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#176 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Sway with seatd » 2023-09-14 10:57:48
thanks stopAI .
I see the broad picture now . How PAM is a common authentication functionality library-service .
I ll try to dig little deeper and see how seatd- consolekit2-pam and greetd work together. Because in first glance apt depents fields dont offer any insigths and reading the project's sites seems that consolekit2 functonality overalps seatd.
ps: how to stop AI ? I think by creating p2p AI and fediverse AI ?
#177 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Sway with seatd » 2023-09-11 16:01:48
but why do i need PAM to access my pc that i am the only user ?
#178 Re: Installation » suspend on straight Wayland setup » 2023-09-10 22:59:59
i have created also the Index» Desktop and Multimedia» Sway with seatd post. Perhaps we could share our experiences with sway on Daedalus there in one thread ?
#179 Desktop and Multimedia » Sway with seatd » 2023-09-10 22:40:55
- chomwitt
- Replies: 7
I was happy to read in Daedalus release notes:
### Wayland GUI without elogind
Users can now enjoy a wayland desktop without elogind by installing
libpam-ck-connector, sway and seatd.
The main reason is that i like to have options and secondly (but not least important) i like to have a system that feels less opaque regarding the functionality offered by each package.
So i started a desktopless fresh installation into my PC and i gradually installed various packages in order to setup a decent , ligthweight desktop based on sway but without elogind and using seatd.
For reason that i dont currently undrestand sway wont start unless libpam-ck-connector
is installed. (that package is mentioned also in 'Devuan without elogind' by Iggy64 but again with no much explanation.
So sway starts by command line and i am happy but various application try to pull elogind and also to remove libpam-ck-connector.
Example:
$ sudo apt-get install calibre
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libpam-ck-connector libsystemd0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
blt calibre calibre-bin eject elogind ...
So i try:
$ sudo apt-get install calibre elogind-
..
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libpam-ck-connector
The following NEW packages will be installed:
blt calibre calibre-bin dummy-logind
...
What can i do in that case ?
#180 Re: Devuan » Devuan without elogind » 2023-09-04 22:38:11
In a fresh install of Daedalus with no desktop i installed:
$ sudo apt-get install elogind- seatd sway
$ sway
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the enviroment , aborting.
$ ps -aux | grep seatd
root - - - - /usr/sbin/seatd -g video
$ id
... (sudo) .. (video) ..
Strange.. but after installing :libpam-ck-connector i saw some progress.
I say 'strange' because i have not a clue what that package does..
Ok after also installing firmware-amd-graphics , i can start by $ sway
Now although sway runs ok when ever i try to install a file manager like pcmanfm , pcmanfm-qt, thunar , dolphin
i get 'libpam-ck-connector ' will be removed. And when that happens sway wont start.
I also installed 'greetd' but i dont know how to start the login gui screen.
#181 Re: News & Announcements » Daedalus is stable » 2023-09-04 20:04:28
Congratulations to the Devuan team.
#182 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] xorg conflict with luit in Daedalus. » 2023-05-04 08:09:36
What if someone wants luit and xorg ?
#183 Re: Installation » Cannot access repository » 2023-05-04 08:05:44
Ok. thanks for the feedback.
#184 Re: Devuan » Non-free firmware in Devuan Daedalus? » 2023-05-03 12:15:17
Thanks.
#185 Re: Devuan » Non-free firmware in Devuan Daedalus? » 2023-05-03 09:11:24
It may be worth to note, that all Devuan installer ISOs still come with all firmware in the ISO pool, for installation.
In my case . Daedalus netinstall iso why didnt contain gpu firmware ?
And what is the ISO Pool ?
#186 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] xorg conflict with luit in Daedalus. » 2023-05-03 09:01:44
Well .. i regret it for marking it solved. I mean i solve the issue by purging luit but a possible conflict lies there untracked and unnoticed..
#187 Re: Installation » Cannot access repository » 2023-05-03 08:55:07
Daedalus hasn't been officially released yet,& I think I read that that is the reason, as they haven't yet been set up....
And how a current Daedalus systtem gets security upgrades ?
