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#576 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-09-24 14:14:27

Here's what Lennart has been working on:

systemd support is now available in WSL

Windows with systemd? A match made in heaven...

EDIT: they claim it's Canonical's fault but we know the truth.

EDIT2: they've used "SystemD". FFS. Are they trying to troll me? mad

#577 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » rts5227 not working » 2022-09-24 11:44:00

That device should be supported natively: https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id … -103c-2216

pierlo wrote:

with osboot instead of the original bios

^ I'm gonna blame that until we know better.

Please post dmesg. Thanks.

EDIT: try the patched driver: https://github.com/astyonax/patched-RTS5227-5229

EDIT2: off-topic here but you do know that your ThinkPad is still stuffed full of proprietary firmware blobs even if it's running osboot, right?

#578 Re: Installation » From Debian (testing) to Devuan » 2022-09-23 23:27:07

Kudos to the developers for forking the init-system-helpers package. Great work. Thank you!

#579 Re: DIY » Convert mp4 to mp3 » 2022-09-22 13:45:12

I really should have spotted this but victorvas over at daemonforums noticed that the output files need the ".mp4" bit stripping before adding the ".mp3" suffix, so:

for X in *.mp4; do ffmpeg -i "$X" "${X%.mp4}".mp3; done

EDIT: moved second close quote to before the dot. Meh.

#581 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Zoom in Devuan » 2022-09-21 14:28:41

Marjorie wrote:

Any suggestions for what could be causing the problem?

Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration for Zoom?

Reference: https://community.zoom.com/t5/Meetings/ … /m-p/58433

EDIT:

@admin: automatic URL tags are broken.

#582 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-09-20 13:48:10

Evenson wrote:

the back end requirements, namely polkit and dbus

Sway doesn't require polkit. The Arch package was recently fixed to allow seatd to be used instead. Unfortunately the Debian sway package is broken in this respect. I would file a bug report but I'm not actually using Debian atm.

#583 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-09-20 13:37:38

Evenson wrote:

what linux/gnu distribution artemis using? im guessing archlinux?

Looks like she's a Parabola dev. Not sure though.

Evenson wrote:

doesn't require obscure methodology to get to a graphical session.

lolwut?

Here's my Wayland session startup script:

exec sway > ~/.sway.log 2>&1

That's it. What is obscure about that? The logging is purely optional, the desktop will start with just sway run from the console (or X session if you want a nested Wayland compositor).

#584 Re: DIY » Convert mp4 to mp3 » 2022-09-19 15:26:46

The second line can work with spaces in the filenames as long as you double-quote the variables, like this:

for X in *.mp4;do ffmpeg -i "$X" "$X".mp3;done

Unless you actually want to remove the spaces anyway.

To remove the spaces with bash use

for f in *\ *.mp3; do mv "$f" "${f// /_}" ; done

The "${f// /_}" bit uses bash's parameter expansion mechanism to search and replace the given pattern.

See https://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/pe … nd_replace for more on this. It won't work with /bin/sh though.

EDIT: oh, hello Keith. Didn't realise it was you :-)

#586 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] external NVMe SSD is piggish » 2022-09-19 09:26:28

nobodyuknow wrote:

The only thing I can think of is that the Linux driver is some kind of generic one, in other words, slow. The driver for the SSD's cousin, Samsung 960 EVO, would be nice, but Samsung probably never released one for Linux. Does this sound right?

The driver in question would be for the USB3 interface itself (xhci). If the drive is detected as a storage device then the driver is fine.

#587 Re: Other Issues » Where to report a serious tcsh globbing bug? » 2022-09-19 09:21:29

This might help:

> ls
21  22	23  a1	a2  a3	b1  b2	b3  c1	c2  c3	d1  d2	d3
> echo [a-d]*
a1 a2 a3 b1 b2 b3 c1 c2 c3 d1 d2 d3
> echo [a-d]?
a1 a2 a3 b1 b2 b3 c1 c2 c3 d1 d2 d3
> $0 --version
tcsh 6.24.01 (Astron) 2022-05-12 (x86_64-unknown-linux) options wide,nls,dl,al,kan,sm,rh,color,filec
>

So it's either fixed upstream already or you have something else going on.

#588 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2022-09-17 23:28:41

I've taken the easiest option and just edited the postinst & prerm scripts to refer to /usr/bin/loksh. I'll consider moving the binary to /bin/ (where hier(7) says it should be) at a later date.

