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#126 Re: Off-topic » lol! » 2017-11-05 18:02:48

Faraday cages, or even those anecdotal tinfoil hats, aside...

There's a lot to worry about in fact.

Personally I would not have one of those things in my home, but then I don't own a smartphone either...

#127 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 22:24:12

Well despite the ambiguity, I knew what you meant...

Get well soon.

#128 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 21:56:37

greenjeans wrote:

Can't tell people nothin', look around the forum, nearly all the reported "bugs" aren't bugs, they're ascii and ceres issues. You would think people would enjoy stable...I guess it's more important to say you got a 4.9 kernel, even if it doesn't do anything more than the stable kernel and your s**t keeps breaking. Go figure.

10+ years ago on the Debian forums, it was - and probably still is - much the same.  It got worse in the early years of 'buntu when a lot of new users migrated to Debian and decided that it was "out of date" - they of course ended up running testing and unstable and then proceeded to use the forum as a 'help desk' to fix their broken mess (this didn't go down to well with the regulars) - the rest, as they say, it history...

golinux wrote:

I had a similar go around with another user here regarding ambivalent communication a while ago.

Did you mean ambiguous?

golinux wrote:

Devuan has forked major parts of Debian relating to systemd.  Most of Debian repos remain unaffected and do not need to be forked at this time.  In the future we may decide to host all those unaffected packages in a Devuan repo but for now merging with Debian is a more efficient way to do it.

That clears it up, thanks.

#129 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 20:10:20

Good lawwwddd....

Well...  in Debian at least, "testing" will always point to testing, whereas the codename will point to testing while the distribution is testing, but to stable once it goes stable.

So when I said "testing" I mean just that and used the word "equivalent" with reference to ASCII being equivalent to Debian testing, not being based upon it (in terms of same versions, etc).

So it would seem that Devuan will effectively still be a "derivative" rather than a fork for the next release.  It doesn't surprise me, as I've always thought that completely forking an entire distribution, especially one the size of Debian, was gonig to be a momentous task.

#130 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 16:19:39

Which is why I said equivalent to "testing" rather than any release code name.

Is ASCII based directly on the stretch repositories then...?  I thought that after jessie, Devuan would go it a lone and develop a true fork?

#131 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 14:18:58

My last post was in response to this:

keos wrote:

it is not free ... i think that i'm going to uninstall devuan ...

Linux Mint is also "not free" (using your terminology), the firmware is already installed.

keos wrote:

In Linuxmint i have not any problem with VLC.

Then just use Linux Mint, until you're ready to tackle this problem again (if at all)?  Debian or Devuan are not the same as the Debian derivatives like Ubuntu and Mint which are completely pre-configured as install-able live systems and ready to run "out of the box".

You're also running "ASCII" which is the equivalent to the Debian testing branch.  This is not a finished, stable release.

#132 Re: DIY » The hunt for a good browser 2017 edition » 2017-11-03 08:30:33

Not sure about HTML5 video with regard to Midori.

You may be stuck with Chromium and it's forks, if that's a requirement.  It tends to perform better than both firefox and seamonkey on lower end systems regardless.

#133 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 21:13:09

When it comes to device firmware, "non-free" is often unavoidable.  It's likely that many of the devices in your computer are pre-loaded with proprietary firmware (such as the system BIOS or EFI/UEFI).  The only difference between this firmware and the firmware you install from the repositories is that the former is already flashed to the device, the latter is loaded from userspace.

Yes it's "non free" code, but but it's not executable by your OS, it runs on the device itself.

You already had a closed source realtek firmware installed and simply added the radeon firmware needed for your hardware to fucntion.  The alternative is to buy different hardware, not change OS.

#134 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 16:19:05

Nothing wrong there.  Your X.org and video driver setup seems ok to the best of my knowledge.

If running VLC from a terminal emulator doesn't show up anything when the problem occurs, then I'm pretty much out of ideas on that one.

See if another media player such as one which uses mplayer as a back end has the same issue.

#135 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 15:50:13

Any warnings or errors in your Xorg log file? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)

Also have a look at ~/.xsession-errors

And finally, run VLC from a terminal emulator and see if it spits any errors when it happens...

#136 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 15:13:58

All looking good there.  Looks like it's all sorted?  You would have had horrible performance before due to software rendering being used.

