Me either. But I had already seen it posted on irc.

It is a post on twitter from pid_eins

Check out logs for #devuan on our libera irc channel for discussion of the history.

Probably . . . I'm not seeing it in the package list

That being said . . . you might possibly find other systemd files present in Devuan. This post explains why.

Great! Would be very useful for those who are just arriving. All the info is documented *somewhere* but having it in one place would be quite handy!

This is a post-lock addition to hopefully clarify some of the confused assumptions above . . .

Let's start with the first iteration of devuan.org in the current layout that Hellekin and I put together for our first public release of Devuan Jessie 1.0 Beta. Hopefully, it will put the issues brought up above into historical perspective. Have a look here:

http://web.archive.org/web/201606041517 … evuan.org/

At that time I didn't even know what git was! I was entirely concerned with the content, colors and layout of the site. Hellekin dealt with the technical complexities of making it happen. It was quite a partnership! You can see that all the navigation links were dumped on the index page. Also note that dev1fanboy's docs were in a format detached from the website proper and sourced from his git repo. This is the historical reason that remains of dev1fanboy's "wiki" are present in the documentation section. It was not some over-arching structural decision for the www workflow which has ALWAYS been from www BETA to LIVE or MASTER or whatever it was called at the time.

When Hellekin moved on, I took over www and eventually all public-facing web content went through me, even dev1fanboy's and fsmithred's and the docs that rrq and I crafted for the install disk(s). I had a LOT of catching up to do but eventually managed to gain enough git pointy-clicky proficiency to accomplish all the public-facing upgrades to ascii and beowulf documentation as needed.

I also redesigned the site over the years to have a proper nav bar and trimmed content down to the minimal needed. Mostly it consisted of rearranging/compacting/rewriting and eliminating redundancies of information already available. Please do take a tour on web.archive.org to see how the site morphed over the years.

Then I just burned out - partly due to age; partly due to the enormous workload - and Xenguy stepped up to take over www beginning with Chimaera (though I still provided the matching default colors).

I should have thought to write this brief history of www earlier but now that the issue came up, I finally mustered the focus to put things into historical perspective. I do hope that it helps to clarify how we got to where we are.

Any questions? Start a new thread.

I fixed it.  It was missing the final "l" in the html.  Might have been just htm at the time. I fixed aitor's link and it works now. Takes me back almost 10 years when the debate was raging . . .

There were other excellent critiques written at the time. I remember one by Jude Nelson in particular but it all fell on deaf ears. The Debian GR vote put the nail in the coffin of init diversity in Debian. For those of you who weren't here to  live through it, the following analyses are "required reading":

Combatting revisionist history by dasein on the Debian forum
Open letter to the Linux World by Christoper Barry on the LKML.

I think this topic has run its course . . .

I was poking at your typo.

@auanta . . . Have you actually looked at the website? The Explore page in the navbar lists all the documentation included in the website and some links point to resources elsewhere.

There is also a lot of practical documentation on this very forum as well as the DNG mail list.

Try https://refracta.org/documents.html

There is currently a discussion on the DNG mail list and skarnet is in the mix. It is a moderated list. Sign up and your first post will appear when I release it.

On this forum a thread in the Devuan topic would probably suffice,

As to whether there are enough init-knowledgeable users here . . . that remains to be seen. I predict a lot of thrashing . . .