Ha! I almost missed this as I rarely look at this or the music thread because I do so little of either, I don't have much to say . . .

Humans think and rationalize too much. When you look through the wrong end of a telescope things get distorted so it's no surprise we are in the mess we are in . . . and have always been in. It is a mental disease that binds us to suffering. The solution is not "out there" in science or opinion but in looking inward to unravel the fantasy we create out of bare sensory experience.

Enough of this comedy . . .

You missed the punch line that is the root of all such actions . . . the "wanting" is the problem. Everything that stems from that impulse is "tainted". With out that "wanting" no rationalizations are needed.

Then talk about Devuan. It won't be here though . . .

Well, not anymore in this thread.

Please everyone . . . grow up and prove that our species actually can progress beyond infancy.

@steve_v . . . You nailed it . . .

Please Dutch_Master . . . the Russian State is not the Russian free software community.

Perhaps you could add it to the init-system-helpers package via Devuan's git store if the Debian maintainer will not cooperate. I think that's where it should go . . .

Ceres is always fluid and unstable. It never freezes. Please take a look at our release information.

Didn't Hyperbola morph into Parabola. Or was it the other way around? This thought just from a vague memory . . .

@alphalpha . . . that is a good question and thank you for asking it.

The fact that this thread still exists is not a vote of approval. Enforcement would just create more hostility. Instead, the OP was given an opportunity to learn to self-regulate and participate constructively in civil society . . . and failed. Seems he has made his choice. He has not visited here since his meltdown 2 days ago . . .

No . . . the technology is questionable. Always has been. The road it is going down is not progress.  It is human hubris. I have been watching carefully since the mid-90s and can find nothing there that I would knowingly touch . . .

That is a matter of perspective.

There can be no "offense" when none is taken . . . Internal reaction to external stimuli is a CHOICE. Humans are notoriously poor at understanding this which is why our species is hopelessly mired in ignorance and conflict.

Yes, the Devuan "pond" has the most amazing fish swimming in it. On this we can agree.

But even if the internet had not taken the predictable turn that it has, there would be similar problems to distress us. Again, it is a CHOICE how to respond to them. Distress is not useful. Action is. Those of us here have made a choice and doing a pretty good job of it . . .