#137 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 15:00:30

Looks like the firmware is now installed.  Reboot and then check your dmesg again to see if that same error appears.

#138 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 12:41:27

You need to install the radeon device firmware from the non-free repository (already enabled in your sources by the looks of it, as realtek device firmware is being loaded).

[    7.890449] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[    8.194334] EDAC MC: Ver: 3.0.0
[    8.242484] CRAT table not found
[    8.242487] Finished initializing topology ret=0
[    8.242507] kfd kfd: Initialized module
[    8.251429] [drm:radeon_pci_probe [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-amd-graphics.

#139 Re: DIY » Is there any reason to use the gstreamer-gnomevfs package? » 2017-11-02 08:46:00

By the way, the answer to your question in this locked thread: http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=5934#p5934

Is in my last post.  Though I suggest just installing aptitude.

#140 Re: Other Issues » (SOLVED) Systemd Library in Ascii » 2017-11-01 16:56:05

It looks like qemu was compiled with pulseaudio support, that's going to be the case with most Debian packages.

All very simple in your case however - getting rid of qemu would enable you to remove libpulse0 and libsystemd0.

However, as you've guessed, those libs don't do a whole lot on their own.  If you have pulseaudio installed however, libpulse0 is of some use. libsystemd0 however is cruft without systemd installed.

#142 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-01 16:04:55

A dmesg and/or listing of PCI devices might be more useful.  Using code tags to keep it readable is a good idea.

#143 Re: Other Issues » (SOLVED) Systemd Library in Ascii » 2017-11-01 16:01:01

How about checking why it's installed?

$ aptitude why libsystemd0

#144 Re: Other Issues » (SOLVED) Systemd Library in Ascii » 2017-11-01 08:25:37

If you've found it installed, that would suggest that it is in fact installed.

#145 Re: DIY » Simple Yad picture viewer » 2017-10-31 21:36:30

Works here as described.  You're right that the man page gives options for pictures, but the --picture option itself is omitted.  You could drop the author a mail.

#146 Re: Installation » [Solved] How to install the new version of Firefox on Devuan? » 2017-10-31 21:22:39

It's quite normal for a deb file to be packaged with docs such as AUTHORS, BUGS, NEWS, README, TODO, changelog, copyright.  Doubtless there are countless more examples.  A static library (.so) by comparsion may be tiny compared to it's documentation.

The only way around this is to repackage, or base your system off something other than Debian.  Deleting files externally to the package manager means they come back when packages are upgraded or reinstalled.  Same with any unwanted locales installed in /usr/share/locale/

Contrary to popular belief, Debian (and by inheritence Devuan) just isn't a light system.  It's a general purpose distribution.

#147 Re: DIY » Is there any reason to use the gstreamer-gnomevfs package? » 2017-10-31 20:51:48

gnomeVFS is not GVfs.  To cut a long story short this is legacy ghome 2.x stuff, you don't need it, but not installing gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs will free up 599kB...

It depends on some gconf packages, those will be much larger, but it's likely other packages depend on them as well.

What will help you is a reverse depends lookup, e.g.

$ apt-cache --installed rdepends gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs

Or

$ aptitude why gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs

This will tell you why a certain package is installed.

Also I assume you've disabled recommends and suggests in your apt configuration to cut down on crap?

#149 Re: Installation » [Solved] How to install the new version of Firefox on Devuan? » 2017-10-31 20:39:00

Yes, that's what I was referring to.  Bleachbit is a "cleaner", so it deals with dotfiles, etc, not the package management system.

As far as I know it's not going to remove unwanted deb packages for you and resolve dependencies.  Thus I'm not entirely sure how it will make Midori browser, "lighter".

To remove unwanted deb packages there is an autoremove option to apt or apt-get, another package manager front end, aptitude, is also good at cleaning up unwanted cruft.  It might help you "slim down" your installations.

#150 Re: Installation » [Solved] How to install the new version of Firefox on Devuan? » 2017-10-31 09:02:52

greenjeans wrote:

Doesn't seem quite as nice as last time I tried it, but it's certainly lightweight, the depends had some heft but not bad (and some of that will go bye-bye as soon as I run bleachbit).

Getting a bit offtopic here, but bleachbit is a "cleaner" application.  It does not and should not be touching any installed binary packages, and it certainly should not be run as root regardless.  This pretty much only leaves your /home/your_user directory.

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