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My pleasure ceesians! Thanks also to TAP who posted that handy mirror list link above, appreciate ya buddy!
That repo was actually really fast for me compared to deb.devuan.org.
Thought i'd add a quickie tip:
Installed a little earlier, but when opening it gave me a message explaining keyring wasn't unlocked, and wanted a password, had to hit "cancel" to clear it and it popped up again, I canceled again and browser finally opened. But it would do this every time I opened it, found a simple solution on another forum.
Open your menu editor (I use mozo on MATE) and find your properties tab, then edit the opening command with this appended to it:
a space, then
--password-store=basicThat turned it off for me, current Daedalus.
Hi Altoid, nope, no connman, network manager.
I miss wicd. :-(
Got it to work today using different mirror:
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-updates main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-security main I would mark it solved, but still doesn't answer my original question.
Okay, this worked:
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-updates main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-security main Same issue here. Worked a couple weeks ago but no joy last two days. Last time I had this issue I used the dev.beard.ly addresses mentioned above by TAP and they worked, then last update they wouldn't work so switched back to default and it worked. Guess i'll try the beardly thing again.
Tried, nope.
South Dakota here, Alliance fiber.
Well it's not a joke per se, but a while back I replaced the term "red-flag" in my conversations, and the wife followed suit. We all know what "red-flag" means, it's a warning, a sign something bad is likely to happen and to steer clear of it.
We now use the term "red-hat" to indicate some utterly repulsive crap is about to go down.
I.E. "Well that used-car salesman called and said he had a heckuva deal for us on a truck, but there were just too many red-hats about the whole thing, he seems pretty skeevy and i'm pretty sure he's trying to dump a lemon on us"
I only update once in every couple months, but seems like every time I do, I have to re-write sources.list, time before last I had to use some weird mirror, this last time (a couple weeks ago) I had to change again or it wouldn't work, so I went back to the recommended list from https://www.devuan.org/os/packages.html which was:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security mainAnd that worked fine. But today it won't connect for some reason, so had to abort.
Having some intermittent issues with the repo? No biggie i'm patient but was just curious as this seems to happen somewhat frequently for me.
Yikes Golinux, above my pay grade too, lol. I was thinking as simple as possible, not the whole nine yards. Wish I could help more but i'd need a year just to figure what the heck all is going on.
I still think there's some merit in my idea though, quickie isos for casual testing.
I've about made up my mind, to do a basic Devuan Mate hybrid-iso for current stable, keep it updated, might be nice for folks who prefer Mate and are distro-hopping looking for a good one to install. No hacking or excessive Bleachblitting....mostly. ;-)
Oh i'm not ready for a Vuu-do Excalibur, still haven't done one for Daedalus.
What I was thinking, is roll one up like the .iso Devuan has (or did last time I checked last year) that uses Refracta installer instead of going through the installer iso hoopla, quick and easy.
A hybrid-iso you can run live for testing purposes without having to commit to an install, but with the ability to do so if wished. Seems like if it's all for testing purposes that might be better and quicker for people doing the testing?
If I was testing, that's what i'd be willing to do it on, quick live boot, run it through it's paces. As opposed to an hour long ordeal to get it installed which is what I had to do (multiple times mind you) to install my current Devuan, since I wanted MATE and the only hybrid-iso offered was the one with XFCE.
It would be easy to kick out new ones for testing, as I would basically be keeping a rolling current release on the machine, updating when enough new packages rolled in or once a week or whatever. Then squashing a new hybrid and uploading.
Bonus is my new internet has the same fast upload speeds as it does download, so no long time to wait on uploads.
Anyhoo, just a thought, let me know if it would be useful.
So, I only know one way to make .iso's, and that's using Refracta-snapshot and Refracta-installer (or similar programs in the past). I am NOT a real developer by any stretch of the imagination.
Basically while working on Vuu-do, I rolled up at least one or two per night for testing, implementing new changes I had made plus whatever updates had been pushed through since I last rolled one, using Synaptic. Then uploaded new versions to Sourceforge.
If this process would be okay, and somebody can get me an .iso of Excalibur that's current that contains (or can be added at least) the Refracta programs I mentioned, i'd be happy to clear a partition, install, and roll up new editions and upload wherever you need them. I won't say nightly but I can do better than just once a week, I get a lot of satisfaction watching my machine "squashing", lol.
Oh it's not dead, just not updated. I actually started work on a new one using Daedalus last winter, but spring came and I had a mountain of stuff to do. It's a lot of work, the original took me at least 6 months or better and that's me working on it for a few hours every night.
Lot's of new issues though that were not present in the first version of Devuan. And kernel bloat and ram usage really wore me out, so I put it on hold, will re-visit when winter hits.
Was actually thinking of doing a MATE version of Devuan first, something like the default version of Devuan, the one that uses Refracta-installer and just installs XFCE as opposed to the ordeal of doing a standard net-install with the Debian installer. As just kind of a community service.
But also possibly doing a Vuu-Do version with MATE, with original artwork and theme and icons etc. Chopped like a madman of course without the niceties you find in an actual distro as per the Vuu-Do way, lol.
I still use Vuu-do quite a bit, 2 of 3 partitions on my laptop are still Vuu-Do, I just use an imageapp to have a newer browser, everything still works on the original just fine, better than fine in fact, it is faster in every way, like lightning quick compared to my Daedalus MATE install. And uses a hella lot less ram, which is good for my old machine.
ETA: I really should run a new copy of Vuu-do, not that anybody is still downloading it, but I found and fixed a couple bugs with some scripts that I wrote, and now my OCD is yelling at me because the ones with the flaws are still up there last I checked, lol.
