt-qtplugin is the problem. Version 2.3.0 is not available now but will be available soon. This occasionally happens in Ceres.
LXQt system integration plugin for Qt
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/lxqt-qtplugin
Had alsamixer and alsamixer -D equal in the menu but replaced both with your app... polished, easy to use and presets. Thanks greenjeans!
Do libavdevice62, libguvcview-2.2, libsdl2 get removed if you purge mpv?
Good thought, but no.
Note: libguvcview-2.2 is a library for guvcview, an app to test/set webcam functions and create local videos.
# aptitude purge mpv
<snip>
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libdisplay-info3{u} liblua5.2-0{u} libmujs3{u} libpipewire-0.3-0t64{u}
libsixel1{u} libspa-0.2-modules{u} libva-wayland2{u}
libwebrtc-audio-processing-1-3{u} libxpresent1{u} mpv{p}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 10 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 11.8 MB will be freed.However:
# aptitude purge libpulse0
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libasyncns0{u} libpulse0{p}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 1,044 kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
mpv : Depends: libpulse0 (>= 0.99.4) but it is not going to be installed
libsphinxbase3t64 : Depends: libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1) but it is not going to be installed
libavdevice61 : Depends: libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1) but it is not going to be installed
libguvcview-2.2 : Depends: libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1) but it is not going to be installed
libsdl2-classic : Depends: libpulse0 (>= 5.0) but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) ffmpeg [7:7.1.2-1+b1 (now, unstable)]
2) guvcview [2.2.1-1 (now, unstable)]
3) libavdevice-dev [7:7.1.2-1+b1 (now, unstable)]
4) libavdevice61 [7:7.1.2-1+b1 (now, unstable)]
5) libavfilter-dev [7:7.1.2-1+b1 (now, unstable)]
6) libavfilter10 [7:7.1.2-1+b1 (now, unstable)]
7) libguvcview-2.2 [2.2.1-1 (now, unstable)]
8) libpocketsphinx3 [0.8+5prealpha+1-15+b4 (now, unstable)]
9) libsdl2-2.0-0 [2.32.10+dfsg-4 (now, unstable)]
10) libsdl2-classic [2.32.10+dfsg-4 (now, unstable)]
11) libsdl2-image-2.0-0 [2.8.8+dfsg-1 (now, unstable)]
12) libsphinxbase3t64 [0.8+5prealpha+1-21+b1 (now, unstable)]
13) mpv [0.40.0-5+b1 (now, unstable)]
14) pipewalker [1.1-1 (now, unstable)]
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]y
The following packages will be REMOVED:
ffmpeg{a} guvcview{a} jackd2{u} libass9{u} libasyncns0{u} libavc1394-0{u}
libavdevice-dev{a} libavdevice61{a} libavfilter-dev{a} libavfilter10{a}
libavformat-dev{u} libbs2b0{u} libcaca0{u} libcdio-cdda2t64{u}
libcdio-paranoia2t64{u} libdc1394-25{u} libdisplay-info3{u} libdovi3{u}
libfftw3-double3{u} libflite1{u} libgsl28{u} libgslcblas0{u}
libguvcview-2.2{a} libiec61883-0{u} libjack-jackd2-0{u} liblilv-0-0{u}
liblua5.2-0{u} libmujs3{u} libmysofa1{u} libopenal-data{u} libopenal1{u}
libpipewire-0.3-0t64{u} libplacebo351{u} libpocketsphinx3{a}
libportaudio2{u} libpostproc-dev{u} libpostproc58{u} >> libpulse0{p} <<
libraw1394-11{u} librubberband2{u} libsdl2-2.0-0{a} libsdl2-classic{a}
libsdl2-image-2.0-0{a} libserd-0-0{u} libshaderc1{u} libsixel1{u}
libsndio7.0{u} libsord-0-0{u} libspa-0.2-modules{u} libsphinxbase3t64{a}
libsratom-0-0{u} libswscale-dev{u} libswscale8{u} libunibreak6{u}
libv4l-0t64{u} libv4lconvert0t64{u} libva-wayland2{u} libvidstab1.1{u}
libwebrtc-audio-processing-1-3{u} libxpresent1{u} libzimg2{u}
libzix-0-0{u} mpv{a} pipewalker{a} python3-dbus{u}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 65 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 110 MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]nI can remove it but finding daily use replacements for mpv, ffmpeg and guvcview without needing libpulse0 may prove tedious and not worth the effort.
If so, you could use another media player and in the process rid yourself of libpulse0.
Perhaps there are a few. Thought of vlc but libpulse0 is a dependency. Any suggestions?
The apulse package is (?) a compatibility layer to allow pulseaudio applications to work with ALSA.
