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#176 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-14 15:48:05

Hi Ron, password storage issue that's been going on for soooo many years. Previously you could (as root) append password-store=basic to the exec line in Chromium's .desktop in /usr/share/applications and that might still work.

Exec=/usr/bin/chromium --password-store=basic %U

Problem is the gnome-keyring package here, I solved it in Vuu-do by uninstalling it, which causes Chromium to revert to basic storage. If you store online passwords at all you might look into one of the password managers, the gnome-keyring doesn't work well when it works at all.

#177 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-14 00:28:13

^^damn right!

Get yer butts busy whippersnappers!

#178 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Daedalus 32-bit to Excalibur » 2025-11-14 00:25:55

Someone thought it was a good idea to rearrange the deck chairs, even though we're all still sitting in them.

Wisdom and sigline material right there.

Not sure it was ever anything more than a control thing on their part.

#179 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Cannot change background » 2025-11-13 14:40:29

The new xfce4 will allow users to change the desktop background after install, but it won't let distro developers change it. We're supposed to fork xfce4-desktop if we want that.

That's bizarre and unacceptable. I agree with Altoid, it's time to ditch the rodent, but I think Mate would be a better fit for Devuan for the default desktop.

Not that it would be too hard to whip up a Crunchbang style simple Devuan iso, I think I still have a copy of Waldorf in my stash of old Linux CD's somewhere.

Funny how sometimes what's old becomes new again, Openbox is turning into the new hotness as more and more people get tired of the big DE shenanigans lately.

#180 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Daedalus 32-bit to Excalibur » 2025-11-12 16:11:30

My laptop is an older AMD, and it will indeed run almost fine with free firmware as will most i've tried in Daedalus, but there are some small boot errors like yours and my machine will not suspend properly without the firmware-amd-graphics package.

In Excalibur in tests so far on my old lappy, it has worse errors if I don't have that firmware package as I couldn't get past lightdm without it.

#181 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-12 16:04:32

Its memory safe and modern

Yes but is it free of evil particles? tongue

#182 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-11 20:11:28

@spliskin, timely post lol https://lists.debian.org/debian-securit … 00218.html

"Two security issues were discovered in sudo-rs, a Rust-based implemention
of sudo (and su), which could result in the local disclosure of partially
typed passwords or an authentication bypass in some targetpw/rootpw
configurations."

#183 Re: Off-topic » Work - or Support for project » 2025-11-08 04:15:31

Work? Sorry friend, i'm poor as dirt, wal-mart whiskey is about the best I can afford. wink

Forked DE? Color me interested, details?

#184 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-07 21:10:16

If you want to learn a new language

I really don't. I'm still trying to learn C, just squashed a few more bugs in stuff I thought was done, lol.

#185 Re: DIY » easydeb deb packager » 2025-11-07 20:49:32

you don't need to build easydeb, there's a deb in the releases.
https://gitea.com/easydeb/easydeb/relea … f3_all.deb

You could have led with that. wink

Grabbing a copy now.

#186 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-07 20:39:45

Haven't used rust, have read a fair bit about it... the code itself is a little weird, looks like my cat walked across my keyboard. I understand the principles and the need to guard against issues, memory leaks and such.

But having worked now in C for a short time, I assumed that was just part of the process, you write the code then you test it, debug it, test it some more, check error logs, watch the task manager for hanging processes, trace glitches etc. until it's fully demonstrated to work perfectly as you can make it.

You're still going to have to do all that stuff in rust too regardless of the baby buggy bumpers, or are they claiming that if it compiles at all then it's good and doesn't need testing?

Help me out here, i'm trying to learn.

#187 Re: Documentation » Make QT5 and QT6 apps use your GTK theme » 2025-11-07 16:54:46

Glad it worked out for you Calamity! Adding some links here to keep up info, these are the Excalibur versions:

Source code for both packages: https://www.opencode.net/trialuser

qt5gtk2 : https://build.opensuse.org/repositories … 93/qt5gtk2
qt6gtk2 : https://build.opensuse.org/package/show … 93/qt6gtk2

export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5gtk2

#188 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Daedalus 32-bit to Excalibur » 2025-11-07 02:30:51

The alsa error has a fix somewhere else on this forum. Search for alsa_restore and I think you'll find it. It's an easy fix.

This never got fixed?

Edited: I came off unnecessarily harsh last night and didn't mean to, was frustrated at the time, sorry about that.

#189 Re: Installation » Everything is working perfectly, thanks community » 2025-11-06 23:20:04

@golinux: NSFW = Not Safe For Work

As in not safe to view on a work computer as content may be sketchy.

#190 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA without PulseAudio and PipeWire » 2025-11-06 20:42:03

I wouldn't call anything to do with Pulse harmless, I dislike it as much as you do, but in this case it's not doing anything Igor. Nothing wrong with going to the lengths you have gone to, but it's based on a false premise, and so in effect you're posting a false alarm with incorrect data.

I'm not trying for bit-perfect anything here, i'll leave stuff like that to the audio forums and people with novel-length .asoundrc's.

