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#776 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to remove elogind postinstall in Xfce4 in order to use consolekit2 » 2022-02-11 14:39:19

For user to mount removable media, you could install pmount and either spacefm or pcmanfm. You may need to install without Recommends.

apt --no-install-recommends install <package>

If you want to avoid installing elogind by mistake, you could pin it by creating a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ with the following:

Package: *elogind
Pin: version *
Pin-Priority: -1

#777 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to remove elogind postinstall in Xfce4 in order to use consolekit2 » 2022-02-11 14:21:51

I'm not aware of any guide for doing this, so I tried it. To be safe, I dropped to console first and stopped the slim display manager.

### ctrl-alt-F2 and then log in as root.
/etc/init.d/slim stop
apt remove elogind libpam-elogind consolekit+ libpam-ck-connector+

That replaced elogind with consolekit and removed a bunch of other stuff, including gvfs, udisks2 and network-manager. I replaced network-manager with connman and set connman-ui-gtk to start with the desktop.

apt install connman connman-ui connman-gtk

The user can no longer shutdown or reboot from the desktop. I assume that mounting of removable media is also gone. I don't know if there are fixes for this.

An alternative approach would be to do a minimal install, switch to consolekit first, and then start adding things.

#778 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Listening to local playback with Audacity » 2022-02-06 18:50:27

Micronaut wrote:

Well, it looks like there has been a recent change in some underlying packages
<snip>

Audacity 3.0.2 from PPA

How often do the Debian/Devuan repository maintainers update things?

Not often enough to have anything that new. Sid/Ceres is still on 2.4.2, but this bug report for the beowulf version might be relevant. (Same problem.)

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=913732

In Chimaera, I see pulse as a choice for output and input devices in audacity. It does record sound from a youtube video played in the browser, but I think it's recording through the built-in mic. That's no good. If you want to save audio from the browser, you might be better off using something like video download helper (ff plugin) or youtube-dl and then strip the audio with audacity.

#779 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Listening to local playback with Audacity » 2022-02-06 18:07:08

Press the record button in audacity. Look for PortAudio in qjackctl.

Or poke around in Audacious and you will find exactly what you want. You can save as mp3, ogg, wav or flac.

#780 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Listening to local playback with Audacity » 2022-02-06 11:39:17

I haven't needed to purge pulseaudio, but it can't hurt to do that.

It's also possible to record a stream in audacious using just alsa. In the audio settings, check the box for recording a stream, and a red button will appear on the toolbar.

Search for 'qjackctl tutorial' will bring up a bunch of hits. The one for ubuntu is a good basic one, and the one at the arch wiki will have all the gory details.

#781 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Listening to local playback with Audacity » 2022-02-05 22:29:29

https://jackaudio.org/

JACK Audio Connection Kit (or JACK) is a professional sound server API and pair of daemon implementations to provide real-time, low-latency connections for both audio and MIDI data between applications.

apt remove pulseaudio pavucontrol
apt install qjackctl

It is possible to use pulseaudio and jack together, but I've never done that.

#782 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Listening to local playback with Audacity » 2022-02-05 13:45:15

You can record a stream through vlc or audacious to audacity using JACK. You don't need pulseaudio. I use qjackctl for an easy gui interface to jackd.

#783 Re: Off-topic » syntax highlighting » 2022-02-05 13:24:35

There are alternate color schemes for geany. Check out the screenshots directory to see examples.
https://github.com/codebrainz/geany-themes

I used the default highlighting for geany for years, but it's become harder to read the orange on white, so I switched to gedit colors, and sometimes I switch to a dark background and use himbere.

https://github.com/codebrainz/geany-the … /gedit.png
https://github.com/codebrainz/geany-the … mbeere.png

#784 Re: Installation » Problems with desktop-live iso. » 2022-02-04 20:45:03

You could drop to console and use the cli version of the installer.

# Press ctrl-alt-F2 to get to a command prompt.
sudo refractainstaller

Note that refractainstaller does not do any automatic partitioning. If you boot in uefi mode and you don't have an efi partition, the installer will complain.

#785 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Wallpaper browse from ANY folder? » 2022-02-04 10:47:44

selecting a folder of images is impossible in the dialog, all the filenames
remain ghosted and clicking them does nothing

You cannot select files in that window. You can only select folders.
Select the folder, and then the thumbnails will be displayed.

Folder, Other, highlight the folder you want, Open.

#786 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » authorization problems possibly due to frankendevuan (attn: fsmithred) » 2022-01-23 14:11:04

I think you might have an easier time if you were working on an installed system. Install to a partition on hard drive or on a usb stick or in a virtual hard disk, and then you will be able to reboot during the upgrade.

