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#26 2017-06-09 18:35:58

greenjeans
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Re: Life after Firefox

Tried Palemoon after reading this thread, and I have to agree, pretty nice, much faster than fizzlefox.

To be fair, it's not the browser's fault so much as it is the people who put content on the internet, there's so much garbage going on when you try to load a page on a busy commercial site.

A simple site like this forum, i'm actually browsing and posting from the little 130 line browser I posted, it's all you need for simple static content.

Needs to be a revolution in web content, no more patronizing any site that feels compelled to ram mountains of rotating ads, flash, javascript, thrid party crap, autostarting video etc. etc. , down a user's throat.


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#27 2017-06-09 19:48:03

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Re: Life after Firefox

greenjeans wrote:

Needs to be a revolution in web content, no more patronizing any site that feels compelled to ram mountains of rotating ads, flash, javascript, thrid party crap, autostarting video etc. etc. , down a user's throat.

Users have the option to take control.  Between adblock plus and stylish, I never see any of those offensive things.  At least not more than once.  Even at that FF is a resource hog . . .

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#28 2017-06-09 20:06:50

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Re: Life after Firefox

golinux wrote:
greenjeans wrote:

Needs to be a revolution in web content, no more patronizing any site that feels compelled to ram mountains of rotating ads, flash, javascript, thrid party crap, autostarting video etc. etc. , down a user's throat.

Users have the option to take control.  Between adblock plus and stylish, I never see any of those offensive things.  At least not more than once.  Even at that FF is a resource hog . . .

In the past couple of weeks, I have been doing some informal experimentation with browsers, and to me it is astonishing what a resource hog FF is. And s l o w .  It wasn't always this way, but now it's a very real annoyance. Then you try Palemoon, or Chrome, on the exact same sites, and things fly. I don't know why, but it's impossible to ignore.

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#29 2017-06-10 05:03:58

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Re: Life after Firefox

Palemoon is very best Browser for the moment...

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#30 2017-06-10 07:23:58

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Re: Life after Firefox

I use Pale Moon too. Chrome 2nd alternative choice.


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#31 2017-06-10 08:51:58

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Re: Life after Firefox

Running Pale Moon as default, FrankenFox simply is unusable. Chrome is an installed alternative, but quite happy so far with Pale Moon.

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#32 2017-06-10 08:57:08

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Re: Life after Firefox

Seems like we are in a war against internet advertisers, they are trying to make us watch stuff we don't want, & we are trying to have our browsers ignore & block them. wink

I used to use Adblock Plus, & it worked - but now, advertisers have found ways around it - so now I am using Adblock Ultimate - the war goes on. smile

I, too, have lately been looking for a replacement browser.

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#33 2017-06-10 13:18:42

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Re: Life after Firefox

FOSSuser wrote:

Seems like we are in a war against internet advertisers, they are trying to make us watch stuff we don't want, & we are trying to have our browsers ignore & block them. wink

I used to use Adblock Plus, & it worked - but now, advertisers have found ways around it - so now I am using Adblock Ultimate - the war goes on. smile

I, too, have lately been looking for a replacement browser.

Have you tried uBlock Origin? It does a fantastic job.

I heard that Microsoft Edge is a great browser! big_smile


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#34 2017-06-10 17:27:03

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Re: Life after Firefox

golinux wrote:
greenjeans wrote:

Needs to be a revolution in web content, no more patronizing any site that feels compelled to ram mountains of rotating ads, flash, javascript, thrid party crap, autostarting video etc. etc. , down a user's throat.

Users have the option to take control.  Between adblock plus and stylish, I never see any of those offensive things.  At least not more than once.  Even at that FF is a resource hog . . .

Yep, it still takes resources and effort to react to and block all that stuff, more effort many times to do that than it is to load the page in the first place, so everything goes twice as slow.

Ads wouldn't be so bad, if they were static. And weren't trying furiously to ram multiple 3rd party tracking cookies down your throat.


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#35 2017-06-10 23:29:26

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Re: Life after Firefox

Just for info-  Palemoon has an extension called Adblock Latitude and when installed look for the little red shield icon in lower left corner of browser to click on and off. At the palemoon.org site under extensions. I find it useful.


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#36 2017-06-11 15:25:04

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Re: Life after Firefox

some nomadays RMS or richard stalman said that in near future companies will take the network and domine the users behaviour.. seems the times its comes and get over users..

i only want to use the net for see some pages.. but today this means that event have a browser i must have a complete sub-OS as browser now! how stupid!

