Thank you for "getting it" rolfie!

Just earlier today on IRC, this from LeePen clarifying the path for Devuan users to take:

Caveat is that it has to be done in a certain order and there may currently be bugs/inconsistencies during the transition. While many have had no issue doing so, I am staying in the safe harbor of Chimaera or Daedalus until the kinks get worked out and the dust settles . . .

PS @brocashelm . . . FWIW . . . I get no asterisk using the the quote button on this forum.

Touche! 

Seems I hit a nerve. FWIW . . . the rage quit and deletion was completely unnecessary and deprives the forum of your thoughts which had value historically if not practically. I hope that you will reinstate it. Problem is that unless there is coordinated ACTION, yes in code, your words merely serve as a postmortem.

Perhaps someone should interact with the folks still putting out the X11 advisories that Altoid has been posting to see what they are planning for X11's future. Their thoughts could be very useful to gauge where things are going at the source . . .

That happened some weeks ago and yours is the first post mentioning it afaicr. Everyone has adapted quite nicely and the posts have been much easier to follow without all the unnecessary clutter of repetition. There is a quote button available in the line at the top of the reply and quick reply functions. 

I agree that OpenMATE is an admirable project but what does a desktop fork have to do with the demise of X11? Please 'splain!

IIUC usrmerge needs to be installed BEFORE moving to Excalibur or Ceres to avoid breakage. Will likely take some doing to unravel . . .

Oh is that all! So easy to say. So useless to say. Show us the fork YOU are going to initiate and we will take your babblings seriously. Hot air does nothing but add to our collective climate woes. 

I have never had a problem using apulse with an .asoundrc file.

I am an merely an observer . . . neither an optimist nor a pessimist.

Devuan is an extraordinary haven of folks with those qualities but sadly too few actually roll up their sleeves and DO something for whatever reason(s).

@quickfur . . . X11 like usrmerge is outside the scope of Devuan's mission . . . unless you perhaps want to be that dev that swoops in and saves the day . . .   

@quickfur . . . This is a good lead in to one of Dyne's projects that might interest you and others on this forum. They were on this years ago!

Dowse :: local area network rabdomancy

"Dowse is a RPi application that functions as a transparent proxy for home network privacy and visualizes network traffic real-time."

https://archive.org/details/github.com- … 9_14-06-19

My personal solutions are no mobile devices, no wifi, no microwave, OTA TV (and very little of it), yada yada . . .

I requested:

Probably not a good idea to post parts of your email openly on this forum.

@Mike . . . Have you tried to post? First posts are moderated on all new accounts but there is nothing currently waiting in the queue. Maybe post a test email with the question you want to ask or if you don't have one atm say something like  "This is a test from Mike. Please delete". Then I can see if it arrives . . .

There was no response because it is on dyne's infrastructure and I have no idea where it might have landed . . .