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#1 2021-01-10 02:57:47

pootler
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Lost wifi icon.

HI,

I am relatively new to linux, but am enjoying devuan.

Recently , I turned on my laptop to discover my top right wifi icon has disappeared?

I am still connected to wifi, but have no indication anymore of networks or connections via the wifi icon.

Anyone enlighten me :-)

THanks

pootler

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#2 2021-01-10 07:43:06

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

You should try to frame your questions a bit better otherwise its all just guess work.

1. how did you install devuan?
2. what wifi manager you are using ? (example, wicd)
3. what desktop environment or window manager you are using ? (example, xfce4)

welcome to linux and devuan.

Last edited by dice (2021-01-10 07:44:53)


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#3 2021-01-10 10:03:39

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

This sounds like PEBKAC so please also post your sources:

apt-cache policy

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#4 2021-01-11 11:44:51

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

HI,

Thanks for the replies, and the welcome.

I come from a predominantly Windows/Mac background, but wanted to escape about a year ago.

The accessibilty of Linux OS has improved tremendously recently, So I tried a few others ( Mint, Manjarao) until I setled on Duvean.

I dont  know enough to choose ''custom install'', so I would have chosen defaults - so I am guessing Xcfe?

Because of the large application store, there is little I am lost for, and although I am pretty rubbish at at terminal, I can get by if required :-)

TBH, I can't quite remember the exact details of install, but it was using an image from the duvean site, and via USB drive - sorry.

I update the build every week, and have had very little problems

Losing this wifi icon is strange- also If I open an app that usually shows in the top bar, it wont show up as usual - I use ''flameshot'' screenshot, but now when I choose it from the applications menu, it will not show in the top bar, so I cannot access the details.

The only items still showing in the top bar are, name, speaker, power, and time.

is there a terminal command/s  that will provide the info you are looking for?

Thanks again

pootler

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#5 2021-01-11 12:22:01

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

Hi pootler, sounds as though you have the default installation of devuan which i think is xfce4 and should have wicd as the network manager. I cant really help here as i dont use either, i prefer non gtk programs to run the wifi adapter like wpa_supplicant.
Hopefully someone will chime in here for you and get that icon back.

Before i go though, bring up a terminal and type the following and post the output.

wicd-client --tray

Last edited by dice (2021-01-11 12:22:39)


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#6 2021-01-11 16:05:15

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

here it is


Has notifications support True
Loading...
Connecting to daemon...
Connected.
displaytray True
Done loading.

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#7 2021-01-12 09:21:01

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

and the tray icon still does not show up?

maybe post the contents here of ~/.xsession-errors


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#8 2021-01-12 11:50:15

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

HI,

No wifi icon in the top bar :-(

your command doesn't give anything?

''sudo: /home/keith/.xsession-errors: command not found''

Probably me.

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#9 2021-01-12 12:36:03

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

no need to use sudo.

try this if indeed you have that file in the home directory.

cat ~/.xsession-errors > x-errors.txt

Now you should have a file called x-errors.txt in the home directory, open the file with your editor (should be mousepad) and copy and past the contents in your post.


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#10 2021-01-12 20:01:26

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

O.K.

I am starting to show my lack of linux knowledge.

output of your command gives me an 18mb text file.

It wont open in mousepad  ( ''wrong conversion''? )

it wont open in featherpad  ( permission error )

it will open in VIM, BUT this is nearly a thousand pages of text!, not the sort of thing a forum would appreciate!

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#11 2021-01-12 20:17:31

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

rm ~/.xsession-errors

Then log out & back in again and

curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io < ~/.xsession-errors

Post the returned URL here.

And I really would appreciate the output of the command I requested in my last post.


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#12 2021-01-12 20:46:04

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

HI,

Apologies

ouput for ''cache policy'' command is:

Package files:
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
500 https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable/main i386 Packages
     release o=TeamViewer GmbH,a=stable,l=TeamViewer,c=main,b=i386
     origin linux.teamviewer.com
500 https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=TeamViewer GmbH,a=stable,l=TeamViewer,c=main,b=amd64
     origin linux.teamviewer.com
500 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial/main amd64 Packages
     release o=. xenial,a=xenial,n=xenial,l=. xenial,c=main,b=amd64
     origin updates.signal.org
500 http://download.opensuse.org/repositori … Debian_9.0  Packages
     release o=obs://build.opensuse.org/home:smplayerdev/Debian_9.0,n=Debian_9.0,l=home:smplayerdev,c=
     origin download.opensuse.org
500 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=Brave Software,a=stable,n=stable,l=Brave Browser,c=main,b=amd64
     origin brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com
500 https://deb.etcher.io stable/etcher i386 Packages
     release o=Bintray,a=stable,n=stable,l=Bintray,c=etcher,b=i386
     origin deb.etcher.io
500 https://deb.etcher.io stable/etcher amd64 Packages
     release o=Bintray,a=stable,n=stable,l=Bintray,c=etcher,b=amd64
     origin deb.etcher.io
100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/non-free i386 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=buster-backports,n=buster-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=non-free,b=i386
     origin deb.debian.org
100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/non-free amd64 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=buster-backports,n=buster-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin deb.debian.org
100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/contrib i386 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=buster-backports,n=buster-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=contrib,b=i386
     origin deb.debian.org
100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/contrib amd64 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=buster-backports,n=buster-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=contrib,b=amd64
     origin deb.debian.org
100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/main i386 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=buster-backports,n=buster-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=main,b=i386
     origin deb.debian.org
100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/main amd64 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=buster-backports,n=buster-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.debian.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/non-free i386 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-security,n=beowulf-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=non-free,b=i386
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-security,n=beowulf-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/main i386 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-security,n=beowulf-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=main,b=i386
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/main amd64 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-security,n=beowulf-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates/non-free i386 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-updates,n=beowulf-updates,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=i386
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-updates,n=beowulf-updates,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates/main i386 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-updates,n=beowulf-updates,l=Devuan,c=main,b=i386
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates/main amd64 Packages
     release v=3.0.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-updates,n=beowulf-updates,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/non-free i386 Packages
     release v=3.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=beowulf,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=i386
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=3.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=beowulf,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/contrib i386 Packages
     release v=3.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=beowulf,l=Devuan,c=contrib,b=i386
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/contrib amd64 Packages
     release v=3.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=beowulf,l=Devuan,c=contrib,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main i386 Packages
     release v=3.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=beowulf,l=Devuan,c=main,b=i386
     origin deb.devuan.org
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
     release v=3.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=beowulf,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org


