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#626 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-16 01:54:04
These packages in DelTomix's list above have been forked not for technical reasons relating to Debian's systemd 'lock-in' but to customize the iconic Devuan desktop themes. There may also be other packages not tied to systemd:
Package: clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-deepsea-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-lightpurpy-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-sapphire-theme
#627 Re: Other Issues » Security updates » 2023-12-16 01:29:37
Amprolla is the package that works the magic of integrating Debian repos with Devuan. I posted this link in the other thread but guess you missed it:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/amprolla3
Here is a summary of amprolla from the Devuan Conference.
#628 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-15 02:24:50
Now THERE'S an answer. Thanks DelTomix! 
#629 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-14 22:34:58
Welcome to Devuan, quickfir . . .
You can start by having a look at these links:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … aintainers
https://git.devuan.org/explore/repos?ta … e&q=devuan
#630 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Claws-mail themes after upgrade to Daedalus » 2023-12-14 16:47:19
You might want to check if the other Devuan themes misbehave in a similar way. I only played with the colors in the theme(s) except for a few times that I needed help from the XFCE folks. Oh and yes . . . the background for all the themes has been a light version of the dominant color.
#631 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Claws-mail themes after upgrade to Daedalus » 2023-12-14 15:57:31
@Geoff 42 . . . Most of the Daedalus theming was done 2 years ago and only tested on xfce and my setup which is chimaera. I have no idea how it interacts with claws. Over the years, csd and gtk3 have raised havoc with the clearlooks-phenix theme. Since I am now out of the theming business after almost 10 years, someone will either have to step up to take on that task or users will have to live with what Debian provides and/or the old Devuan themes which will still be available in the repos and on Devuan's git store.
#632 Re: Off-topic » Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle! » 2023-12-12 19:07:22
This is the KDE5 project, it is “heavier” than the Trinity I use. If I just install it, it will pull a bunch of Qt5 libraries with it
Falkon piqued my interest but as soon as I found out it was KDE that was it. I actually installed KDE once in its early days. It didn't last long for the reasons mentioned above and that everything was so 'twitchy' and I would be spending too much time turning off all that ADD-inducing garbage . . .
#633 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » A lightweight irc client??? » 2023-12-12 02:02:14
I started using xchat with jessie now it's hexchat in chimaera. That's the default in Xfce . . . It is text based. No html. The on line version can be found at https://libera.chat/ but then you won't have logs locally. parazyd had to nursemaid me through the setup . . . I am not an irc nerd so can't help beyond that. Looking forward to seeing you there! You can share your humor in the #devuan-offtopic channel! Hehehe . . .
PS. Channel logs are here
#634 Re: ARM Builds » testing daedalus on cubox (I4P-300-D) » 2023-12-08 20:22:01
Maybe have a look at: https://www.devuan.org/os/packages
#635 Re: DIY » Crowz-Devuan-Daedalus ROOT Only Ultimate-Linux Hyper Drive Gaming Inst » 2023-12-07 03:49:53
There is no 'you' that can own anything. 'You' is a mental fiction and 'ownership' a delusion . . .
#636 Re: DIY » [SOLVED] Devuan ROOT Only Linux Hyper-Gamer Install » 2023-12-06 18:17:10
@siva . . . OMG! Nice to see you after a loooong time . . .
#637 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-12-06 16:26:59
The-Amnesiac-Philosopher has a very fertile imagination . . . 
(that's as close as I can get to a groaner)
#638 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2023-12-04 21:38:03
No crystal balls here . . .
#639 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2023-12-04 20:01:50
@Ron . . . I am very sorry to tell you that MiyoLinux is not being developed atm.
#640 Re: Devuan » Malicious Programs, and Malicious People On Devuan » 2023-12-04 15:36:00
I figured as much. A month or so ago there were glowing AI reviews on distrowatch with the same vapid style.
#641 Re: Devuan » Malicious Programs, and Malicious People On Devuan » 2023-12-03 23:10:49
Please do not use hard line breaks in your posts . . .
#642 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-03 21:42:46
@The-Amnesiac-Philosopher . . . You are going in the right direction. Keep on truckin'!
#643 Re: Devuan » Malicious Programs, and Malicious People On Devuan » 2023-12-03 21:37:21
So many words to say so little . . . I have read this several times and still have no idea what the message is . . .
The funky formatting on the copy/paste was a nice touch. Is anybody there?
#644 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-12-03 16:25:36
To authoritatively answer UnixMan1230's question above:
<golinux> Question about the "banned packages list". Are they banned because there are insurmountable entanglements and they CAN'T be forked or because they aren't worth the effort.
<golinux> IOW is the metric technical or judgmental . . .
<LeePen> golinux: which banned list are you asking about?
<golinux> LeePen: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
<golinux> I didn't know that there was more than one list . . .
<LeePen> The actual banned list is just 'systemd, systemd-sysv, file-rc, reportbug-ng'
<LeePen> The list that you refer to is produced by amprolla as it recursively excludes anything else that has those as a dependency.
<LeePen> Or as a result of the source being forked already.
<LeePen> The item in [] after the package explains why it is banned.
<LeePen> e.g apticron-systemd.[systemd]
<LeePen> or bsdextrautils.[d1src:util-linux]
<LeePen> Actually reportbug-ng and file-rc have disappeared from Debian, so the basic banned list is just systemd and systemd-sysv.
<LeePen> Everything else follows as a consequence.
<LeePen> So, technical.
<golinux> So a hard dependency on 'systemd, systemd-sysv' is the reason?
<LeePen> Yes, either directly or indirectly.
#645 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-12-03 05:35:53
Don't forget http://deb.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt , so people have a sense of what packages might be worth making compatibility packages/patches for
I have always assumed that it was not possible to fork those banned packages for technical dependency reasons . . .
#646 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-03 03:19:22
That was a painful initiation to the genre . . .
#647 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-03 02:15:00
Oh, my broken eardrums! 5 sec was enough . . .
#648 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-03 01:41:53
@zapper . . . if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. What have you actually DONE lately to turn the tide besides ranting at forces beyond your control?
#649 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-02 07:23:22
Well said, steve_v. It is the reckless human factor in your equation that has been, is and always will be the problem . . .
#650 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-02 05:28:11
If that means "stop doing [x] until we have more data" . . .
There have been NO long-term multi-generational studies of the consequences of consuming genetically altered foods and never will be. So no data to analyze. The populace is the open lab . . .
Some of the articles archived at https://www.saynotogmos.org/scientists_speak.html are from the most respected scientists of the late 20th and early 21st centuries and they wrote quite eloquently why it was a bad idea . . ..
There was one near disaster - https://www.saynotogmos.org/klebsiella.html - that was narrowly avoided at the 11th hour. Would have been a blockbuster movie!
All the history of that transition is on that site which is why I still keep it available even though I stopped updating it over a decade ago.
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