Version 7.1-2 of loksh is building now and should be available soon. I've tested installation to non-usrmerged systems so it should all work.

#589 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2022-09-17 09:19:05

@rbit: apologies for the issue, all my tests were conducted on boxen with usrmerge, which link /usr/bin/loksh to /bin/loksh automatically and so don't suffer this error.

I'll have to decide how best to fix it but I should have it working again very soon. The oksh package installs to /bin/oksh and so will work without usrmerge.

Sorry for the trouble.

@golinux: I was considering it but my mobility issues prevent me from queuing that long but are not serious enough to consider entry to the disabled line. I've had the live stream of Westminster Hall running in the background though, it is oddly compelling.

#590 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2022-09-16 23:47:43

Oops, thanks for reporting. I'll have to fix it tomorrow. Bear with me.

#591 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Grub Configuration Query » 2022-09-16 05:54:27

For your grub rescue> issue see https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5245.

Debian made the unfortunate decision to update the GRUB version for the 11.5 point release but this breaks some UEFI firmware implementations: https://archlinux.org/news/grub-bootloa … ibilities/

#592 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Grub Configuration Query » 2022-09-14 05:54:03

The configuration can be re-run with

dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 # or grub-pc for non-UEFI systems

That will use a terminal interface by default, to get it to use a GUI instead pass the appropriate environmental variable, like this:

DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64

The "gnome" frontend is GTK-based. Other versions include "kde" (Qt-based), "web" (browser-based) and my personal favourite "editor" (with ed ofc). See https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/de … #Frontends for more on this.

To use the "gnome" interface by default run

DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome dpkg-reconfigure debconf

And select the desired front end.

With the default terminal interface use <tab> & <space> to switch between options and select/deselect them, respectively.

#593 Re: News & Announcements » PeppermintOS now Debian base & soon Devuan based » 2022-09-13 15:40:32

KsWoodsMan wrote:

Have your users not reported any problems from that repository?

Zero, none.

That's good but absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence.

It's funny but GlennW has just posted this in another thread:

GlennW wrote:

you may need to remove any packages from "deb-multimedia" repository

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=37542#p37542

Which might be problematic:

https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=615697

And I would also quote Steve Pusser (the head packager over at MX Linux) on this:

stevepusser wrote:

It might be safe to use for some packages that aren't in Debian, such as Avidemux. But you have to be quite careful that anything you install from there does not want to upgrade other libraries that are in Debian--there be dragons there. That's where the cautious will do simulated installs first, and look at what will happen closely.

https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php … 43#p709943

KsWoodsMan wrote:

And this thread isn't about deb-multimedia.com .

Well it is about PeppermintOS and PeppermintOS has the deb-multimedia repositories added (with no pinning) in their default release. So I think we are very much on topic here.

KsWoodsMan wrote:

Remember RedHat "RPM Hell"  from RH 5.x and RH 6.x or the RH 7.x releases ?

Gracious me, no. I only started using GNU/Linux about 8 years ago. I'm a n00b :-)

KsWoodsMan wrote:

Things happen, something or somethings got past the Dev or their team taking care of an area.
Kind of like ... on September 3, at 24:00 hours. I recognized it was going to happen.
I'm as much at fault as anyone else, for not sending a message so the team member covering that was prompted of the expiration.

If you want to flex on these boards it might be best not to mention you used to work for Red Hat. Their name is mud here. I like them though :-)

KsWoodsMan wrote:

you aren't hi-jacking this thread and neither am I

Yes, I agree, we are on topic here.

KsWoodsMan wrote:

That is a discussion best suited for a new post

No, that's fine. I have no interest in a thread about your employment history. Perhaps others will though so feel free to go ahead. You certainly seem impressed with how you've done.

KsWoodsMan wrote:

EDIT: and what's the deal with Peppermint anyway? What's the USP? Who are the target audience?

Again , Let's not hi-jack this thread to cover information that's readily and easily available by doing a "web look-up".
I would say "Google is your 'friend' for this" , though they really aren't. Use DuckDuckGo instead.

I did look at your website and load up the live ISO image but I couldn't really find much beyond extra themes so I thought I would ask you while you were here.

I read https://peppermintos.com/about/ but all that nauseating wank about "DevOps" made my toes curl so much I had to take my slippers off. Is that all an in-joke or are you actually serious about that? I certainly couldn't find anything concrete beyond buzzwords and the usual "minimalistic desktop" bs.