If it bugs a person that much, you can probably get rid of it a lot easier by just deleting the 2 pulse .so files in the alsa-lib folder, lol.

In any case, the only reason I posted in your thread the last couple days is because another user tagged me and asked a question, so I answered it and now i'll leave you to it and not bother you anymore today.

#191 Re: Installation » Everything is working perfectly, thanks community » 2025-11-06 20:17:58

Okay OP i'm gonna need you to close some of the windows on that desktop and re-take the screenshot so I can judge whether it's NSFW. wink

#192 Re: DIY » easydeb deb packager » 2025-11-06 20:15:47

Interesting stuff and I agree with you about the need to simplify things, tagged so I can check out your work later. A DUR would be nice to have, I have some things that could go into it myself. Thanks for posting!

#193 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-06 19:51:28

11-06-2025 New versions uploaded.

Updates to Chromium and GIMP, some changes to sources.list, updates to VMAN and VAI
and ScrotShot and some general cleanup. Just tweaking and fixing the little things.
Re-worked sources.list to use deb.devuan.org by default but still have the gnulug
entries for folks who live in the continental US. Scrotshot is now set to open screenie
previews with Gpicview, but that behavior can be changed in the scripts and there are
comments in both (scrotshot, scrotselect) that explain how to do it. Some general cleanup
and behavior tweaks.

#194 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA without PulseAudio and PipeWire » 2025-11-06 16:44:16

If pulseaudio is removed, the PulseAudio ALSA plugin sits at the ALSA library level, intercepting all audio calls system-wide. This means every application that tries to use ALSA will encounter the broken plugin trying to route audio through the non-existent PulseAudio server.

No it doesn't, that's a myth. Alsa doesn't do squat unless you tell it to, so unless you've explicitly called pulse in a conf file, that plugin won't do anything. There's several plugins in that package like Jack in addition to Pulse, are you claiming that all of them are "intercepting" or is it just pulse that has you paranoid?

Your whole gig is basically a solution looking for a problem.

My Alsa is arguably "purer" than yours simply because there has been no mucking about with re-compiling plugins to remove functionality and sample-rate hacking. And it's going to stay that way.

#195 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] AMD or nvidia? » 2025-11-06 15:14:58

Go for AMD, much easier to get working right than Nvidia.

#196 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA without PulseAudio and PipeWire » 2025-11-06 01:28:41

FYI to all reading you do NOT have to install or compile various random github packages to have a working Alsa system or to have it sound good, or to have sound in Firefox. Don't blithely accept one or another individual's nonsense about what should sound best for you... judge for yourselves.

There is music, created by an artist, then there's you. Discretion is required for anyone you let get between you and that music. Ask yourself; are they an artist? Are they an engineer? Are they a sound technician? Or are they some random person who writes (or merely copy/pastes) code and puts it on the internet and tries to convince you that your hearing is flawed if you don't agree with their perception?

#197 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-11-06 01:13:03

now there is one simple thing missing :
a script which does all the above in a single call.
There are people, who write extensive lists of how to do one thing after the other and have tested them .
But then instead of pouring this in a single script. they are wasting a million times of users to not save them their time.

What are computers for, if not to automatize and transfer this knowledge.

and of course the script shall be in the appropriate package.

That would be progress.

100% correct, that would be the natural progression of things in most circumstances with most good and decent folks.

#198 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA without PulseAudio and PipeWire » 2025-11-05 17:25:46

My Alsa is fine, thanks. Sounds great in fact, sitting here listening to Iron Maiden right now, as the artists intended it to sound. wink

An EQ is for evening out the frequency response to match the inverse of their personal Fletcher-Munson curve, which of course differs in all individuals as much or more than their fingerprints do. This is basic simple stuff every real tech learns year one.

I believe in giving a user the choice to decide for themselves what to install, my job in my projects is simply to give them a solid working base to build on.

#199 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA without PulseAudio and PipeWire » 2025-11-05 16:54:16

@greenjeans
What is your Method?
OPs method seems very elaborate, at least. If there was a single script okay, but doing all the steps manually - tldr

No method to it really. I simply don't install anything but alsa when i'm doing an initial net-install (Openbox), and if I do a Mate install I go in post-install and un-install Pulse (and Synaptic forces me to install Pipewire). Then I uninstall Pipewire and it doesn't try to force Pulse, so pure alsa. Then install any additional alsa plugins like the EQ package and such. In Openbox I then install AlsaTune for a nice mixer/EQ gui.

Mate has a built-in mixer that you can't hardly get rid of without losing functionality. Openbox does not, so you get pure un-filtered sound with as little software between the music and your ears as possible.

All the browsers i've tried work fine with alsa-only. No magic needed or secret sauce. wink

#200 Re: Devuan » [Ask] Red Hat components, daemons, or services in Devuan » 2025-11-03 16:08:13

There's a LOT of stuff in Linux that originated with some red-hatter, I don't know of any way to get a list, but I see redhat in scripts and docs all the time.

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