That's my understanding. Can't recall why I installed it.
Q: do you want pulseaudio applications running in your box?
Nope. Won't use applications with a PA dependency.
If not, check with aptitude why for the reason the apulse package was installed.
If there is no valid dependency, you can probably remove it.
No valid dependency. I removed it.
Apparently it (libpulse0) is a package of pulseaudio libraries.
But if you do not have pulseaudio installed, what would the use case be?
No idea, yet there's a bit more. I set aptitude to purge libpulse0. It would have broken libavdevice62, libguvcview-2.2, libsdl2 and mpv, with no solution.
Pulseaudio never installed.
apt list | grep installed | grep pulse*
apulse/unstable,now 0.1.14-1 amd64 [installed]
libpulse0/unstable,now 17.0+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installed]
All lines commented in libpulse0's /etc/pulse/client.conf.
No pulse dir/file in ~/.config or /tmp
aptitude why libpulse0
i mpv Depends libpulse0 (>= 0.99.4)
Conky-std installed, no libpulse0 dep.
Got curious about IceWM and installed it. As fredbird67 posted, shutdown and reboot didn't work. In /usr/share/icewm/README:
The directory /etc/X11/icewm used to contain copies of default configuration files shipped with the icewm package. The original files were and are located in /usr/share/icewm/ directory. This was considered service to the users but it has also led to confusion and made package handling more complicated.
Therefore, the default configuration files are now only located in
/usr/share/icewm/ directory. To customize something for all system users, the system administrator shall copy the particular file to /etc/X11/icewm when needed, and icewm will automatically make use of that copy. Regular users can do the same, installing their version into ~/.icewm/.
As root, I copied the menu and preferences files from /usr/share/icewm to /etc/X11/icewm and edited these two lines in preferences:
# Command to reboot the system.
From
# RebootCommand="test -e /run/systemd/system && systemctl reboot || sudo -n /sbin/reboot"
To
RebootCommand="sudo shutdown -r now"
and
# Command to shutdown the system.
From
# ShutdownCommand="test -e /run/systemd/system && systemctl poweroff || sudo -n /sbin/poweroff"
To
ShutdownCommand="sudo shutdown -h now"NOPASSWORD lines for reboot and shutdown were already in /etc/sudoers so those two cmds in IceWM's menu worked. Same results had ~/.icewm been created with the edited preferences file. My system isn't set up for hibernate but when the line for it in preferences is edited, it should work.
https://daniel-lange.com/archives/192-M … rixie.html
@stargate-scm Thanks for the link. Wanted to disable that warning but like the last poster reported, it didn't work with apt-3.x. In a terminal, the apt warning can be disabled (without modernizing) after editing the format in the new apt.conf.d file
from
APT::Get::Update::SourceListWarnings "false";
to
APT::Get::Update::SourceListWarnings "0";
@paramtn Dunno why it didn't work as I've used what I posted. Can't recall the system default but you might check /etc/default/console-setup to see if the FONTSIZE line was changed from default to FONTSIZE="16x32". And that the GRUB_GFXMODE line is commented in /etc/default/grub before invoking # update-grub.
To edit the grub font and size so both laptops are same/similar:
1. Pick a font for your grub menu. DejaVu Sans Mono is in this example.
2. Convert the font to grub2's format using the grub-mkfont command, and set the font size:
# grub-mkfont --output=/boot/grub/DejaVuSansMono.pf2 \
--size=24 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf
3. In /etc/default/grub, add this GRUB_FONT line with the path to your freshly-converted font:
GRUB_FONT=/boot/grub/DejaVuSansMono.pf2
4. Enter # update-grub
This edit changes the font size in grub and the console to ~14. Adjust the '--size=' in the grub-mkfont cmd as needed. If the font is still pre-edit size after updating grub and you don't want to reboot, enter # setupcon -f in any console. This edit does not use the GRUB_GFXMODE line for resolution (commented).
Don't know if this resolves the posted issue. Just noticed this thread since my previous post.
Between May/August of 2025, Ceres upgraded virtualbox from 7.0.20-dfsg-1.2 to 7.1.12-dfsg-2+b1. I think it was after the 7.1.10-dfsg-1 upgrade in June when VBox failed to start. Was odd because it was just an update. Did lsmod | grep vbox and in addition to vboxdrv not loaded, got this:
libkmod: ERROR: conf_files_filter_out: Directories inside directories are not supported: /etc/modprobe.d/virtualbox-dkms.confThe error? Inside /etc/modprobe.d, VBox created the directory virtualbox-dkms.conf and inside it was the file virtualbox-dkms.modprobe.conf. I moved the directory out of /etc/modprobe.d and started the VBox modules: no more lsmod errors and VBox worked.