KsWoodsMan wrote:

It looks like De{bi,vu}an with a facelift to me. Is that unfair?

It's an opinion. The same can be said for a lot of distros, built on any base.

Yeah, tell me about it... roll

KsWoodsMan wrote:

Or the CI/CD pipeline and custom applications.

CI/CD is indeed lovely. I was very pleased when I managed to persuade GitHub's Travis CI/CD to build new ISO images for me and upload them to the "Releases" page with full logging and no manual intervention. Saved me loads of time.

But it doesn't really benefit the users directly, does it? I didn't even bother telling my users.

And which applications, exactly? The default install doesn't have any Peppermint repositories or packages with all of the custom configuration applied via live build. And btw the live build documentation does recommend installing custom configuration as packages, which I found to be a more useful approach.

I found the package installer thingy ("Install a Web Browser" in the Welcome window) but that runs a Python GUI as root. And you have a polkit rule that allows all Python GUIs to run as root. That's messed up. Why not run a GUI under the normal user to collect the information and pass that to a script running as root? You could even feed stdout & stderr back to the (non-root) GUI.

Oh, and the Release Notes link in the Welcome window is broken:

20220913-07h14m34s-grim.png

HTH

#594 Re: News & Announcements » PeppermintOS now Debian base & soon Devuan based » 2022-09-12 16:26:01

KsWoodsMan wrote:

The Nightly, Testing, Unstable and Skinny are Developer builds.
They in no way reflect which area of Devuan these are built from.

Interesting, thanks for the clarification.

But deb-multimedia.com? Really?

We have had so many threads over at forums.debian.net featuring systems broken by that repository that  it has accrued somewhat of a reputation. Infamous is the word, I think.

Have your users not reported any problems from that repository?

EDIT: and what's the deal with Peppermint anyway? What's the USP? Who are the target audience?

It looks like De{bi,vu}an with a facelift to me. Is that unfair?

#595 Re: Other Issues » GRUB update lands at 'grub rescue>' prompt » 2022-09-11 15:04:56

prizm02 wrote:

The live usb has Failsafe but no Rescue Boot Option.

Then use arch-chroot from the live environment, as I suggested in my first post.

Are you even reading replies?

Marjorie wrote:

is this a general problem with the latest upgrade of grub?

Yes. Details on the Arch News item to which I linked. It's been all over the Arch forums recently.

Debian's 11.5 point release has an upgraded GRUB version, which is highly unusual. I'm not sure if that also has the problem.

I don't use GRUB myself...

#596 Re: Other Issues » GRUB update lands at 'grub rescue>' prompt » 2022-09-11 10:55:17

prizm02 wrote:

Is Recovery mode the same as Rescue mode .

No.

I provided the link for a reason. Please read it.

#597 Re: Other Issues » GRUB update lands at 'grub rescue>' prompt » 2022-09-11 09:07:48

Hold on, I missed this:

prizm02 wrote:

I mounted boot partition to  remove grub-efi-amd64 and reinstall grub-pc

Why was grub-efi-amd64 installed?

#598 Re: Other Issues » GRUB update lands at 'grub rescue>' prompt » 2022-09-11 08:43:29

You need to chroot into the system with the API filesystems mounted for that to work.

Either use Rescue Mode to obtain a shell in the installed system or run these commands from the live environment:

apt update
apt install arch-install-scripts
mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
mount /dev/sdXZ /mnt/boot
arch-chroot /mnt

Replace X, Y & Z with the drive letter and partition numbers for the root (/) and /boot partitions, respectively.

From a shell in the installed system run these commands to fix things:

dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

I presume you're running testing/unstable? You really should mention the version in the OP.

EDIT: and please replace the thread title with something useful (eg, "GRUB update lands at 'grub rescue>' prompt"). This is actually a common problem at the moment:

https://archlinux.org/news/grub-bootloa … ibilities/

If you had bothered to search before posting you would probably have found the solution more quickly.

#599 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Realtek USB wifi stick RTL8188FTV » 2022-09-10 15:46:50

Check dmesg in Ubuntu to see what it's doing. My guess would usually be firmware but there chimaera package already has the latest rtlwifi verisons.

#600 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Installing openmediavault on top of devuan » 2022-09-10 09:06:17

Haven't tried it but their colllectd .deb has a sysvinit script as well as a systemd unit file so it looks promising.

Why don't you experiment in a disposable VM and report back?

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