Last edited by mckaygerhard (2017-06-11 15:25:35)

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#37 2017-06-11 16:49:32

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Re: Life after Firefox

and now triying and palemoon are the most stable in:

chorme: said that i not have enough memory ..need some other 643571293 gigas of ram
firefox: slow rendering, too complicated now..
vivaldy : too many GPU usage, most rely on rendering work, complete based html5 web browser derived from chrome work, issues agains http sites
slimjet: too many windoze-like set bind as default search, complety away from FOSS not recomended and have issues on https vs http sites
midory: full of webkit incompatibilityes and crashes, its same as get chromium without tracking of personal data
netsurf: there's its tht a browser? well was good for quick things.. but for moder net no!

so pelmoon seems good now! an old firefox behaviour but not work in older hardware...

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#38 2017-06-14 09:18:59

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Re: Life after Firefox

Palemoon is my first choice:)

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#39 2017-06-14 22:03:11

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Re: Life after Firefox

FOSSuser wrote:

I used to use Adblock Plus, & it worked - but now, advertisers have found ways around it - so now I am using Adblock Ultimate - the war goes on. smile

I highly recommend uBlock Origin and it's sister addon/tool uMatrix.

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#40 2017-06-15 03:19:24

spartrekus
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Re: Life after Firefox

netsurf is amazingly fast,...congratulations for the dev.

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#41 2017-06-15 03:49:25

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Re: Life after Firefox

Didn't expected debian-security will push gtk3 build of 52.2 ESR  in Jessie, but they did it. Tought SLE/RHEL plan to do it at 59 ESR point, so looks like a bit to early and no idea why this rush in "stable"

Maybe "Mike is busy and security don't wait" reasons... Anyway:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=864851

Last edited by smoki (2017-06-16 05:19:44)

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#42 2017-06-17 07:52:38

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Re: Life after Firefox

Pale Moon, less resources hungry than FF, same websurfing experience.

Addons:
Encrypted Web (HTTPS Everywhere's fork)
uBlock Origin (ADBlocker) [thanks to linijkarz for the tip]
uMatrix (Javascript and alikes manager) [again, thanks to linijkarz]

Thanks to this thread finally my old laptop can get some relief!


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#43 2017-06-17 08:45:04

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Re: Life after Firefox

Capricornus wrote:

Pale Moon, less resources hungry than FF, same websurfing experience.

Addons:
Encrypted Web (HTTPS Everywhere's fork)
uBlock Origin (ADBlocker) [thanks to linijkarz for the tip]
uMatrix (Javascript and alikes manager) [again, thanks to linijkarz]

Thanks to this thread finally my old laptop can get some relief!

yah, congratulations for Palemoon

Noscript is a best alternative for uMatrix

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#44 2017-06-17 13:19:02

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Re: Life after Firefox

For those who prefer to control the new fashion in inter-server tracking, consider this add-on:
RequestPolicy Continued

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#45 2017-06-22 15:11:20

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Re: Life after Firefox

PALEMOON HAVE A PROBLEM not work well on mayority of sites... now after usage of some weeks .. some sites simply not work as well..

after retest all the browsers.. only chromium works as must do! sorry its the reallity

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#46 2017-06-22 19:00:08

Somewhat Reticent
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Re: Life after Firefox

mckaygerhard wrote:

… after retest all the browsers.. only chromium works as must do! …

Perhaps your criteria need adjustment?  Some websites just aren't worthy of traffic.  Your requirements and priorities may not match everyone else's.  Be calm, and observe.

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#47 2017-06-22 19:05:14

golinux
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Re: Life after Firefox

Somewhat Reticent wrote:

Be calm, and observe.

Good luck with that . . .

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#48 2017-06-22 19:18:16

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Re: Life after Firefox

Somewhat Reticent wrote:
mckaygerhard wrote:

… after retest all the browsers.. only chromium works as must do! …

Perhaps your criteria need adjustment?  Some websites just aren't worthy of traffic.  Your requirements and priorities may not match everyone else's.  Be calm, and observe.

tri it at github.com!.. i could not edit a already made issue... in firefox works.. but i hate now firefox.. tooo slower

but its maybe common in this days of constans changes on web.. one day works, another not!

also now appears upside the advertise that "your browser are not supported"

currently right now i at the older version of chrome.. in the other machine i have lasted of palemoon.. same advertise its present

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#49 2017-06-22 19:42:41

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Re: Life after Firefox

mckaygerhard wrote:

tri it at github.com!.. i could not edit a already made issue... in firefox works.. but i hate now firefox.. tooo slower

but its maybe common in this days of constans changes on web.. one day works, another not!

Seems that is a know issue with github, they seems to run incompatable csp and framework code here and there ... well, for your pleasure Moonchild tries to be rigorous there big_smile

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=15681

Last edited by smoki (2017-06-22 19:46:38)

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#50 2017-06-23 03:30:51

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Re: Life after Firefox

Solved this problem.

about:config >> new >> string

preference name: general.useragent.override.github.com
preference value: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/40.1

You can do this for all broken websites.

Last edited by pekman (2017-06-23 03:32:10)

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