And shouldnt Daedalus installer offer more sync info on the subject on the Package management stage ?
#188 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] xorg conflict with luit in Daedalus. » 2023-05-02 09:26:09
Indeed. Checked apt log.
Start-Date: 2023-05-02 11:37:07
Commandline: apt-get -o APT::Status-Fd=4 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=5 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=6 -q -y -o APT::Install-Recommends=true -o APT::Get::AutomaticRemove=true -o Acquire::Retries=3 install tas
k-console-productivity-
Requested-By: chomwitt (1000)
....sudo:amd64 (1.9.13p3-1)...
#189 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] xorg conflict with luit in Daedalus. » 2023-05-02 09:16:38
Things got more strange. I decided to run tasksel and remove all 'Console productivity' packages.
That happened indeed. But now sudo has been wiped out from my system!!
Invenstigating further....
#190 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] xorg conflict with luit in Daedalus. » 2023-05-02 06:49:10
I wonder what tasksel would have done during installation if i had selected both 'console productivity' and 'desktop enviroment'...
#191 Installation » [SOLVED] xorg conflict with luit in Daedalus. » 2023-05-01 16:24:19
- chomwitt
- Replies: 9
New installation of Daedalus.
In the Software selection stage : I selected Console Productivity (a choice done from curiosity) and no destkop.
After Finishing, reboot and login :
$ sudo apt-get install xorg
luit breaks x11-utils (<7.7.16) but 7.7..15 is to be installed
#192 Installation » Cannot access repository » 2023-05-01 16:15:27
- chomwitt
- Replies: 6
During a new installation of Daedalus ..
in the stage: Configure the package manager
in the step : Select security and release updates
I get the error :
Cannot access repository .The repository of deb.devuan.org could not be accessed. Its updates
will not be made available to you .
Turing to an Ctrl-Alt-f4 console i also see:
in-target: Ign: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus security inRelease
-//- : Err: - // - Release
-//- : 404 Not found ip : 2a02:2a38:1:400:422a:422a:422a:422a 80
E: The repository does not have a release file.
I continued the installation . But all the related entries in sources.list were commented.
#193 Re: Installation » daedalus amd64 netinstall iso installer graphics displayed incorrect » 2023-05-01 14:12:41
OK. i managed to install Daedalus.
During installation i got error of not being able to access a repo for updates.
Also after installatiion i had to add in sources.list non-free-firmware to install my gpu firmware. Why that change ?
#194 Re: Installation » daedalus amd64 netinstall iso installer graphics displayed incorrect » 2023-05-01 00:36:03
Thanks @fsmithred and @ralph.ronnquist . Indeed using vga=798 (1600x1200 , 16bit) the installer proceeds normal. The gpu is 6950xt . I had already problems using it at Chimaera , and it was suggested to me to try Daedalus. So i guess it's not my 21:9 monitor to blame.
@pcalvert . I didnt find text option. (default install , expert and speech)
#195 Installation » daedalus amd64 netinstall iso installer graphics displayed incorrect » 2023-04-30 17:47:53
- chomwitt
- Replies: 8
I used devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20230425_amd64_netinstall.iso
in my PC with a newly installed gpu 6950xt (rdna2) .
After i choose either default install or expert install i see a distorted image of
the installer that cant be read to proceed.
I found a 5year old thread of the same issue (i guess that devuan uses debian installer) :
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=132200
The image linked in that discussion is like what i see.
I tried the devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview_20230209_amd64_desktop-live image and it booted to gui with no problem. I write this line from using it.
#196 Hardware & System Configuration » 6950xt (rdna2) gpu not recognizable in Devuan Stable (Chimaera) » 2023-04-30 12:32:13
- chomwitt
- Replies: 1
In my Chimaera system i installed a new gpu amd 6950xt . And according to the wikipedia it's rdna2 navi21 architecture codenamed Sienna Cichlid.
My Devuan PC boots but in a smaller resolution and dmesg doesnt contain any related message. Also no gpu driver seems loaded ( lspci )
My initial setup of related install .debs :
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu 19.1.0-2 installed but it doenst have new version backported .
firmware-amd-graphics 20210315-3 But there is a new version of the firmware backported.
