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#726 Re: Installation » KDE Desktop » 2023-12-28 21:43:58
one question. which init has the xfce iso live version?
Same as the installer isos sysvinit.
and is there also a kde iso live version?
No. But you can download and add KDE after installation.
#727 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-12-28 17:10:08
Hahaha! Thanks for the stats!! Just shows how accurate our perceptions are . . . Carry on with making us smile!
#728 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-12-28 15:33:19
What's with all the wife jokes . . . ? How about some husband jokes for balance?
#729 Re: Installation » Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed » 2023-12-28 15:30:43
I do not think libsystemd0 is harmful
Yes, it is just an annoyance but removing it would be wasted effort for no benefit. That's why it may still present in Devuan.
but I seem to be unable to have it, as holding it when installed would not allow installing these packages (well, dummy-elogind allowed some of them, but not all).
Unless something has changed, there is no need to have libsystemd0 present in Devuan.
#730 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2023-12-28 03:09:10
There are extensive discussions on the DNG mail list. The takeaway (if I understand it correctly) is that unless we have a huge influx of devs to fork the necessary packages, usrmerge will be unavoidable. Read and draw your own conclusions.
#731 Re: Devuan » Wifi setup in devuan » 2023-12-28 03:01:04
#732 Re: Installation » Bookworm -> Daedalus migration nscd network-manager failed » 2023-12-28 02:56:34
This this forum post titled Why are systemd files present in Devuan? will help you understand that those files that are bothering you are harmless and necessary. Note that I posted that statement but did not write it. Take care . . .
#733 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] transmission-gkt ( release version) » 2023-12-27 18:05:35
@stopAi . . . tread carefully. That was uncalled for.
#734 Re: Installation » KDE Desktop » 2023-12-25 16:18:45
From https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan :
desktop-live: Explore the default Xfce desktop before installing. Then install easily and quickly from the live session using the refractainstaller. Firmware is installed but can easily be removed.
#735 Re: Devuan » Malicious Programs, and Malicious People On Devuan » 2023-12-24 21:02:14
AI will destroy humanity and we are doomed, rest in piss
No! Don't blame AI!! It is stupid humans who always have and always will find creative ways to destroy even their own species.
#736 Re: Other Issues » Security updates for forked packages? (e.g. xorg-server) » 2023-12-23 20:48:07
It looks like xorg-server comes directly from Debian so you shouldn't have to do anything special if you sources.list is in order.
#737 Re: Installation » KDE Desktop » 2023-12-23 20:37:40
Welcome to Devuan. Please refer to the Install Guide which includes screenshots of the installer options. #17 lists the options available for DE or WM.
#738 Re: Installation » linux-image-6.1.0-16-amd64 » 2023-12-23 20:33:42
Perhaps they are wanting to see if anyone will notice on the way to deprecating these functions entirely? Maybe you could file a bug with the kernel folks . . .
#739 Re: Off-topic » Xfinity Data Breach » 2023-12-22 22:20:48
Has anybody done this before? And I mean done it to the point that's actually usable for day-to-day use, not just a proof-of-concept "see I can do it" deal.
Yes . . . this Devuan derivative. It has been around for many years. May not work on you device though . . .
#740 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » trying to keep my 100yr-old father computing for another year » 2023-12-22 15:44:55
Note that to get to Daedalus from Beowulf you have to go through Chimaera first and that might be a good place to hang for a year or two . . .
#741 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-19 18:38:03
@greenjeans . . . It's looking like there won't be any more Devuan custom themes for you to bitch about . . . so you can do a happy dance . . . 
#742 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-18 19:12:02
Sigh . . . that wasn't the point either . . .
#743 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-18 17:31:50
@quickfur . . . That wasn't the point. The point was that some of the packages in that list are not connected to Devuan's "magic" to work around systemd.
#744 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Crowz 5.0 Daedalus amd64 release » 2023-12-17 20:35:28
If it is all possible, isolate the other drive by disconnecting it physically for a good measure.
I have done this more than once. It 'just works' to have only one drive available for the install. 
You can also use uuid magic to sort it . . .
#745 Re: Off-topic » I'm Back » 2023-12-16 17:10:38
I have never installed pulseaudio. Always used apulse and alsa. There were some audio issues with jitsi early on. And folks still have intermittent issues. A lot depends on your hardware. KISS works best.
#746 Re: DIY » Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment » 2023-12-16 16:09:04
This is a welcome project. I did use Mate a long time ago but at some point wandered off to Xfce. If I were more adventurous, I'd give it a spin. But in time Xfce might just provide enough 'incentive' to push me back to Mate! Do keep us posted . . .
#747 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-16 01:54:04
These packages in DelTomix's list above have been forked not for technical reasons relating to Debian's systemd 'lock-in' but to customize the iconic Devuan desktop themes. There may also be other packages not tied to systemd:
Package: clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-deepsea-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-lightpurpy-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-sapphire-theme
#748 Re: Other Issues » Security updates » 2023-12-16 01:29:37
Amprolla is the package that works the magic of integrating Debian repos with Devuan. I posted this link in the other thread but guess you missed it:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/amprolla3
Here is a summary of amprolla from the Devuan Conference.
#749 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-15 02:24:50
Now THERE'S an answer. Thanks DelTomix! 
#750 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-14 22:34:58
Welcome to Devuan, quickfir . . .
You can start by having a look at these links:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … aintainers
https://git.devuan.org/explore/repos?ta … e&q=devuan
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