Oh I stop in fairly frequently these days now that I don't have to walk a mile for internet, lol. I just don't post much because i'm not the ninja so many on here are, so I don't have that much to contribute, plus my New Year's resolution this year was to read more and post less!
ETA: And because my Devuan installs are so boringly stable, so I never really have an issue to post unless i'm doing something hacky that I probably shouldn't be doing, hah!
Beautiful story! I believe all creatures have some level of sentience, even plants, especially ancient trees.
Spiders are a favorite, we have a a bunch living in the house, they take care of gnats and other things like dust mites and such, occasionally one falls into the sink or tub and can't get out, and now they know when I reach my hand out to jump on it because i'm just giving them a lift back to their web.
All the animals and trees in my little environment know me and trust me, wild critters come up and talk to me all the time, usually wanting a treat, but sometimes just to say good morning. Wife calls me Dr. Doolittle at times, lol.
Thanks for sharing Golinux!
which is the best way to install the new kernel, at installation time or after the first install?
what are the steps to install the most recent long-term kernel 6.6.47? (or, should i try the stable version 6.10.6 instead?)
To answer these questions: Firstly know that i'm not one of the ninjas here, just a GUI-guy who like to tinker and only uses a terminal when I have to, so take it for what it's worth.
Installing new kernel, much easier to do post-initial install of system.
I do everything except 3rd party stuff through Synaptic. So install new kernel and then close Synaptic. Re-boot, at the grub screen choose advanced options boot, hit the edit button, edit the file where it says what kernel to use to boot to your new one, then boot.
You should be using your new kernel now, to verify open a terminal and
uname -rto check.
Now put system through it's paces to verify everything works. If it does, you can now delete the old kernel through Synaptic, do so. Then open a terminal, su-to-root then run
update-grub.
That's how I do it anyway, always works, just updated to new kernel a week ago in fact.
Lol, I just remember most of Hamlet from playing him in the high school play a million years ago, Macbeth too, mostly I just like reading Shakespeare because I have never seen somebody other than a German orchestra conductor that could as thoroughly and creatively insult somebody. ;-)
I'm more into non-fiction as an adult, so much to learn out there and so little time. Hadn't heard of Jitsi until you mentioned it, will check it out and maybe make it happen, I vastly prefer to talk to folks in person, kind of an old curmudgeon that way, but i'll try.
FYI i'm back in Central time, we bought a house in South Dakota late last year, it's a fixer-upper so that's why I haven't been online as much.
When winter comes again though i'll need a project to keep me busy, thinking about doing a MATE-specific Devuan spin using Refracta-tools to build and for the installer.
Anyhoo, sorry for getting off-topic, for joke thread I have some memes/jokes I made very much inspired by AP's goofy dad jokes and LOTR, lol, just gonna post the links up here as i'm not sure posting actual meme images is okay.
https://i.imgflip.com/8urixx.jpg
"And if I have a craving for the most excellent word play, I'll read some Shakespeare not this thread . . . wink"
Interesting...if I remember my Shakespeare..."get thee hence....something something...." ;-)
I'm sad that we'll probably never meet, it would be an interesting conversation my dear friend. Nice glass of tea and philosophy/theology... I feel like we'd both come away from it with some enlightenment, which is always a good thing.
Thanks for that, checked mine and it's 5.4.1 as well.
@The-Amnesiac-Philosopher , Thanks ol' buddy, your solution worked for me! Finally was able to update after changing sources.list. Would like to see why this whole issue occurred in the first place.
One thing I noted, it did a kernel update for me, but did not automatically swap to the new kernel on re-boot, went to delete the old kernel after re-boot, got warnings from Synaptic which I foolishly ignored, then wouldn't boot back up, had to go into advanced options on the grub screen and manually enter new kernel, first time i've ever had to do this, wonder why?
Got this same problem as of two days ago. Nothing else has changed in my system, will check on that resolv.conf.
@kapqa, I use an appimage of Firefox ESR on my devuan1 installs, works pretty well with only an occasional glitch.
Haven't checked phone, will do so. Only found one other reference to this behavior (MATE-specific) and it went unanswered: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=395817
And one in Ubuntu using Thunar, also unanswered: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … ug/1779571
I tried gphotofs which had worked for me in the past, but still no luck.
Wonder if there's some setting in one of the polkits that changed that's doing this?
ETA: Okay, changed my search term on this issue from "camera" to "phone" and got multiple hits, apparently a lot of people are having this problem since just the last two years or so. And all these hits are coming from Mint and Ubuntu mostly, so something upstream from Debian likely changed?
On another note, I get thumbnails for everything in Mate except for when I attach my digital camera via cable, as opposed to just taking out the memory card and using the reader which gives me thumbnails just fine.
Problem is my machine is old and the contacts in the media card reader are declining in quality giving me repeated dropouts as i'm trying to work with the contents.
Cam/cord to machine works fine, but no thumbnails so I can't see the pics i'm working with until I copy them to my pics folder. Tried settings in caja with no joy, wondering if i need some gphoto package I don't have?
^^^^Uggh, compact menu for the win on MATE. ![]()
Interesting.
Way back in the day I absolutely despised Nouveau, it was buggy as it could be and always caused me headaches, so I used the generic driver unless I needed to run a dual-screen setup on a desktop system, and in that case I would use the Nvidia driver out of necessity...man, it really did require patience.
But the last time I tried Nouveau it surprised me greatly as it worked pretty well with none of the old bugginess, really has come a long way.
There's an old XKCD cartoon that explains the old days of fighting with video drivers.
