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#1451 Re: Off-topic » I can help Devuan project? » 2018-06-28 05:50:51

That sounds good. I'll prepare the "translation pack" and email this to your registration email. It involves some 1500 phrases and 17 email templates. Though half or so are for the admin pages, which don't necessarily need translations.

#1452 Re: Off-topic » I can help Devuan project? » 2018-06-26 10:20:50

@Eaglet: I you like, you would also be welcome to add the русский flavour to this forum.

#1454 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-20 00:10:35

Gems of knowledge into my sea of ignorance .. I hope the OP gets to mark this as solved soon.

#1455 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-19 22:57:08

Det låter jättebra. Tack. Låt mig samla ihop underlaget, så skickar jag det till din regestreringsadress (om en dag eller två).

#1456 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-19 11:46:43

There are probably many holes in my understanding, but isn't it so, that the server-vpn program already interacts on eth0 for handling its clients; so it's response packets are already outbound on eth0 without any routing?

#1457 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-18 22:56:46

Thanks smile A full day without takers!
In my mind, "blame" is not central to Anarchism; there are other belief systems for that.
But I agree it's a good point: what would Kropotkin say?

#1458 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-18 22:49:09

mmm ... all 192.168.x.0/24 (ethX) traffic should go out without ado due to the network route.

#1459 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-18 22:02:11

That's a good set of rules for doing no filtering at all, yes smile

If you don't mind, rather dump the output if iptables-save, just to confirm all the tables. Basically, you shouldn't need any iptables rules, except the masquerading of the outbound traffic on tunY. That one is necessary to allow packets with original source from IP 10.8.x.0/24 (i.e., your server-vpn clients) or 192.168.y.0/24 (your wlanX neighbors), as well as allowing packets from 192.168.x.0/24 (your ethX neighbors) to be forwarded and masqueraded through tunY.

#1460 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-18 21:17:51

What would be the best way to check?

Remove the rule

iptables -A FORWARD -j REJECT

to see if it works without it.

Then add it back, preceded by rules that allow forwarding between tunX and tunY.

#1461 Re: Installation » Network booting » 2018-06-18 07:54:25

Right. Some random googling suggests https://volumio.org/forum/vcgencmd-comm … html#p6319 to me, but you might have tried that already?

#1463 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » SSD/HDD keeps spinning after resume from suspend » 2018-06-17 23:17:20

That Ubuntu solution is not right for Devuan.

However they suggest that hdparm -S is ineffective, and maybe that's the first thing to investigate. If it works fine, then the command

# hdparm -S 2 /dev/hda

would make the disk /dev/hda spin down after 10 seconds. Perhaps you can check that to begin with.

If that works, then the resume code path that leads to that (or the similar) command is broken, and we can look at that.
If not, then it's a more difficult problem.

#1464 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-17 22:49:53

If I understand it right, the basic tenet against a published Troll Count is on the line that it's more likely to be (mis-) used by a bunch of dickheads banding together to wield dickheadary against some normal adult member, than that it's used by the normal adult members as (weak) indicator towards the censoring of a dickhead.

Well, perhaps. I'll leave my head where it is for the moment.

#1465 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-17 01:24:03

Just to add some motivation:

My assertion is that when you are trolling, you are trolling whether you think so or not; it's not up to you, as a troll, to judge it right or wrong. Further, I believe some people would be too polite to nominate a troll if they thought the troll would see them doing it. They would rather suffer the trolling, and that would dull any edge of this extension.

The troll list is that little bit different from an ignore list in publishing the count, in the hope that it both stimulates people to evaluate the (perhaps) trolling posts more thoughtfully, and triggers self-criticism for the (somewhat) trolling poster.

#1466 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-17 00:18:45

You got it right. There is no way you can find out who are ignoring you (short of bribing me to tell you, of course).

#1467 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-16 22:27:33

Great! Dutch, or "Netherlands", is a new language for this forum, as is German ("Deutche"), so those tasks will involve the full grunt of translating some 1500 phrases, and 16 email templates.

I used to have a script that made a CSV for the phrases to make it easier But, as that was a couple of laptops ago, it'll take a short while to recall. When I've done so, and prepared the basis, I'll email it to your registration email address.

It reminds me that I'm still sitting still on the Swedish translation sad

#1468 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-16 21:09:56

Perhaps one of you could spell out a way in which this might be abused, or rather I assume, a way in which this function can be used to abuse someone?

Is it that you think, that by X seeing an elevated troll count for Y, they (X) would be more inclined than otherwise to also nominate Y as troll? Or that Y would be unhappy seeing that so many members see them as a troll?

If Y is trolling in the eyes of some/many, then Y is trolling in the eyes of some/many, whether Y thinks so or not.
Without feedback, Y won't learn or change.

#1469 Re: Installation » Wrong /etc/locale.gen after Ascii net-install with additional locale » 2018-06-14 07:04:01

Package locales seems to be the owner of /etc/locale.gen (or at least the man page).

#1470 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 07:01:12

I think you're using the url tag back-to-front; it takes the actual url in the begin tag, and the description between the tags. So if you swap those, it becomes a click-accessible url. As is, one has to copy that url that is seen and paste to follow, rather than clicking it.

#1471 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-12 23:28:11

devuser might be right, though one thing is that you do need to allow forwarding between tunX and tunY.

server-vpn might keep its clients up-to-date with its own gateway, which changes from 192.168.x.1 to be 10.8.y.1. It thus configures its clients' routing to pass 10.8.y.1 traffic through itself, and that traffic would stop at the forwarding block.

#1472 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-12 07:18:13

Yes, forget my nonsense about masquerading on the output chain, and check routing regarding the ethX network. In particular, the server-vpn return traffic must not be routed through the client-vpn.

#1473 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-11 22:35:52

I think, since those are locally generated but with remote sources, you'll also need a MASQUERADE rule on the OUTPUT chain of the nat table. I suppose the set up of the first openvpn (the server) should have dealt with it, but it perhaps worked out to use something else (eth0) as its outbound interface. In fact, maybe a restart of the server, after the outbound openvpn (client) is set up makes this happen?

#1474 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-11 21:18:38

Could it be that the outbound traffic through tunY needs NAT (i.e. a MASQUERADE rule)?

#1475 Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-11 13:44:35

ralph.ronnquist
Replies: 46

Several years ago a new "feature" was implemented on this forum. It sparked a barrage of sometimes charged comments but not one of them predicted the future of this experiment correctly. It was only used a few times, quickly became a non-issue and then was forgotten in time! All that remains is an ignore function which some might find useful.

This forum has now gained a Troll Deterrent Extension, which involves the following:

  • The Display tab of the Profile page now includes an entry field where you can nominate usernames that you figure are trolls.

  • Any post by a troll of yours is replaced, for you, by a blanket notice instead of actual content. You can only see their posts if you withdraw the nomination.

  • In addition, there is a Troll Count in the user information area of all posts. This shows how many members consider the poster to be a troll. This however  is only shown when the count exceeds a threshold.The current threshold is 2, i.e., if 2 or more members figure a poster being a troll, then the poster's Troll Count is shown to everyone, including guests, for all of that member's posts. The Troll Count Display Threshold is an administration option.

At the moment, the Troll Deterrent Extension is in English only.

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