So i installed :
firmware-amd-graphics 20230210-4~bpo11+1
In the firmware file it contains related firmware:
amdgpu/sienna_cichlid_ce.bin
But the issue remains.
I remember a Phoronix article on amdgpu changing the way it releases the firmware. In that case could it be that a newer version of amdgpu is also needed?
Also it seem to me strange that both versions of xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu support the same chip families. I think there is something no rigth here. What is the relation of the driver and the firmware .debs? Can one support a family and not the other ?
Package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
Version: 19.1.0-2
This package provides the 'amdgpu' driver for the AMD Radeon cards. The
following chip families should be supported: Bonaire, Hawaii, Kaveri, Kabini
Mullins, Iceland, Tonga, Carrizo, Fiji, Stoney.Package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
Version: 23.0.0-1
This package provides the 'amdgpu' driver for the AMD Radeon cards. The
following chip families should be supported: Bonaire, Hawaii, Kaveri, Kabini
Mullins, Iceland, Tonga, Carrizo, Fiji, Stoney.
Refs:
Xorg RadeonFeature althougth not sure if it applies to amdgpu .
Archwiki page on amdgpu . Althought archwiki is another distro sometimes you find usefull info. not in my current issue thought..
#197 Desktop and Multimedia » virt-manager 1:4.1.0-1 is broken in daedalus » 2022-10-13 09:05:16
- chomwitt
- Replies: 2
Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus/ceres)
After doing :
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
$ virt-manager --debug
--if i try to 'open' the window of a virtual machine virt-manager
crashes with the following message:
(virt-manager:19736): libsoup-ERROR **: 08:54:50.904:
libsoup3 symbols detected. Using libsoup2 and libsoup3
in the same process is not supported.
$ sudo apt-cache policy virt-manager
virt-manager:
Installed: 1:4.1.0-1
Candidate: 1:4.1.0-1
how can i correct this?
I've checked https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/virt-manager
and bug reports upstream at the project's bug tracker
but i havent found something.
But in searching the interent i found arch related opened issues FS#75823 where the cause is said to be libgovirt on which many applications depend
I've managed to connect to a running vm from the command line:
$ sudo virsh list --all
Id Name State
-----------------------------------
6 Hyperbola_min_vm running
- Devuan_vm shut off
$ virt-viewer --connect qemu:///system 6
So the issue in my case dont seem related to virt-viewer
#199 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-07-16 21:58:55
I thing we live in an era that foss land is attacked. Not exactly the whole word . One letter is attacked.
For me the attack was formely initiated the day RMS visited Redmond (what was on his mind??...) .
Days letter the web lynching of RMS started. Paidophile, autistic , dirty bearfoot hippy..etc.
The great irony?. The MIT scandal raised serious ethical questions about funding from malicious and unethical actors to institutions
that we prefer to envision as public and motivated by higher ideas. Education, knowledge etc.
But the second greatest irony? Many Institutions in the foss land (SFC,Redhad,FSFE) aligned with MIT's heads scapegoating agenda saw that as an opportunity
not to discuss the matter of ethical donatiions but disgracing publicly RMS persona announcing to the plubs the new inclusive order of things.
In that new era.. Linus and Richard are in the social dysfunctional spectrum and in foss fora the new ideas of sponsor hunting and corporate friendliness have taken the sky..
HUGE piles of money (huge propably in our eyes for a big corp propably one medium scale strategy campaing.. for those uninitiated a study of how Uber conducts those affairs should be a good start up tutorial...) and donations from SFC to OpenBSD and Gnome have been softening the ground to let the new order bloosom.
Foss Newsites call us to be thankfull to our benovalent new masters in the fossland.
#200 Other Issues » Searching for gui utility with debtags support » 2022-07-16 21:26:19
- chomwitt
- Replies: 2
I've been familiarizing myself with debtags and the CLI command 'debtags'.
I found it helpfull and I wanted to ask if a GUI utility with debtags support , sth like packagesearch exist in devuan.
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