A search found bug report 1105784 filed in May. The patch to fix it was in July and noted:
This patch does two things:
It moves the modprobe.d file to /usr/lib/modprobe.d, instead of /etc/modprobe.d.
It actually installs the file correctly. <snip>
Why? Blacklisting the kvm module was required because it conflicted with VBox's modules.
The full VBox suite, upgraded to 7.1.12-dfsg-2+b1 two weeks ago, is in Ceres contrib and works without issue.
Both the Mate terminal and LXterminal support mouse-wheel scrolling.
Thanks, greenjeans. What you quoted was possible alternatives for others who want to use a mouse. Gave lxterminal a spin anyway and it reminded me of why I use the Up/Dn arrows and PgUp/PgDn to scroll. Using the mouse means having to move my right hand back and forth between the mouse and the keyboard (aptitude, man pages, etc). I find it easier to just keep both hands on the keyboard.
About lxterminal: on this OS, the mouse defaults to skipping two lines instead of scrolling one line at a time. Wasn't useful in aptitude.
Didn't see a scroll setting in the GUI prefs and didn't look further, just deleted it. Appreciate the thought.
@zapper, can say "didnt know that" about plenty of stuff I read here.
Does EDX-0's suggestion work for you?
@EDX-0, tried xresources a while back and for me, it was easier to tweak cmds in the fluxbox menu. Eg: got another xterm in the menu for aptitude, man pages, lsmod, etc. I added a geometry flag to the above posted menu entry so xterm opens to the screen height.
I've read that configuring tmux or xbindkeys can enable mouse wheel scrolling in xterm but haven't tried either. Also read gnome-terminal has built-in mouse wheel scrolling but the less gnome the better. How xterm is configured here works for me.
FWIW, using xterm without vte2/3 or clipboard app:
copy/paste:
highlight text to copy, middle-click to paste in terminal/gui editor
without scrollbar:
Hold Shift + Tap PgUp/PgDn to scroll up/down one page
Temporary options in xterm window:
Main: hold Ctrl + hold left-click and scroll to select
VT: hold Ctrl + hold middle-click and scroll to select
Fonts: hold Ctrl + hold right-click and scroll to select
Permanent option for scrollbar
Open /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm as root, add line at bottom:
*scrollBar: true
In my fluxbox menu:
[exec] (Terminal) {xterm -bg black -fg green -fa 'Monospace' -fs 14} <>
Note: adding -sb to the above line will open xterm with a scrollbar
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FF 140.0.4, site allowed in NoScript, JShelter
Same results for Librewolf 140.0.4-1
Nice GUI! Been using scrot -s -d 5 in the menu. I like the delay and it works well for my needs:
* Click on the desktop: image of entire desktop
* Click on/in an open window: image of just that window (entire window with titlebar) plus anything in front of it
* Select an area with the mouse
@chomwitt
I agree with the intent of your post and have occasionally thought about what was and what is. Comparing them doesn't seem to accomplish much other than a moment's reminiscence that it was good to have lived through and experienced a time and culture when that kind of cooperation existed.
The replacement culture was well under way by 2014 when the tech world verbally attacked Brendan Eich for a relatively minor campaign contribution he'd made 5 years earlier, and forced him to step down at Mozilla. Where was the rest of tech world's support for Eich, for cooperation and for keeping politics out of development?
Yes, there's a need for that cooperation in many fields, and except for small pockets here and there, I very much doubt we'll see it flourish again in our lifetime.
@stargate-scm
Thanks for the link to travellemming. Now I know why Reddit's been showing up in search results more often than it used to.
Lucrative move by Reddit. Wonder what redditers might do when enough of them realize they're a product collectively worth $60M/year. Also wonder if Nate Hake is considering how to organize those "Thousands of Independent Websites Like Mine" and do what Reddit did.
This any help?
[SOLVED] clocksource: timekeeping watchdog on CPU1: acpi_pm wd-wd read
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=278494
A few days ago...
Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre!
Updated: June 13, 2025
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xlibre.html
A controversial perspective and where AI fits in. Wallace's earlier youtube videos were met with "Real Computer Engineers react to Sabrina Wallace" in an attempt to discredit her. The first link is her current video. The second is text with informative links which debunk many of the "Real Computer Engineers..." arguments.
Human Networking by Sabrina Wallace
April 2025
12:13
https://www.bitchute.com/video/07GrPiCS7JtH
An Analysis of "Real Computer Engineers react to Sabrina Wallace"
10/2/2024
https://mr-chiller-505.github.io/Debunked_YTbrs.html