URL for additional command is

http://ix.io/2LP1


Many Thanks

pootler

Last edited by pootler (2021-01-12 20:57:53)

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#13 2021-01-13 09:26:50

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

Yeah not sure what to make of that .xsession-errors file, lot going on there. Wicd doesnt stand out in it though.

maybe have a look in session and startup and add to application autostart if its not there, log out and log back in again.

also do you have other systemtray icons showing, like volume etc..?

See here for help: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/preferences

FYI, see here to learn more about the xfce4 desktop: https://docs.xfce.org/

Last edited by dice (2021-01-13 09:31:00)


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#14 2021-01-13 13:35:59

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

Thanks Dice

Appreciate your patience and help.

Will investigate further myself.

Having done a lot of troubleshooting for other windows and mac systems, I do understand the difiiculty in communication with 'noobs'

Keep safe.

pootler

p.s as mentioned, I still have  name, Speaker volume, Power, and time in tray.

Last edited by pootler (2021-01-13 13:37:28)

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#15 2021-01-13 18:20:44

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

You have several foreign (non-Devuan) repositories active in your system so I would be blaming whichever software you installed from those. That Signal source looks particularly egregious because Xenial (Ubuntu) is not compatible with Devuan.

Try removing any and all non-Devuan software and see if that fixes things.

Note that Devuan has a beowulf-backports repository so you should use that rather than buster-backports (although the packages should be the same apart from the systemd backport).


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#16 2021-01-14 01:17:29

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

as head on a stick mentions getting rid of some of the foreign software might help.

a few suggestions in place of smplayer and etcher you could use the smplayer that is already in the stable repos and use gnome-multi-writer in place of etcher.


sudo apt install gnome-multi-writer
sudo apt install smplayer

not sure what you could use in place of teamviewer or signal, they seem to be personal choice or maybe needed for work.


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#17 2021-01-14 17:52:39

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

Thanks all

yup - will try and remove non devuan stuff.

Will report back in a few days - laptop occupied for the next three days running particularly long data recovery for an external HDD:-)

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#18 2021-01-17 23:15:37

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

THanks everyone for al your suggestions!

Sometimes its easier to start from scratch- so I decided to do a fresh install.

I will probably be posting new problems soon :-)

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#19 2021-01-19 04:33:19

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

pootler wrote:

Sometimes its easier to start from scratch- so I decided to do a fresh install.


pootler

Took the words right outa my mouth. I was watching and thinking oh No, He has a frankenstien rewire job with advanced linux commands being thrown at him.  Then you got wise, yet still good to know the meaning of commands above.

Last edited by Sawyer (2021-01-19 04:38:35)

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#20 2021-01-19 06:50:17

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

Not really that much of a frankenstein, just needed to delete those foreign repositories. Replace the buster backports entries with devuans backports and update, upgrade should have fixed it.

Pootler if you want devuan backports just add them like this from the terminal.

echo "deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-backports.list

then

sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade

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#21 2021-01-19 16:34:02

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

dice wrote:

just needed to delete those foreign repositories. Replace the buster backports entries with devuans backports and update, upgrade should have fixed it

I don't think that would have removed any foreign packages that were already installed.


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#22 2021-01-20 02:37:29

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

I just now looked at the repositories he had listed, and yeah no wonder(opensuse, brave, debian, etc) with all that and any xfce session/session manager updates going on.. lest frankenstein more like a twitchy, dissappearing boxes, desktop panel reloading on every boot.  sources.list and understanding what revolves around it is important, I always keep as basic and simple as possible. I use xcfe properly on all my normal end use desktops.

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#23 2021-01-20 02:54:10

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
dice wrote:

just needed to delete those foreign repositories. Replace the buster backports entries with devuans backports and update, upgrade should have fixed it

I don't think that would have removed any foreign packages that were already installed.

ah yes i left out the part about uninstalling the foreign packages first.


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#24 2021-02-07 12:36:16

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Re: Lost wifi icon.

Blimey - I was sure I had replied to this - but maybe not.

Thanks for all your advice and comments

Fresh install solved it.

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