#787 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] screen is not locked when suspend is activated by closing the lid » 2022-01-22 22:18:41

I don't know if this is helpful:

$ dpkg -l |grep input
ii  libinput-bin                         1.16.4-3                               amd64        input device management and event handling library - udev quirks
ii  libinput10:amd64                     1.16.4-3                               amd64        input device management and event handling library - shared library
ii  libxcb-xinput0:amd64                 1.14-3                                 amd64        X C Binding, xinput extension
ii  xinput                               1.6.3-1                                amd64        Runtime configuration and test of XInput devices
ii  xserver-xorg-input-libinput          0.30.0-1                               amd64        X.Org X server -- libinput input driver

$ dpkg -l |grep evdev
ii  libevdev2:amd64                      1.11.0+dfsg-1                          amd64        wrapper library for evdev devices

#788 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] screen is not locked when suspend is activated by closing the lid » 2022-01-22 16:21:40

xscreensaver is installed and set to run in the desktop's startup applications. It is disabled in the Screensaver settings.
xfce4-power-manager is set to suspend on lid closing. It is not set to lock the screen.

Closing lid puts computer into suspend and locks the screen. When I raise the lid, I get the xscreensaver login screen.

This is in Chimaera.

#790 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] screen is not locked when suspend is activated by closing the lid » 2022-01-22 15:57:10

I have xscreensaver disabled and let xfce4-power-manager handle suspend and lock when lid is closed.

#791 Re: Other Issues » Why isn't my beowulf being upgraded to 3.1? » 2022-01-21 16:37:52

The point-release numbers refer to the isos. If you update/upgrade your system, your system is much newer than 3.1.

#793 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » authorization problems possibly due to frankendevuan (attn: fsmithred) » 2022-01-21 15:40:32

Oops! Try it without the 'ck' at the end.

dpkg -l | egrep "consolekit|logind|policykit|polkit|libpam"

#794 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » authorization problems possibly due to frankendevuan (attn: fsmithred) » 2022-01-21 15:11:04

bitcrashr wrote:

<snip>
...installed, but these don't count toward that, correct?

And why might my initrd.img_pre-snapshot be missing?

Correct. No live-tools package in your system.

Check the error log to see what happened with initramfs. If you run the cli version of refractasnapshot, add '-d' option to get a move verbose log. If you start the gui version from the menu, it's already in debug mode. (/var/log/refractasnapshot.log)

Check this, too:

dpkg -l | egrep "consolekit|logind|policykit|polkit|libpam|ck"

#795 Re: Other Issues » Chimaera sources.list » 2022-01-21 14:47:31

Please use deb.devuan.org so that the load gets spread out over all the mirrors in the round-robin.

#796 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » authorization problems possibly due to frankendevuan (attn: fsmithred) » 2022-01-21 14:44:51

hevidevi wrote:

the way i see it is i dont believe the update-initramfs will update/ugrade a live read only root file system, so you will be stuck with an initrd that is always going to use ascii authorization tools. I could be wrong here but that is my take on it unless refracta-snapshot can bypass this hurdle?

im going to test this myself with a live iso upgrade, im intrigued by it now.

If the live-tools package is installed, update-initramfs gets diverted. You could run 'update-initramfs.orig.initramfs-tools...' instead. I prefer to remove or not install live-tools. I could never figure out what it was good for.

su was moved from the shadow source package to util-linux, and the behavior changed at that time. To revert to the old behavior (from man su):

echo 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes' >> /etc/default/su

To give user permission to run ping in chimaera:

dpkg-reconfigure iputils-ping

#797 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » authorization problems possibly due to frankendevuan (attn: fsmithred) » 2022-01-20 16:46:42

bitcrashr wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

If this is running in ram from an iso, then it's a read-only system that can't be upgraded.

Here you used the word "upgrade" and not "update". Are you saying that for a live system, packages can be updated - as I said I've successfully done - but a full system upgrade is impossible? This is a known thing? If so, how not?

I'm saying you can't upgrade the packages in a live-iso because it's read-only. But you found the way around that. You can upgrade packages in the running system if you have enough ram, and you can also make a snapshot directly from a running live system.

I've never tried upgrading a live system to the next release. I did try upgrading ascii to chimaera installed on a virtual hard disk, and it was very ugly. Problems were mostly around loss of python2 and loss of network connection when wicd went away. I don't think I even tried the desktop after the upgrade.

To test root's path, as root:

echo $PATH

and see if it contains /sbin and /usr/sbin.

#798 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » authorization problems possibly due to frankendevuan (attn: fsmithred) » 2022-01-20 11:31:14

I'm not good with all that 'kit stuff, and I haven't had good luck with consolekit. I use elogind instead. But before messing with any of that, there's a more important question.

Possibly further complicating matters is that this is an install *always* run from ram. It is only installed on disc/iso. It has never existed as a hdd install.

If this is running in ram from an iso, then it's a read-only system that can't be upgraded. If all the upgrades are happening in a persistent volume, then I think it's way past time to make a new iso. Please explain your setup a little more, because I don't really understand what you did. Thanks.

#799 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Broken pkexec in Chimaera » 2022-01-13 12:02:41

Probably these two:
policykit-1-gnome
libpam-elogind

#800 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Wallpaper browse from ANY folder? » 2022-01-13 11:59:41

But if I point the Desktop-Settings dialog to that directory (it's on another drive BTW) all the *.png files are ghosted and unselectable (no permissions issues that I can see)

That's where you select the directory and then the thumbnails appear and you can select one.

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